Let them eat cake!

[Mangala]

Well, it seems Regiments can tax their members, in addition to allowing them to tithe a portion of all monies they make from kills (pvp and pve) to the guild coffers. Given that there are things like Standards, Halls?, bank space and so on to pay for, what would you guys look at?

Given prior experience from Wow and Lotro* a small cadre of people contributed and the majority benefited, and I see taxation (say 0% until we have all hit Tier 2 or something then maybe a level of 5%) as a way to ensure that all contribute as all will benefit. Tithes, I presume are set by the member themselves, and will be something I'll stay away from demanding are done, although will be setting my personal tithe to 5% of all titheable income.

So what say you?



*And EVE of course, but taxes there work alot differently - more like reallife

[Keggi]

dont mind either way but voted taxes just so everybody contributes and some dont slip through the net.

as the saying goes

there's only two things certain in this life death and taxes.

[Goatboy]

So tax is 'obiligatory' when used. Tithes are donations?

Seeing the small scale of HoJ in WAR at the moment, if everyone agrees, I'd say yes to taxes.

All I ask is that potential guild tabards or standards are chosen in good contemplation.

[Caradir]

id say 5 -10 % tax as id prob tithe the same again anyways.

see how it goes and decide whats needed, no point building up a huge war fund if its not needed

[Mangala]

Voting in my guild?

I suppose I can compromise

Let you vote on Regiment colors and such, while I secretly decide the Standards logos etc!

[Goatboy]

Nooooooooooooo!

We must fight under the pink cupcake banner damn it! u_u

If the guild gets too rich (yeah, how will that happen with beo white washing all the money into his offshore account in Ulthuan?) our great leader could always send us some gifts or payday bonuses!

[Kurtt]

I vote taxes.

And I want a tabard with two lions on it dammit!

[Mangala]

I vote taxes.

And I want a tabard with two lions on it dammit!

Bluey-green-ish or White?

[Caradir]

if its white with lions on it i wouldnt be able to wear it my country would disown me

[Kurtt]

I vote taxes.

And I want a tabard with two lions on it dammit!

Bluey-green-ish or White?

I want to say white, but Bluey-green is ooooold school!!!

[Mangala]

So we are rank 3.

You can set your own Tithe via the Guild/Regiment window.

I have not yet implemented a tax rate, and will not until we are greater in numbers.

[Mangala]

Just a bump, as we have had a large influx recently and no doubt all members wish to set up a tithe or get involved in a discussion (doesnt mean I'll listen!) on this

[Jarkko]

I'd vote for taxes. Just keep it low for the time being (1% maybe), as the expenditures surely can't be that high yet. I mean, it is *nice* to use a standard, but it is not *required* yet by any means, and it is very likely the standards will be used in situations where most of the guild-members are not present (or even aware that a standard is going to be used ).

When we have a warband at rank 40, then the real expenditures start, and I think it would be good to rise the taxes to 5% or what ever is needed, as then we really need the guild to have money available.

[Macrune]

Under ideal conditions i'd say tithe rather than tax as that way those paying dont feel like they have no choice (a falsehood maybe but nevertheless you know where im coming from)
The only problem with that is knowing who's paying and who isnt. Beo i take it theres no way you can tell who's paying or not? Being the Head Honcho that you are im not sure if you'd have access to parts of the guild that can tell you that.
If you don't then we have no choice really itll have to be tax to ensure everyone pays thier bit.
Might I suggest that before the tax it implemented its put up in the guild tab in full CAPS for a week or so first just so that no-one can say they werent aware. And also that from now on whenever anyone invites someone to the guild they ensure they tell them first that we will soon be implementing a guild tax of btwn 5 - 10 %.  That way no-one can say they werent warned.

(p.s. - ive set my tithe at 10% and to be honest i dont even notice the difference in income so i'd suggest that as the tax rate)

[Torgal]

There will always be lazy and/or selfish people. Taxes all the way, as I reckon voluntary tithes would simply be ignored by some/many and why should the rest of us have to pick up their slack? We're all part of the guild, and each member should pull a little weight imo.

Money is so easy to get even at relatively low levels, so why should anyone complain that a little of that's going into the guild pot?

My only caveat to note is that I haven't a clue what guild money would be spent on, if it's frivolous shit then I guess there's no need for any of this, but I would assume there are legitimate cash sinks in the game. It's not like we're going to need to fund flasks and repair bills is it? O_O