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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2010, 01:37:08 PM »
you been seeing those kills your towers are getting :) oh wait one was YOUR cyno alt :D :D :D
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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2010, 01:39:23 PM »
you been seeing those kills your towers are getting :) oh wait one was YOUR cyno alt :D :D :D

Yes :P for some reason personal +10 standings with the corp doesn't count so I had to put the cynoalt in corp :( well now it is a cyno-gunner alt so doesn't matter but.

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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2010, 01:49:48 PM »
you been seeing those kills your towers are getting :) oh wait one was YOUR cyno alt :D :D :D

Yes :P for some reason personal +10 standings with the corp doesn't count so I had to put the cynoalt in corp :( well now it is a cyno-gunner alt so doesn't matter but.

Because alliance standings supercede corp standings.
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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2010, 10:00:08 AM »
I've done a optimization to determine the optimal reactions we need to reach 3bn isk per month profit (while buying all goo).

The perfect one is 11 towers, the one I prefer has 12 (it has one carbionide setup as well).
The setup is 1 ferrogel and 2 nanotransistor (each with 2 complex reactions and the supporting simple ones).
At current prices that would yield 3.2bn isk (and require some 8.4bn isk/month in goo :P)

So thats our goal :P

edit: could have to change that with regards to fuel as I havn't updated that part of the sheet with the new prices so might be a bit less than 3.2 i suppose)

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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2010, 07:07:32 AM »
So last week of me needing aid with this :)

I emptied the silo at 6 evetime on sunday morning. So needs emptying sometime late tuesday (before 24 evetime)

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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2010, 09:51:00 AM »
Had an idea how to proceed towards my/our goal of 3bn/month profit on the towers :)

Basically, technetium is expensive.
Therefore the big thing is making money to buy tech while keeping enough profit to fund pew pew.

So the basic outline is:
1. Setup a large gal tower with 1 complex+simple reaction.
2. Buy ONE! week of tech (about 670m isk  :( )
3. React it all to the complex (fullerides or something like that)
4. after one week sell one weeks worth of complex stuff and keep running without the simple reaction (one week of simple reaction will yield results for 2 weeks complex)
5. profit??

Well anyways, the gal tower will produce cash to expand tech supply slowly but surely, it will also be possible to dedicate that to the expansion while the other towers churn out a steady supply of isk for immidiate use :)

It is a bit more work, but not significantly so really, biggest thing is hauling 4 times a month to jita with goo rather than once. Still have to check in on the towers to move the complex out ever 5 days or so iirc.

The biggest advantage is that we need a lot lower startup compared to setting up the complete chain including 1 month of tech for it. All in all I estimate the startup cost will be about 1.5bn.

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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2010, 10:11:53 AM »
Had an idea for the future when/if we have a significant amount of poses...

Adopt a POS :)

Basically the idea is to spread out the effort among people, I estimate that one person can handle at most 6 poses without going insane. So to make it possible to run a large amount of poses we need more people willing to step up.

So the idea is:
You "adopt" a POS, meaning you are responsible to fuel it and keep the reaction running. Hauling fuel to a pos can, depending on where it is, be organized by the corp as a whole. For example if we have a heap of poses in a single 0.0 system we can always organize a time when we jump in fuel for all of them, same if they are in a "near" low-sec system where we can have a freighter convoy for the job :)

As a reward for the effort the person would get:
A comemorative plaque (well name the pos :P)
A montly isk reward (10m?)

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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2010, 10:33:08 AM »
I know 2 guys that run 50 posses between them and its a couple of hours work each per week (jf+rorq each mind you).

Could be a good idea, but would require more people than we have and trusted people at that, and when we do start recruiting trust is going to take YEARS (and not dog years either) for people to earn ;)

As giving person access to one tower, gives them access to all :(
« Last Edit: July 06, 2010, 10:35:11 AM by Mangala »
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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2010, 11:20:19 AM »
I know 2 guys that run 50 posses between them and its a couple of hours work each per week (jf+rorq each mind you).

Could be a good idea, but would require more people than we have and trusted people at that, and when we do start recruiting trust is going to take YEARS (and not dog years either) for people to earn ;)

As giving person access to one tower, gives them access to all :(


True.
Well was a thought :)

Well people can get a comemorative plaque anyway (my imagination with names might dry up :P) and I guess we will see how many poses we get up in the end :)

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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2010, 10:12:05 PM »
Tuesday night empty taken care of :)
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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #55 on: July 09, 2010, 10:56:27 AM »
And for friday :)
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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #56 on: July 09, 2010, 11:23:32 AM »
Thanks :)

I'll update everything when i get home tonight, but I'll probably switch back to carbonides making it a once per week thing to empty.

(and yes I should be working but I made a mistake the ´puter takes ages to fix :P )

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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2010, 08:25:17 AM »
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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2010, 07:13:28 AM »
ARGH!"!!!
F5 tower offline again :( meh good thing i'm ill today so i can get it online again.

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Re: Poses, reactions and future industrial stuff
« Reply #59 on: December 09, 2010, 08:43:52 AM »
I just had to fuel the Anttiri tower too.

Think our towers are turning into women ;)
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