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The new PL renters agreement thread
« on: July 26, 2009, 10:40:04 AM »
Nothing big yet but found this post from Seth Rock regarding the people who intend to claim sov in 671.

https://pandemic-legion.com/forums/showpost.php?p=259843&postcount=2

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Go ahead for now however, be aware there will be a new rental agreement coming out within a couple of weeks that will directly affect pets and sov.

Sounds a bit ominous. (hope that's the right word hehe)
Lets hope we aren't included as "pets" in that sentance.
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2009, 04:08:24 PM »
We are a pet after a fashion, just as Arcane were seen as pets.

Certainly some interesting reading to come I think.
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2009, 06:39:14 PM »
Quote from: Mangala on July 26, 2009, 04:08:24 PM
We are a pet after a fashion, just as Arcane were seen as pets.

Certainly some interesting reading to come I think.

True we are pets but wonder if we will ahve a different set of rules for sov compared to the renter pets.
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2009, 04:57:59 AM »
https://pandemic-legion.com/forums/showthread.php?p=263173#post263173

The agreement is up.

I'm a bit worried about the "no poses outside of satyr" as one of our chrom moons is in 7-8 and also the safe spot pos we have in c1x.

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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2009, 05:14:38 AM »
Satyr includes c1-. So it should be ok :)

7-8 on the other hand.

(Oh and edit your post on the ally boards, I havent told them about C1 or 7-8 poses or make it a theorectical question).
« Last Edit: August 05, 2009, 05:20:08 AM by Mangala »
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2009, 05:18:07 AM »
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There will be no sov rights in Fountain with the exception of Event Horizon who currently have sov in PNQ-Y. Anyone found with sovereignty will be evicted immediately.

Bye bye everyone else?
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2009, 05:24:27 AM »
Quote from: Mangala on August 05, 2009, 05:14:38 AM
Satyr includes c1-. So it should be ok :)

7-8 on the other hand.

(Oh and edit your post on the ally boards, I havent told them about C1 or 7-8 poses or make it a theorectical question).

C1 can easily be explained and is harmless enough, was set up when we didn't have access to high ends in our own space (still don't since FT mines them to oblivion).
7-8 on the other hand I'm very worried about.

But sure will edit it.

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Should I contact "red pimp" and ask if they need us to remove the pos in 7-8?
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2009, 08:45:18 AM »
Does this also mean we have to drop Sov in Z30?
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2009, 08:51:00 AM »
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If you have a pos currently not in the Satyr Constellation you have until the end of the month to remove them before they are forcefully removed. Any pos's currently in the Satyr Constellation that you wish to retain will need to be paid for immediately.
They seem to be clear about 7-8 pos.

Ehm... and Z30 too btw. If I read this right noone is allowed to have posses outside Satyr, (and PNQ for EZ)  :-X
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2009, 09:54:36 AM »
Quote from: Warcold on August 05, 2009, 08:51:00 AM
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If you have a pos currently not in the Satyr Constellation you have until the end of the month to remove them before they are forcefully removed. Any pos's currently in the Satyr Constellation that you wish to retain will need to be paid for immediately.
They seem to be clear about 7-8 pos.

Ehm... and Z30 too btw. If I read this right noone is allowed to have posses outside Satyr, (and PNQ for EZ)  :-X

Yes...
I know.
The way they have written it is idiotic and seems to indicate they want the renters out. How it affects us I have no idea.
I just don't know what to do... give up the 7-8 pos and then be forced to hand over both the caes and chrom in z30 to alliance or even be forced to move EVERYTHING! to the utterly useless pnq system.
And the alliance lead ofc won't say shit about it in the alliance forum (yet at least).

Nothing in that renters thing makes sense to be honest. Might be better to relocate to npc 0.0 and work by ourselves there.

Sadly I think our only option regarding the 7-8 pos is that mangs talks to alliance lead and asks them to check with sot if we can keep it or at least check if it is ok that I contact sot about it.
Especially since I got sot permission to have it up earlier.
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2009, 09:55:23 AM »
Quote from: Mangala on August 05, 2009, 05:18:07 AM
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There will be no sov rights in Fountain with the exception of Event Horizon who currently have sov in PNQ-Y. Anyone found with sovereignty will be evicted immediately.

Bye bye everyone else?

Some at least, for example xxx and hell.
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2009, 10:41:28 AM »
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at the current point:

- don´t anchor new towers anywhere
- don´t even think about claiming anything
- keep your current towers up and runing

DON`T CONTACT PL FOR ANYTHING

if something changes, we will let you know asap, but for now everything is at is was.
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2009, 11:00:53 AM »
it sounds to me like PL are gonna pew pew fountain of all those annoying reds and EZ will watch from the sidelines again.
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2009, 11:43:11 AM »
Quote from: Caradir on August 05, 2009, 11:00:53 AM
it sounds to me like PL are gonna pew pew fountain of all those annoying reds and EZ will watch from the sidelines again.

Doubt it...
To me it sounds more like "o shit... PL doesn't like us"

PL wouldn't need to make such fundamental changes to their renters agreement if it was only pew pew of GK they wanted (so far GK stays mostly out of PL/SoT restricted sov space).
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Re: The new PL renters agreement thread
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2009, 12:30:05 PM »
id start getting my shit out ... oh wait i did that a while ago ;)
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