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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2009, 10:00:12 PM »
With BoB out of the way and Goons' influence seemingly stretching all over the universe, will they become the next BoB? - The next most powerful block of players everyone bitches about and dreams about of taking down?

Probably.
Or they will just disintegrate out of boredom, I doubt they can keep their players interested with the main pvp being popping hulks in high sec.

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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2009, 05:07:06 PM »
Bit of post-mortem communication is required here.

Past few months nothing much has changed except band of Brothers aka Kenzoku reformed under the banner of I.T. Alliance.  And have spent the time since figting with PL over moons.

Will be interesting to see what comes of them in the future.  However some bright spark things this is the future:

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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2009, 09:51:58 PM »
Will be updating again from tomorrow....

However, i'll leave you folks with IT alliance newest video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AY7ysblqhM
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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2009, 09:09:37 AM »


So, this seems to be turning out to be slightly truer than most had thought it would... especially in the post-Dominion haze, although there is still some differences.

Basically IT have hit Fountain in the North-West of New Eden and are giving everyone there Good Fights, PL are holding their own in their station systems, SOT are having major issues internally and seem to be showing up less and less to defence ops, it usually turns out that PL and the increasing number of Goons show up to defend their stuff.  Apparently its due to conflicts between the Bulgarian coprs and everyone else in SOT. IT's russian allies AAA (or -A-) have begun showing up too, as Fountain really is great for shooty shooty now.

In the South-West "Stainwagon" is stymied by ZAF and Goon gangs, and battles just take and retake the same couple of systems over and over, while bomber gangs enjoy themselves too much.

In the East, Geminate burns.  Atlas and their allies have moved in intent on throwing out the NC pets that live there.  Razor Alliance - the so called "Best of the North" are forming up down there to aid against Atlas. Indeed both sides seem to be basing mere systems apart!  Bobby gets to go against Phreeze, one of the norths better FC's.  The coming weeks should be very interesting.

The Drone regions in the far-east are actually one of the quietest places to be right now.  Its all basically Russians going about the business of isk farming.

The North, well triumvirate and their allies (CO2 and Evoke) are in Pureblind (not exactly where that image predicted them, but still the north), doing their best to evict Most us - sorry Mostly Harmless from their space, while fending off Morsus Mihi and the remainder of the North that hasnt roadtripped to Geminate.

To sum up this, 0.0 space is pretty much one giant border conflict everywhere you go! Get into the alliances heartlands and you may as well be in empire without concord protection though.
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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2010, 01:05:02 PM »
Well it has been some time hasnt it.

The map I posted in previous posts regarding coalitions etc.  Its off slightly.

North doesnt include TCF now, Goons dont have any space in - well anywhere; IT own Delve, Querious and Period Basis and Fountain once more, Atlas and -A- are occasional blues, Goons are possibly gonna share space with the Dreddit guys in TEST (getting TCFs old space in Deklien).  Russians (drone regions) are on the move once more. Seiging the fuck out of major systems in Insmother (Russians spiritual home) and bringing this sort of hurt:



Its a beautiful sight!!

And CVA dont exist as sole holders to most of Providence.  -A- kicked them out on their way to invade the North with IT - which failed as the NC like to spam their blues onto people and crash systems and installed pets and such.  U'K - biggest pet recently got fucked - and are now controlled by Hydra.  And are now red to -A- and blue to CVA, and slowly giving their space away to hydra and CVA and probably selling some for the benefit of the bad man who fucked them!
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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2010, 09:18:30 PM »
In other news, the rumour mill suggests that IT are fighting -A- in provi and in bits of Q, PB ad Delve where -A- located assets, -A- are possibly blueing up to the rest of provi to shoot IT, while trying to claim U'K's space and Provi is returning to the roots of what it once was - just with lots of folks shooting each other. Atlas MAY come to help -A-, but with Russians spamming supercaps at them in Insomother, they are currently occupied.

The South is on fire and the North continues to bear it up.

Oh and PL is just hotdropping and temp blueing anyone with caps to kill it seems.
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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2010, 10:31:09 AM »
How things have changed.

Providence:
U'K got taken over in a hostile move. Corps kicked, lost space. Reformed as Damu'Khonde, and got their space back - most of it in a deal from the guy who fucked them. Rest of Providence seem to be increasingly ignoring -A- and enjoying themselves fighting each other as and when it pleases them, as well as the masses that are back roaming there.

Insmother:
Atlas welped.  PL got hired by RA & XIX and WN to aid them in hitting Atlas held space.  5 weeks ago it all began.  As of 6.22am EVE this morning, Insmother is in the Russians hands once again with the recapture of C-J the hub and heartland of the russians in EVE.  Up to this point Atlas havent really fought much, and also managed to lose 3 titans, 2 supercarriers and stacks of everything else.  Atlas are now in retreat to Omist and are hoping AAA will look after them.  Insmother is russian, detorid and wicked creed may face the same fate once Atlas abandon them.

North: Northern Coalition. (Dots important) has formed with members of the old Tri alliances and various other parties. They are making headway in Pureblind - at the expense of NC pets and main alliances.  MM and Rzr are off in the north Drone regions in the east trying to purge IRC while the other drone russians are fucking Atlas. Will be fun when they return :D

Western EVE: IT have removed AAA from the small handholds they had in Querious and are just roaming space from time to time, not doing much.  Making ISk and stabilising their space/income etc is at the forefront, although i do hope for a winter campaign somewhere.

Catch - AAA are losing good corps, and alot of their supercap pilots are joining the drone russians.  AAA may cascade as an functioning entity or may get shot by someone!

Empire - well empires empire :)
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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2010, 04:43:53 PM »
Update.

Green Alliance - atlas pets alliance, is also moving back to Omist/Empire.

AAA has lost 4 major corps in 2 weeks. 

IT go campaigning on Friday - to an as yet unknown destination.
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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2010, 04:03:59 PM »
Seems Bobby Atlas possibly left eve last week :)

Then this just happened:

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This war has ended today with the surrender of Atlas alliance to the Russians.

Both sides have deposited collateral with Chribba to ensure compliance, and Atlas has agreed to the following conditions:

-Atlas will provide 2 titans and 3 supercarriers to the XiX/WN/RA coalition
-Atlas will drop the Atlas alliance name

-The Russians and PL will set temp blue status to Atlas to allow them to evac their old space
-The remaining CSAAs active in Omist will be allowed to complete their production
-I believe the reformed Atlas will be allowed to stay in Omist

PL's contract is over and although we have our next job already lined up you can contact Noobjuice to discuss hiring us after that one finishes.

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Opening logs...
28th 1845 Eve AXDX Omist
UAxDEATH > so we got a deal ?
Gloria Khan > i say ok

29th 0915 Eve AXDX Omist
jenan Hyswa > ok deposit is on account with chribba

Chribba recieves ISK from both partys and then...

After DT Atlas as per agreement capitulated, was set blue and is due to pay tribute to WN XIX and RA.

Agreement

Colleteral: Atlas to pay 65b and XIX to pay 115b to Chribba
Tribute: 2 titans and 3 motherships to be transfered through Chribba to RA/WN/XIX
PL to stand down and their contract should finish when the deal is complete
Atlas will drop Atlas Alliance name

Victory Day 29th of August 2010 over Atlas empire
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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2010, 02:53:39 PM »
LOL:

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[ 2010.08.27 18:25:02 ] Madcat144 > 2 for 15?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:26:32 ] kaahooters > what size?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:26:44 ] kaahooters > also, somone give me all the alliance isk so i can buy a titan or 3
?[ 2010.08.27 18:33:12 ] Bobby Atlas > a deal with RA , are you guys crazy?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:33:21 ] kaahooters > aperantyly yes
?[ 2010.08.27 18:33:22 ] kaahooters > but
?[ 2010.08.27 18:33:27 ] Bobby Atlas > no but
?[ 2010.08.27 18:33:29 ] kaahooters > you resigned and we fell apart
?[ 2010.08.27 18:33:42 ] Bobby Atlas > everyone was told over 5 weeks ago
?[ 2010.08.27 18:33:45 ] Bobby Atlas > to stop building supercaps
?[ 2010.08.27 18:33:46 ] kaahooters > yea
?[ 2010.08.27 18:33:53 ] kaahooters > these were in build then
?[ 2010.08.27 18:34:00 ] Frobond > thats prity much what i said bobby
?[ 2010.08.27 18:34:02 ] kaahooters > and that mail was for outside omist
?[ 2010.08.27 18:34:37 ] Bobby Atlas > why the hell are you guys making a deal, alienating ATLAS from what blues we have left (even if they are on a knee themself), for the few cap producers, in the name of alienating the rest of the alliance
?[ 2010.08.27 18:34:55 ] kaahooters > not my call
?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:03 ] kaahooters > im just sayin what i know
?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:05 ] Bobby Atlas > i am hereby issuing notice
?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:06 ] Bobby Atlas > 7 days
?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:09 ] Bobby Atlas > the alliance is disbanding
?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:10 ] kaahooters > till?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:12 ] kaahooters > :O
?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:13 ] Bobby Atlas > problem solved
?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:25 ] kaahooters > i see
?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:35 ] kaahooters > well thats noot really fair bobby
?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:41 ] Bobby Atlas > it doesnt have to be fair
?[ 2010.08.27 18:36:04 ] kaahooters > decision was made without you as you resigned as leader, so ,
?[ 2010.08.27 18:36:11 ] kaahooters > i dont think itll go down well if you do taht
?[ 2010.08.27 18:36:20 ] Bobby Atlas > it doesnt have to go down well
?[ 2010.08.27 18:36:43 ] Bobby Atlas > the minute ra get there supercaps there just going to continue the invasion with xix/friends
?[ 2010.08.27 18:36:50 ] Bobby Atlas > and since the deal brokered involves resetting -a-
?[ 2010.08.27 18:36:54 ] Bobby Atlas > it means rol will reset also
?[ 2010.08.27 18:36:57 ] Bobby Atlas > and init eventually
?[ 2010.08.27 18:36:59 ] kaahooters > and by that satage we should have all our crap out
?[ 2010.08.27 18:37:05 ] Bobby Atlas > leaivng atlas alone and dead anyways
?[ 2010.08.27 18:37:18 ] Kerdrak > \o
?[ 2010.08.27 18:37:19 ] Kirianshalee > :sigh
?[ 2010.08.27 18:37:30 ] Vorce > I thought the desition about disbanding had allready been mad. Unless I missunderstood the discussion last night
?[ 2010.08.27 18:37:31 ] kaahooters > bobby its dead as it is, noone will pewpew cos your not here
?[ 2010.08.27 18:37:44 ] Bobby Atlas > [18:37:30] Vorce > I thought the desition about disbanding had allready been mad. Unless I missunderstood the discussion last night
?[ 2010.08.27 18:37:47 ] Bobby Atlas > explain vorce
?[ 2010.08.27 18:37:56 ] Aurora148 > its part of the deal
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:00 ] Aurora148 > atlas is disbanded
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:08 ] Vorce > I'm not sure, was semi afk but i saw talks about disbanding
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:09 ] kaahooters > i didnt get told that
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:13 ] Bobby Atlas > part of the deal brokered involves atlas disbanding?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:18 ] Bobby Atlas > that is an actual term in the deal?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:21 ] Madcat144 > yes
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:26 ] Bobby Atlas > are you fuckin joking?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:29 ] Madcat144 > no
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:36 ] Bobby Atlas > did they ask you to suck there cocks too
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:37 ] kaahooters > i was told 2 titans 3 sc to ra ect, we get blue, have to drop our blues and thats it
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:40 ] Bobby Atlas > and give up your wives
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:47 ] Kerdrak > bobby, can you magically reimburse all cap builders?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:53 ] Bobby Atlas > KERDRAK
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:57 ] Bobby Atlas > all cap builders were told
?[ 2010.08.27 18:38:59 ] Bobby Atlas > over 5 weeks ago
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:01 ] Bobby Atlas > to STOP BUILDING
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:14 ] Bobby Atlas > it was in the leadership topic
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:16 ] Bobby Atlas > for weeks
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:21 ] Gloria Khan > hi Bobby
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:24 ] Kerdrak > we also were told we would defend
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:30 ] Kerdrak > we would had allies
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:32 ] Kerdrak > and all that
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:37 ] Shaleen > it takes more than 5 weeks to buld a titan
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:45 ] kaahooters > -a- fucked, sos rol
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:46 ] Bobby Atlas > at the time when the order was put up
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:49 ] Shaleen > *build
?[ 2010.08.27 18:39:51 ] Bobby Atlas > there was 1 titan in build
?[ 2010.08.27 18:40:05 ] Kerdrak > when i built my titan we were under nor threat
?[ 2010.08.27 18:40:22 ] Bobby Atlas > good for you
?[ 2010.08.27 18:40:33 ] Bobby Atlas > the actions of the few, should not alienate the many
?[ 2010.08.27 18:40:41 ] Kerdrak > yeah
?[ 2010.08.27 18:40:43 ] Kerdrak > you are right
?[ 2010.08.27 18:40:47 ] Bobby Atlas > membership above all else
?[ 2010.08.27 18:40:50 ] Kerdrak > the many here are the people who want to save some isk
?[ 2010.08.27 18:40:53 ] Bobby Atlas > the fact the few have supercaps building
?[ 2010.08.27 18:40:57 ] Bobby Atlas > should not dictate policy
?[ 2010.08.27 18:41:01 ] Kerdrak > as the remaining have already evacced
?[ 2010.08.27 18:41:12 ] Kerdrak > and the alliance is DEAD
?[ 2010.08.27 18:41:13 ] Bobby Atlas > the many are not the membership
?[ 2010.08.27 18:41:24 ] Tenhult > so we have like 7 days now and all super caps are gone?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:41:34 ] kaahooters > yup
?[ 2010.08.27 18:41:44 ] Bobby Atlas > i will not sit by and watch a sellout to ra that has such retarded terms
?[ 2010.08.27 18:41:48 ] Madcat144 > till bigger and better things
?[ 2010.08.27 18:41:52 ] Bobby Atlas > i will sooner disband it myself
?[ 2010.08.27 18:41:55 ] Madcat144 > 7 days till we can move on
?[ 2010.08.27 18:41:59 ] Tenhult > things change fast in this game :-)
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:08 ] Bobby Atlas > you dont create policy and terms around the supercap builders
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:11 ] Kerdrak > now you are taking the justice by your only hand
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:28 ] Bobby Atlas > no im not
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:28 ] Kerdrak > you have created policy under your only terms
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:32 ] Kerdrak > all this time
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:37 ] kaahooters > it did work
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:39 ] Kerdrak > and nobody said anything
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:42 ] kaahooters > but only whe you were here
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:44 ] Bobby Atlas > i always created policy on behalf of the members
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:45 ] Kerdrak > you MADE DEALS with RA
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:46 ] Bobby Atlas > not myself
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:47 ] Kerdrak > in teh past
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:51 ] Bobby Atlas > wrong
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:53 ] Kerdrak > and we have to say "ok bobby"
?[ 2010.08.27 18:42:54 ] Bobby Atlas > WRONG
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:13 ] Bobby Atlas > there is a difference between deals
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:16 ] Tenhult > can you make bigger caps bobby?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:27 ] Kerdrak > no there is no difference
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:29 ] Bobby Atlas > no but you can
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:35 ] Bobby Atlas > click the a+ button
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:36 ] kaahooters > thats not fair, bobby can get everyone in the alliance in caps
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:38 ] Bobby Atlas > works like a charm
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:40 ] kaahooters > bobby
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:44 ] kaahooters > a arent comin to help
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:47 ] Kerdrak > i made a deal to satisfy the most people
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:51 ] Bobby Atlas > i know -a- arnt coming
?[ 2010.08.27 18:43:53 ] Bobby Atlas > -a- is dying too
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:00 ] Kerdrak > and the majority is ok
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:01 ] Bobby Atlas > no you made a deal to satisfy the cap builders
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:02 ] kaahooters > then whats the problem
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:03 ] Bobby Atlas > above all else
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:08 ] kaahooters > you know we cant do shit
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:10 ] Kerdrak > THE PROBLEM IS THE E-HONOUR....
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:12 ] Kerdrak > meh
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:19 ] kaahooters > and d your raging at kend for doin the best he can
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:19 ] Kinizsi > ROL die allso?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:30 ] Bobby Atlas > ROL will just merge
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:30 ] Aurora148 > all the good people left rol for wn
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:33 ] Kerdrak > i've never seen a rol ship
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:34 ] Kerdrak > tbh
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:34 ] Bobby Atlas > with another rusk group
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:38 ] Bobby Atlas > mostly WN
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:39 ] Bobby Atlas > ya
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:44 ] Dexster916 > it would also include safe evac for those with ships remaining in stations, to my members thats pretty imprortant :\
?[ 2010.08.27 18:44:58 ] Kerdrak > and -a- the only fleet that have taken to our territory was to fight init
?[ 2010.08.27 18:45:02 ] Kerdrak > that is pretty pathetic
?[ 2010.08.27 18:45:08 ] madhapee > ^^
?[ 2010.08.27 18:45:19 ] Kerdrak > so no... bobby, sorry but i'm bored of this shit
?[ 2010.08.27 18:45:22 ] Gloria Khan > it is poinless shouting over this guys - it is the deal we have agreed
?[ 2010.08.27 18:45:25 ] Kerdrak > and we are not gonna lose more stuff
?[ 2010.08.27 18:45:31 ] Gloria Khan > this^^
?[ 2010.08.27 18:45:33 ] Kerdrak > we are done
?[ 2010.08.27 18:45:41 ] Kerdrak > best thing we can do is save what we can
?[ 2010.08.27 18:45:43 ] Kerdrak > reform
?[ 2010.08.27 18:45:45 ] Kerdrak > and start again
?[ 2010.08.27 18:46:11 ] kaahooters > we grew to fat and lazy, with to much inactivity at all levels
?[ 2010.08.27 18:46:16 ] Bobby Atlas > there is nothing to reform if you sell out like this
?[ 2010.08.27 18:46:16 ] Kerdrak > i don't care about e-honour and dealing with russians... this is a game
?[ 2010.08.27 18:46:23 ] Bobby Atlas > [18:46:11] kaahooters > we grew to fat and lazy, with to much inactivity at all levels
?[ 2010.08.27 18:46:26 ] Bobby Atlas > nope not even close
?[ 2010.08.27 18:46:35 ] Kerdrak > you can have the holding and the alliance if you want
?[ 2010.08.27 18:46:36 ] madhapee > its more of a tactical retreat i think
?[ 2010.08.27 18:46:40 ] Kerdrak > and put it in a keychain
?[ 2010.08.27 18:46:40 ] kaahooters > dude, we havent done anything since geminate
?[ 2010.08.27 18:46:46 ] Madcat144 > we made the deal already? we cant go back?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:46:52 ] madhapee > recovering as much as we can and losing less than we will
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:04 ] Kerdrak > no, we can't go back and we wont unless someone put 200b in the table
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:04 ] Shaleen > soo Bobby you left alliance you post "I am sorry" , Kerdrak takes over and tries to save what he can and you just log in and say "lets look after members" ....
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:19 ] Kerdrak > someone give me noe 200b and i will the russians to fuck off
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:20 ] Bobby Atlas > geminate finished in feb we came home went provi then north which was a cluster fuck then back south
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:22 ] Bobby Atlas > and a month later
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:28 ] Kirianshalee > saveing billiions is looking after corps
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:29 ] Bobby Atlas > ruskies started pounding on shit
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:37 ] Bobby Atlas > so dont say we sat idle
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:44 ] Gloria Khan > guys chill out. lets move on
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:50 ] Gloria Khan > look ahead not back
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:58 ] kaahooters > yea, and our particaption was weining since geminate, fuck all went and cleared out prov
?[ 2010.08.27 18:47:58 ] Shaleen > that`s why Kerdrak try to achieve
?[ 2010.08.27 18:48:16 ] Kerdrak > i did what people asked
?[ 2010.08.27 18:48:20 ] Kerdrak > to save stuff
?[ 2010.08.27 18:48:26 ] Kerdrak > we have to pay for that
?[ 2010.08.27 18:48:29 ] Gloria Khan > i backed Kerdrak 100%
?[ 2010.08.27 18:48:30 ] Kerdrak > e-honour?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:48:37 ] kaahooters > fuck e honour
?[ 2010.08.27 18:48:39 ] kaahooters > its a game
?[ 2010.08.27 18:48:42 ] Tenhult > move on where? we cant do shit as bobby cant/wont run the alliance. But disband it every time we do something he doesnt like
?[ 2010.08.27 18:48:49 ] kaahooters > and ppl dont like losing, and less losing everything they have
?[ 2010.08.27 18:48:53 ] Kerdrak > in 2 months nobody will care
?[ 2010.08.27 18:49:36 ] Kerdrak > everyone have the chance to evac their stuff, pay the lost titans and the builders
?[ 2010.08.27 18:49:44 ] Kerdrak > then when all numbers are done
?[ 2010.08.27 18:49:51 ] Kerdrak > everyone can follow their path
?[ 2010.08.27 18:49:55 ] Kerdrak > or keep together
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:04 ] Vorce > Will that deal include getting shit out of Detorid as well?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:09 ] kaahooters > and bobby loged
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:14 ] Dexster916 > i really hope he doesnt disband our alliance...
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:15 ] Shaleen > haha , very nice logged off
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:16 ] Kirianshalee > sccrew bobby
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:23 ] Vorce > Will that deal include getting shit out of Detorid as well?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:23 ] kaahooters > expect ts and forums to erage deelete and alliance disbanded in 30 min
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:27 ] madhapee > so the usual from bobby ?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:37 ] Kerdrak > gl disbandind the ally
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:40 ] Vera Vagabond > bobby doesnt have roles to dispand
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:44 ] Vera Vagabond > i just checked
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:47 ] kaahooters > epic
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:50 ] Dexster916 > ok good lol
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:54 ] Kerdrak > and tbh if he shutdown the forum
?[ 2010.08.27 18:50:57 ] Kerdrak > will do us a favor
?[ 2010.08.27 18:51:07 ] madhapee > less info for the spais
?[ 2010.08.27 18:51:13 ] Vorce > This place is like a chatroom for kids right now
?[ 2010.08.27 18:51:27 ] kaahooters > are you sayin atlas is all pedos?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:51:30 ] Lady Youwish > Bobby did have one good idea
?[ 2010.08.27 18:52:24 ] kaahooters > tbh, all i care about is gettin the guys that lost titans something to compensate them
?[ 2010.08.27 18:52:36 ] Madcat144 > ?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:05 ] Bobby Atlas > i am hereby issuing notice?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:06 ] Bobby Atlas > 7 days?[ 2010.08.27 18:35:09 ] Bobby Atlas > the alliance is disbanding
?[ 2010.08.27 18:52:37 ] Madcat144 > ?
?[ 2010.08.27 18:52:47 ] Shaleen > and that is exactly what Kerdrak is trying to achieve
?[ 2010.08.27 18:53:07 ] Madcat144 > in two months
?[ 2010.08.27 18:53:09 ] Kerdrak > have no sense
?[ 2010.08.27 18:53:12 ] Kerdrak > he abandoned us
?[ 2010.08.27 18:53:19 ] Kerdrak > but he comes when we take a decision
?[ 2010.08.27 18:53:21 ] kaahooters > look
?[ 2010.08.27 18:59:31 ] Kerdrak > BobbyAtlas dice: why were my roles in holding

A few days before the deal was finalised, Bobby showed up and the above is fun!!!
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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2010, 10:03:23 PM »
Delve 2 and 3 from a Goons POV:

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I joined in August 07 in a newbee drive . I only paid for my first 2 months in EvE, so over the course of 3 years I spent around $30 total, paying for your gametime with in game ISK is something all players should shoot for.



A few weeks after I joined GF, the Alliance formerly known as BoB announced their withdraw from the South conceding defeat. They released this video trying to gain sympathy from the Greater EvE Community. It is pretty well made including custom models and animation but the story is bullshit. They call themselves "The Allies" and use emotional music trying to paint the picture that they were the underdogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1yS6iZWBiA

We had to set them straight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4diQEwrjv8

Propaganda in EvE is more meaningful than in other games and can truly effect the perceptions of the common EvE pubbie, and it did. Stahlregen, Polukets, Vadinho, are all talented and super creative. Polukets made felt puppets of bees and made a stop motion music video for gods sake, which happens to be the best thing to ever come out of EvE. Our propaganda is so effective that CCP is starting to steal some of the concepts Goons have used over the years. Specifically "Be part of something big, even if you're small" as evidenced in the Butterfly Effect trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08hmqyejCYU



I joined as Goonswarm was finishing up conquest of the south and setting up shop in our new space. I lived there until the first Delve war which went about as good as you would expect. We hit them hard several times and were on the road to winning until the death of a Russian titan in NOL and several Allies flaking out on their part of the bargain grinding the campaign into a stalemate. At which point we finally returned home. In the end we weren't really defeated, after all what can you do against 12 Titans sitting next to the thing you have to kill to take the system. They could fire off a 250KM radius Doomsday every 5 minutes if they wanted to.

We went home to the South and happily Jewed in peace for a few months until we were attacked by our old Allies AAA (after a fiasco involving ownership of a static Mission Complex). Soon after BoB smelled blood and dogpiled into the fight. We had Director level spies turning off our System Sov in at least one system and we were facing a huge group of players. We were able to hold them back in some of the largest battles EvE had seen up to that point.

Beginning of the invasion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUuyEv2jhO4

Even as we are winning, the war began to drag on. Then something magical happened. The story everyone knows about.

Before: http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/c...te/20090204.png
After: http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/c...te/20090205.png

We torched everything we couldn't carry and slammed into Delve hoping for something awesome. Instead for the first time since I started playing EvE it actually became SPREADSHEETSINSPACE. We camped the majority of BoB into a Station for a month with the help of our Allies. It remains the longest operation in EvE history and the most boring. I personally spent about 3 weeks cloaked in that system. We took to reading books and things over teamspeak to keep ourselves entertained. Everyone thought the second Delve war was going to be the biggest thing EvE had ever seen lasting for months and months, instead we watched spreadsheets turn green as our Capital fleet obliterated Delve while we held the hostiles in Station.

Delve2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H9dQfVN3Ns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_UtqfN9twc - VD Day. Victory in Delve Celebration in 49-U, one of the lynch pin systems of the EvE Universe. 25 titans DD a Carrier. CCP actually ended up using this footage in their Fanfest Presentation later that year as an argument that Titans have gotten out of hand. Not like we had been saying that for years already. Instead of an AOE weapon Titans now had the ability to target and destory single Capital ships with one blow. The biggest Fireworks show EvE has ever seen.

Heres a different perspective with Teamspeak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9H5-8B6Sqc



The south was gone and we finally moved into our new space in Delve, our goal from the beginning.

So looonggg Detoridd, Goonswarm says Goodbye to the South. Lots of interesting History in this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c0DCNB-VuI



We lived in Delve and became SpaceJews of the highest order, I was able to afford a Carrier of my own finally as well as Billion ISK T3 ships. All was well, except there wasn't anything to shoot at really.

BoB, now called IT had been spending their time wisely and was finally in a position to try and retake Delve and began attacking.

Delve3 had begun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoNAorIzB50

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    In the early hours of 26.01.112, GoonSwarm corporation GoonFleet lost sovereignty over 30 systems across Delve, Querious and Period Basis after automatic payment of the upkeep bills failed due to depleted funds in the main wallet division of the corporation.

    Enemies of GoonSwarm in IT Alliance [-IT-] and Against ALL Authorities [.-A-.] were quick to respond to the changes, pushing into the fallen systems. Against ALL Authorities took 3 systems in Querious while IT seized sovereignty over 8 systems in Delve, including the outpost in NOL-M9. (This outpost was hotly fought over in two previous wars in Delve, between GoonSwarm and Band of Brothers/KenZoku, whose corporations now are part of IT Alliance.) Relative new-comers and IT allies Black Star Alliance also sent forces from their new territories in Fountain, capturing 8 systems and the outpost in 8WA-Z6.



and ended just as abruptly because shocking everyone, we called an immediate retreat when our Sov dropped saving Billions in Alliance and personal assets.

A good read, with some good videos in it.
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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2010, 10:51:23 PM »
Seems Bobby Atlas possibly left eve last week :)

Then this just happened:

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This war has ended today with the surrender of Atlas alliance to the Russians.

Both sides have deposited collateral with Chribba to ensure compliance, and Atlas has agreed to the following conditions:

-Atlas will provide 2 titans and 3 supercarriers to the XiX/WN/RA coalition
-Atlas will drop the Atlas alliance name

-The Russians and PL will set temp blue status to Atlas to allow them to evac their old space
-The remaining CSAAs active in Omist will be allowed to complete their production
-I believe the reformed Atlas will be allowed to stay in Omist

PL's contract is over and although we have our next job already lined up you can contact Noobjuice to discuss hiring us after that one finishes.

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Opening logs...
28th 1845 Eve AXDX Omist
UAxDEATH > so we got a deal ?
Gloria Khan > i say ok

29th 0915 Eve AXDX Omist
jenan Hyswa > ok deposit is on account with chribba

Chribba recieves ISK from both partys and then...

After DT Atlas as per agreement capitulated, was set blue and is due to pay tribute to WN XIX and RA.

Agreement

Colleteral: Atlas to pay 65b and XIX to pay 115b to Chribba
Tribute: 2 titans and 3 motherships to be transfered through Chribba to RA/WN/XIX
PL to stand down and their contract should finish when the deal is complete
Atlas will drop Atlas Alliance name

Victory Day 29th of August 2010 over Atlas empire

Welp, atlas are fucked harder:

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From the sounds of it the corp that owned the first few supercaps coming out decided to fuck over the supercap builders in the other corps by running off with them. Deal is off, Atlas is reset and the 65b should be transferred from Chribba to the russians soon.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1378713
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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2010, 05:36:48 AM »
Lol
Not to unexpected (and in a way seems bobby was right ;) ) focusing on helping the supercap builders might not be the best for an alliance as a whole hehe

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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2010, 02:20:48 PM »
So Atlas is gone, AAA is next.

PL is hitting them for lulz, INIT is hitting them as AAA tried to tell them how to behave and what not, IT is attacking them as Molle is pissed they abandoned MAX 2 in the north, fucking it up for IT, XIX, RA, WN, have shown up to take space, some of which they are giving to INIT, some of which they'll keep.

6 alliances invading the space of 1!!  And AAA only has ROL/SE/Coven to support them...  And their pets in AAAC are busy offering to pay their new masters already...
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Re: Politics Thread - What does the future hold?
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2010, 08:32:40 AM »
Birth of a new bloc level power??? (init that is)