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Bimenen tower thread
« on: December 15, 2009, 07:12:08 AM »
Tower up and running, apart from some guns which don't have crystals yet.
Fueled for about 20 days, silos need emptying in about 7.

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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 08:24:21 AM »
what? what? what??
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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 08:30:21 AM »
what? what? what??

basically, hrod is gonna make us richer ;)
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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 09:30:51 AM »
what? what? what??

basically, hrod is gonna make us richer ;)

Less poor at least :)
At a glance the REALLY big profits is in t2 component production. Did a quick calculation at producing ion-thrusters (which use the crystallince carbonide from the reaction as a input).
Production time is 2min (1.5 with a pos) and uses 13 units (at me0) of cryst-carb (and some other crap which is more expensive hehe it is plausible to produce one of them in the same way as cryst-carb though in the same system).
Anyway, that production to use up as large a portion as possible would have to make 769 units/h.
Each array can build 400 units/h.
Each thruster gives a profit of about 10330isk so about 5.7bn isk/month in profit (before pos costs)


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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 11:27:52 AM »
ramming more moons ;)
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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 09:28:01 PM »
Hrod - cant recall if you ever setup on the maadimanage site, but you can keep an eye on the tower fuel there:

http://maadim.handsofjustice.co.uk/maadimanage/?module=starbases

If you did :)

(I removed the other pos site as it got broke due to ccp changes and couldnt do shit with it :S)
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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 08:14:20 PM »
Hrod - cant recall if you ever setup on the maadimanage site, but you can keep an eye on the tower fuel there:

http://maadim.handsofjustice.co.uk/maadimanage/?module=starbases

If you did :)

(I removed the other pos site as it got broke due to ccp changes and couldnt do shit with it :S)

Hey, thats pretty spiffy.  :)
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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 08:33:50 PM »
Is isnt it.

Its not bang up to date - im hoping to get that done before I go away in January, but it does what it does nicely.
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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2009, 09:00:25 AM »
First harvest done last night :)
The value is about 220m or so, stuff is in kasrasi for now before I bring it to market in Jita.

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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2009, 01:29:27 PM »
First harvest done last night :)
The value is about 220m or so, stuff is in kasrasi for now before I bring it to market in Jita.


In a week?

Jesus thats mental!
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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2009, 02:57:30 PM »
First harvest done last night :)
The value is about 220m or so, stuff is in kasrasi for now before I bring it to market in Jita.


In a week?

Jesus thats mental!

Yep, thats gross not net though :) no fuel costs or such deducted but should be about 190m/week at current prices after fuel.
The reaction produces 10000 crystalline carbonide and 100 crystallite alloy per hour :)

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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2009, 03:19:14 PM »
with that income though should cover any costs you guys have these days id guess?
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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2009, 03:27:54 PM »
with that income though should cover any costs you guys have these days id guess?

Yeah pretty much :)

I know hrod is after being able to help replace pvp losses and such for us - I think this is also a test platform to see whats possible then he can yell at our alliance - who will listen :D - about doing similar for the alliance as a unit (but not with our moon(s)).
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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2009, 03:36:39 PM »
Yup.
After the tower has payed for the investment I'll start a cap skills fund and start a ship replacement program, one way or the other.

I've started to scan a lot of moons in gw, found few of any value so far, in either case I might set up more moons to react stuff in in order to get us even more income.
Then I'll hand setups and how-to's to the alliance together with some moon positions.

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Re: Bimenen tower thread
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2009, 04:38:21 PM »
For example did some checks on other reactions. (not using in game figures but from dotlan so with all the precautions from that)
First I noticed that Vanadium Hafnite has increased in value significantly, it is now at 4.5k/unit (was half that a while back) Vanadium and Hafnium has increased as well, especially Vanadium which is now around 1.1k/unit.

So I checked the advanced reactions using it.
There are two, hypersynaptic fibers and phenolic composites.
Fibers are more valuable but they use around 1.8bn/month pure bought materials so out they are out of the question for that reason imo.
However from the less than thorough analysis I found that composites will in total (including intermediates) give about 830m/month in profit before towercosts. That would be placed at a hafnium moon in Bimenen. I do know of a vanadium moon in gw but it is far in, although in the place where I think it can be possible to run mining ops so could be a option to place a pos there but that is also a position I'd rather hand to the alliance to draw them into holding poses in more dangerous areas :)

Total investment would be similar to the first tower I set up (even have the spare tower which haven't been sold yet) so wouldn't impact the wallet that much. Going to check trends and such a bit more before I make any real investment into this. But with these two reactions we would have a approximate income of about 1.6bn/month at current prices after pos fuel.