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Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« on: December 07, 2008, 12:10:11 AM »
I'll expand on this post when I can actually see further than my keyboard, but Agony Unleashed offer regular courses in various aspects of pvp.

They have a facility where a corp can pay an amount and then its members just sign up for the classes that interest them, after meeting the prereq's for said course (certain skills trained or ships able to pilot etc), I'd be willing to fund the corp account with Agony should anyone be interested in this. (again I'll flesh this out when its more than a random drunk idea wandering through my mind).

I think this may be easier than doing our own spot of lowsec gate camping or wardeccing of some locals in our area - although easier option still is to all sit in frigates and shoot/tackle/etc etc etc each other that way as corpies can do that without police interference.
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2008, 05:46:33 AM »
I am interested for sure in anything PvP related :)  PvP will be something I'll stumble on anyway at some point, and if there is something I can do to prepare myself for that, then yes I am in :)

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2008, 08:42:05 AM »
Same!
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2008, 11:24:43 AM »
Sounds fun (must set up a jump clone first)

my skill set is more around the ewar /tackling skills so id be in a supporting role rather than a pew pew role, plus i can shield boost ;)
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2008, 11:34:57 AM »
Having had a quick look at their courses ,they seem to do a decent line in 'introduce you to the game, and the thrill of eve PVP'.
I might even spec up a starter character with the minimums and join you guys for kicks. What are the minimums?

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2008, 12:18:40 PM »
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   1. Enrolment
      Make sure have correctly enrolled in the class, that you know when it is, and that your payment has been made (either by yourself, or through a corporate account on your behalf).

   2. Connect to the "AU_PVP_UNIVERSITY" channel
      Within your EVE client go to 'channels and mailing lists' and add "AU_PVP_UNIVERSITY" - you'll need to be on this channel during the class, and it can be very helpful when making arrangements or asking for help with things.

   3. Connect to the ventrilo server
      Download the Voice Communications in PVP article and follow the instructions there on connecting to our Ventrilo server. This gives you even more options when it comes to asking us for help. NOTE: If you don't have a microphone, you still need to connect to Ventrilo so you can listen to the class. There is no point in attending if you can't hear the instructor!

   4. Check your skills
      The skills you need to have before the class starts are listed in the enrolment thread for that class. At the time of this document they are:
          * Propulsion Jamming 1+
          * Afterburner 1+
          * Caldari, Amarr, Gallente or Minmatar Frigate 1+
          * Sensor Linking 1+
          * Warp Drive Operation 3+ (yes, we really mean it - you may be asked to warp 200AU, and if you don't have this skill it can delay the movement of the fleet)
          * Target Painting 1+
          * Weapon Disruption 1+
          * Electronic Warfare 1+


   5. (Optional) Prepare your jump clone
      You're going to want a jump clone at Nonni V - Lai Dai Corporation (or at the class location if it is not in Nonni) in time for the start of the class. The pod survival rate in our Basic classes is around 95% - most people don't lose any ships, and most people who lose their ship don't lose their pod. But losing all your implants is something we'd prefer you didn't risk. If you are unable to secure jumpclones without Agony's help, we will attempt to get you to a station in 0.0 where you can set up a jump clone. To do this, you will need Infomorph Psychology I and a shuttle. Ask on the au_pvp_university channel and we can arrange an armed escort for you.

   6. Set your autopilot for Nonni
      Nonni is a reasonably major manufacturing center, and is definitely the best place to buy your frigates so that you won't have to haul them. Other trade hubs in the area are Sobaseki (4 jumps from Nonni) and Jita (5 jumps from Nonni). Torrinos (8 jumps from Nonni) tends to be well-stocked, but it also tends to be expensive.

      Note: Not all classes are held in Nonni!

   7. Start reading the rest of the articles, browse the PVP-Basic forum
      The PVP-Basic articles can be found here. Here's the PVP-Basic forum.

   8. Buy your frigates
      Choose one type of frigate that you think you'll enjoy for the duration of the class. Having your class frigates in different types seems like a really good idea in theory, but in practice it tends to be frustrating and annoying. Don't choose a frigate with a mining laser bonus. Don't choose a frigate with an astrometrics bonus. Don't choose an assault frigate, interceptor, or stealth frigate - they require different techniques to fly than a tech 1 frigate, and we won't be covering those techniques in this class. We usually don't use target painters in the BASIC class, so don't choose a Vigil.

      Once you've chosen a type of frigate, buy at least two of them, three if you can afford it. Five if you're planning on making a regular habit of travelling into 0.0 or lowsec with the classes.

   9. Buy afterburners
      Each of your frigates is going to need an afterburner. For certain frigates, this doesn't give optimal combat performance, but it's the right choice for most frigates. There are a number of training exercises where the instructor will say "turn on your afterburner" - not having one means you miss out on some of the educational value. Don't buy or fit microwarp drives, when we say 'afterburner' we mean 'afterburner'. If you feel like fitting named, t2 or faction afterburners, then go for it. Just remember that in 0.0, the real question is not 'if' you lose your ship, but 'when'.

  10. Buy midslot and lowslot items
      Have a look at the recommended modules for BASIC and try to collect the full set. If you've chosen a frigate that gets a bonus to ewar modules (Crucifier, Griffin, or Maulus) make sure you have all the modules from the collection that you get a bonus to using. (Tracking disruptors, ECM varieties, or sensor damps, respectively.) As with the afterburners, feel free to get expensive kit if you can afford to lose it.

  11. Buy highslot items
      The midslot items are vitally important to a hydra fleet, so you buy those and make sure you can fit them before you look at fitting weapons. Be aware that different midslot items require different amounts of CPU - don't be afraid to use lighter-caliber guns to make sure you can equip your ewar. (If you're loaded with cash, consider buying a mixture of gun calibers so that you can maximise your punch once the ewar is finalized during the class. Similarly, named modules can help, if you can afford to lose them.)

  12. Buy ammunition
      400 rounds per weapon should see you through nicely. If possible, bring an ammunition type that gives you an optimal range around 9km, and as an ammunition type that gives an optimal range roughly equal to your frigate's fastest circular orbit.

  13. Gather everything at the class location
      Careful here - there's more than one Lai Dai station in Nonni. Most classes are in Nonni but not all! So check. Also, some classes are held on the test server. If your class is based on the test server it will plainly say so in the booking thread.

  14. Fit out your frigates and insure them
      Set up your frigates with identical fittings in every slot and get the platinum insurance on each. During the class, you're reasonably likely to be asked to change your fittings around, but you may as well make certain that there's at least one configuration that works.

  15. Set your medical clone to the class location
      In the unfortunate event that you do get podded, waking up 50 jumps away from the class would ruin your evening.

  16. (Optional) Finalize your jumpclone arrangements
      You're going to want the clone with all your implants to be in some other station, so you can use an implantless clone for class.

  17. Configure your overview and your graphics settings
      Follow the configuration instructions that are a part of the BASIC course material. Yes, you really do need to turn off your sound and effects, and you really do need to set up your overview so that you can't see anything beyond the essentials. If you don't do this and you're lucky, your overview will be cluttered and you might cause a friendly fire incident. If you're unlucky, your client will crash when you jump into a system full of hostiles.


Congratulations, you're ready to attend BASIC!

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« Last Edit: December 07, 2008, 12:25:56 PM by Caradir »
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2008, 01:07:11 PM »
This look very cool =)

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2008, 04:26:14 PM »
i would like this at some point, will need to learn some skills first though
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2008, 05:04:38 PM »
Interest seems great, indeed. I'll setup the corporate account with AU this evening.  Then we can start watching out for their classes, skilling for them etc and getting them done. They do a huge number of them and have recently starting offering courses for budding FC's too :)
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2008, 06:13:25 PM »
Interest seems great, indeed. I'll setup the corporate account with AU this evening.  Then we can start watching out for their classes, skilling for them etc and getting them done. They do a huge number of them and have recently starting offering courses for budding FC's too :)

I'd be interested in the higher-end and FC courses. Let me know when we get there as a corp.

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2008, 11:18:22 PM »
FC ain't in the abbreviations overview and my mind ain't flexible enough to figure it out myself. Please enlighten me...
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2008, 11:28:21 PM »
FC ain't in the abbreviations overview and my mind ain't flexible enough to figure it out myself. Please enlighten me...
I just had to ask the same question in chat this afternoon, it's Fleet Commander (say, raid leader)
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2008, 02:20:57 AM »
Do i has all the required skills? Check yes i do ;)

train me in PVP pew pew.
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2008, 03:04:22 PM »
Ok so im wet at the thought of learning Eve PVP so i played with a tackle frigate in EFT



Thoughts please, i need to train drone skills to use the Acolyte hence the red but everything else is with my current skills.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2008, 04:53:06 PM by Beosvir »
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take away from them the power to create money and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money." Josiah Stamp (Governor Bank of England 1928-41)

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2008, 03:09:05 PM »