Let them eat cake!

[vacuum]

I currently tithe 10%, I'm happy to continue doing that - it's not even like you really need money for much other than the gyrocopter and new renown gear  - and cash is easy to get hold of in T3 (you get 1G for the quests, + 2-3G per scenario if you take part) -- not to mention that Rune Etched Axe + Power Engravings >> your uber T3 armour in Tor Anroc.

[Axenar]

I reckon taxes are the way to go at a lowish rate? Say 5% or 10%. That way everyone is contributing a bit and most folks wont even notice the difference. Then those that are more heavily involved in stuff that uses guild money can if they wish setup a tithe. Or if your just feeling super flush. Is there a way to make the odd one off donation too?

Bearing in mind that donating nice gear for others to use and all the karma involved in a bit of the old "pay it forward" routine as well always takes place so overall the guild as a community should always be benefiting from working together regardless of how things are done.

[Torgal]

Actually in terms of donating gear and whatnot, I've got a few greens sat around my inv that'd probably just get disenchanted (haha) or vendored. What can I do in terms of giving them to the gbank?

Voted taxes, to keep this moderately on topic. imo 15% would be a fair number, though 10% would work also.

[Peter]

Actually in terms of donating gear and whatnot, I've got a few greens sat around my inv that'd probably just get disenchanted (haha) or vendored. What can I do in terms of giving them to the gbank?

An easy thing to do - if we all got into the habit, that is - is to put good greens/blues we don't expect to make a killing on but that it looks like somebody might find useful on the AH as a "guild only" auction at a low price. It is not as elegant as stuffing things in the guild bank and withdrawing and it may be too painful in practice (what is the longest time limit on auctions?) but if it works out, it would be an easy way to transfer around "gear that might be useful to somebody in the guild but I don't know who" to said "who".

The only major objection to just stuffing things in the guild bank I have is based on WoW - when we tried that, the guild bank had a tendency to fill up with junk; sure, many things were distributed to somebody else (success!) but many things just sort of stacked up well past their point of likely usefulness to anybody.


Anyhow, regarding taxation - TAX THEM TILL THEY BLEED!  Well, perhaps that's going a bit too far.

Set a moderate tax rate of, say, 25%, and allow brownnosers and those with way too much time on their hands to set their tiher greater than 0. From a practical perspective, until the game gets real money sinks implemented, increasing the time for each member to gain whatever amount of money he needs for something by a third is not significantly going to affect game play while it does allow the guild to start building up a real hoard in case it ever wants to pursue one of the more expensive guild activity options later on (while most of the expenses at that stage are for upkeep and nobody should go there unless they can fund it in the long run, having a headstart will not hurt)

[Mangala]

Possible guild money outlay:

Keep Upkeep (6g per hour if we ever claim a keep from R14 onwards);
Standards (2g per standard if lost, so far I think the bearers are taking this cost themselves, would like to reimburse, even if it is a trivial amount)
Bounty's - Yet to post on this, I'll elaborate more when I finish drafting my idea

Not sure what else really - probably more in future as Mythic expands the guild system further.

As for Items to the bank - the only tab we have right now gets full very very fast, I do try and spam about it in chat, but not sure people are aware they can just rock up and take items as and when they feel like it. Sticking them for negligible prices on the AH for Guildies only could be a good idea really   (I too remember bank mules and such in wow )

Personal donations: rock up to the bank and use the deposit money section in the Guild vault tab at the 1st Altdorf

[Mangala]

What do we say to a raise from 3% to 5% - the 3 percent has raised about 17G since I trialed it on wednesday.

Just looking ahead at claiming keeps and associated costs really, nothing much else to use the cash on at this stage really.

[vacuum]

Well, fwiw I've lost 3 standards already (one to the enemy, one from logging out, and one from being careless ...). We will go through these things like water (I'm happy to fund it out of my own wallet, it's not like it's particularly real money :-))

That said, I also note that a lot of other guilds seem to have a 15% tax rate ... simply to build coffers. Not sure we want to go there, but just throwing it out there.

[Jarkko]

5% now sounds ok to me

[Garros]

I don't have a problem with taxes, just throwing an idea out here - in case we do claim keeps, which is silly expensive, we could declare a state of war and set taxes to something ridiculous for upkeep costs. Obviously this isn't something that can be done unless people agree with it, but since money is relatively easy to make for a player, it could help to have a keep claimed for at least some time.

[Napalmz]

5% seems fine to me

Nap.

[Axenar]

Am I right in thinking the tax only comes from the loot money? As I only notice me being taxed then but never when I sell anything in which case I have no issues with the tax being higher as I never really notice what money is coming in from looting corpses anyway.

But yeah 5% seems fine, I'd be OK even at 10%. But not keen above that asI feel beyond 10% should be folks doing tithes and one off donations when thier flush.

Nice thing about cash in the game though is there plenty off it as I felt happy enough to buy 2 siege engines last night just for the fun of trying them out.

[Macrune]

Crank it up to 10% even that amount isnt going to be noticable. After all its not as if cash is hard to come by in this game.

[Warcold]

I vote 10% also.
If I notice I have too much money even then, I'll crank my tithe up.

[Goatboy]

I set mine to 10% on my Order main... and now I can't find where to change it anymore. >_>

[Gunnarr]

I set mine to 10% on my Order main... and now I can't find where to change it anymore. >_>

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