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Legendary Weapons
« on: December 08, 2009, 12:58:12 PM »
Just thought I'd post up a quick question for those in the know (I'm looking at you Garry :P) about LI's.

Kurtt is still weilding the Legendary Halberd he got from thelvl 45 quest. Nothing I've looted or bartered for since has come close to the stats and legacies on my first Halberd. Same goes for my Captain's Emblem.

Is this normal? I'm currently 54, and I at least thought I'd see some shiny new upgrades by now.

Whats the deal? Were my starting LI's insanely good, or is everything else insanely bad? Plus, I'd really love to use a Greatsword, but all the ones I get are crap by comparison.

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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 01:13:30 PM »
one word .... luck

weapons though id have thought youd have upgraded after all a lvl 55 halberd/or 2hander sword (you do know that captain trainers now give us our +2% halberd damage passive)  no matter how crappy the legacies will have better dps than the lvl 50 one you got for doing the intro to legendaries q. The emblem isnt so needed to upgrade as the differences with level are not as noticable.

took me an age to get the ones i liked, was very lucky with my 1st age.If you like ill trade in my tablets as they are no use to me and ill post on what i think has possibilities ;)


remember just because it may not look great when first identified doesnt mean it cant/wont be.

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take away from them the power to create money and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money." Josiah Stamp (Governor Bank of England 1928-41)

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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 02:06:08 PM »
That'd be awesome cheers dude.

I have trained the +2% Halberd skill, but am planning in taking the +2% swords man trait.

Will try to trade in some more Dwarf tools for 55's and see what I get.

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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 02:36:36 PM »
Cheers for that dude.

I'm on my crappy lappy at the office, and its just booted me. Wasn't being ignorant :D

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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 02:47:50 PM »
Cheers for that dude.

I'm on my crappy lappy at the office, and its just booted me. Wasn't being ignorant :D


im used to you in the afternoons popping on and off without warning, so i dont take any offence ;)
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take away from them the power to create money and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money." Josiah Stamp (Governor Bank of England 1928-41)

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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 02:53:12 PM »
Cheers for that dude.

I'm on my crappy lappy at the office, and its just booted me. Wasn't being ignorant :D


im used to you in the afternoons popping on and off without warning, so i dont take any offence ;)

Normally its because I end up taking a call and logging off due to being AFK :D

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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2009, 12:15:46 PM »
I have spent about 1 gold on weapons for under level 60 which did cost less than 90 silver. Ie I've got a few, but won't get many more for a while as I am starting to actually run low on money (what with never getting any quests done as I have had to run back and forth the continent... argggghhhhh... and skirmishes don't actually provide money (the income from them cover the repairbills, but not much more). None of them had legacies even close to the dagger I got from the intro-to-Moria quest (the first reforging saw it get the Quick Knife devastation bonus prolonged, now at 47 seconds (ie 47 seconds after a devastate I get +20% positional damage and +10% critical damage, which is simply awesome; I seem to now run around most of the time with this buff, and *that* is awesome), base-DPS would be slightly higher (but I've spent most of my points on upping the DPS).

With the tools I have been much luckier. Saw somebody sell on AH for bid 100 silver (buyout 120 silver) tools for 57, they had been identified already and had legacies I like (huge incoming healing bonus, increased critical damage and extra pulse to Mischiveous Glee (the burg self heal). Will be a vast upgrade over the current tools, but I can live with these until 57.


Incidently, how does the regained exp (from a deconstructed item with exp-levels) with Heritage Rune work if the heritage rune would have enough exp to take the new item past level 10 (ie reforging)? Will the extra exp be lost, or is it applied anyway? If the exp from the Heritage Rune is lost, I guess the smart thing is to first level to 10 (won't take very long) and then apply the Rune, or?
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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2009, 01:01:25 PM »
Incidently, how does the regained exp (from a deconstructed item with exp-levels) with Heritage Rune work if the heritage rune would have enough exp to take the new item past level 10 (ie reforging)? Will the extra exp be lost, or is it applied anyway? If the exp from the Heritage Rune is lost, I guess the smart thing is to first level to 10 (won't take very long) and then apply the Rune, or?

if you get a rune say for 75000 and apply it to a new lvl 1 item what you would see is "reforge + 59500 XP" so after reforge it would then gain any levels it had xp for and even another reforge. When i got my 1st age halberd i deconstructed my 2nd age and got a 1250000 IXP rune which was an awesome start took it from lvl 1 to 40 straight out.
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take away from them the power to create money and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money." Josiah Stamp (Governor Bank of England 1928-41)

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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 06:05:01 AM »
if you get a rune say for 75000 and apply it to a new lvl 1 item what you would see is "reforge + 59500 XP" so after reforge it would then gain any levels it had xp for and even another reforge. When i got my 1st age halberd i deconstructed my 2nd age and got a 1250000 IXP rune which was an awesome start took it from lvl 1 to 40 straight out.
Had to try this yesterday (sadly didn't have much time to actually play (besides the game crashed when I was riding towards Mirobel, which surely was a sign I *really* need to head to bed :) ), but had a chance to play around with this). The Skirmish vendor who barters stuff for Legendaries has at sale these rune-thingies, IIRC about 275 or so skirmish points, which gives 60,000 item exp. I bartered for two of these, one for my weapon and one for my tools, and got both to above level 20. The system indeed automatically adds the remaining exp after the reforge, which is nice :)

Incidently, isn't the item exp-rune actually pretty cheap for what it does? Is there a catch I am missing? Of course, 60k exp is nice when in the range of levels around 20, but I guess it's peanuts when getting above level 30, am I right?


From the reforge I got to the tools increased Provoke, and I am happy; the tools are now actually pretty good (the tools still have three legacies I'd not ever (with these traits) spend points on, but they have now two good ones). I guess what Garry says above is true: "remember just because it may not look great when first identified doesnt mean it cant/wont be".

Not sure if the Provoke legacy boosts only the aggro of Provoke or if it also adds to damage (didn't actually check the tooltip yesterday ::) ), but I don't care, as I use Provoke a lot anyway. I have it traited, I feel it is very usable for its power cost (basically it is just an autoattack (but can open up the critical responses), but it's power cost is very low, and it does decent damage when hit from behind). I've found Provoke very usable even soloing when the other three "spammable" skills are on cooldown and the crit chain hasn't openened (as Provoke can open up the crit chain too), and in skirmishes it is very nice indeed to give aggro to the bannerguard (not to mention I use it in fellowships too, because if I don't open up with Provoke I seem to draw aggro even from  level 60+ captains ( ;) ) when I get a lucky chain of crits... "Woah, devastating hit, oh crit again, oh poo, I have aggro!").

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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 11:26:58 AM »
Incidently, isn't the item exp-rune actually pretty cheap for what it does? Is there a catch I am missing? Of course, 60k exp is nice when in the range of levels around 20, but I guess it's peanuts when getting above level 30, am I right?


aye first 20-30 levels are fast then it takes boatloads of IXP

Level     Total XP to Level     Increase from Previous
1    0    0
2    100    100
3    350    250
4    850    500
5    1,700    850
6    3,000    1,300
7    4,850    1,850
8    7,718    2,868
9    11,130    3,412
10    15,435    4,305
11    20,738    5,303
12    27,143    6,405
13    34,755    7,612
14    43,680    8,925
15    54,023    10,343
16    65,888    11,865
17    79,380    13,492
18    94,605    15,225
19    111,668    17,063
20    130,673    19,005
21    151,725    21,052
22    174,930    23,205
23    200,393    25,463
24    228,218    27,825
25    258,510    30,292
26    291,375    32,865
27    330,031    38,656
28    372,200    42,169
29    418,068    45,868
30    467,828    49,760
31    521,675    53,847
32    579,809    58,134
33    642,432    62,623
34    709,753    67,321
35    781,983    72,230
36    859,338    77,355
37    942,036    82,698
38    1,030,302    88,266
39    1,124,363    94,061
40    1,224,451    100,088
41    1,327,473    103,022
42    1,455,582    128,109
43    1,588,874    133,292
44    1,731,051    142,177
45    1,882,496    151,445
46    2,043,600    161,104
47    2,214,762    171,162
48    2,396,389    181,627
49    2,588,896    192,507
50    2,792,706    203,810
51    2,997,536    204,830
52    3,210,047    212,511
53    3,427,678    217,631
54    3,652,991    225,313
55    3,883,424    230,433
56    4,121,538    238,114
57    4,364,773    243,235
58    4,613,129    248,356
59    4,869,166    256,037
60    5,132,884    263,718
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take away from them the power to create money and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money." Josiah Stamp (Governor Bank of England 1928-41)

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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2011, 10:28:15 PM »
So, necro.

Say I find a sword or hammer etc that I can use on Beo.

I already have a sword with IXP, things slotted etc.

How would I go about switching IXP over/whatever and is there anyway to reclaim - even partially the legacies my current weapon has?

All the changes to the LI stuff since I first paid it attention are a but woosh, especially all the options the relic master (I think) offers... (like melding and stuff).
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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2011, 11:11:13 AM »
So, necro.

Say I find a sword or hammer etc that I can use on Beo.

I already have a sword with IXP, things slotted etc.

How would I go about switching IXP over/whatever and is there anyway to reclaim - even partially the legacies my current weapon has?

All the changes to the LI stuff since I first paid it attention are a but woosh, especially all the options the relic master (I think) offers... (like melding and stuff).

you can breakdown "old" legendaries, in fact thats part of the legendary grind.

best levels to do so are at 11,21,31,41,51,61

upon breakdown youll get an IXP rune and some settings, and maybe legendary fragments.
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take away from them the power to create money and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money." Josiah Stamp (Governor Bank of England 1928-41)

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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2011, 11:22:23 AM »
I can wait 4 levels then, hopefully i'll be out of this bloody cave by then.
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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2011, 11:33:10 AM »
it was Item level i was talking about you got that yeah?

you dont need to be level 61 :D :D
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Re: Legendary Weapons
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2011, 11:35:40 AM »
it was Item level i was talking about you got that yeah?

you dont need to be level 61 :D :D

oops  :'(
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