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Title: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Mangala on May 25, 2009, 08:54:43 PM
Who is skilled for destroyers?

Who is skilled to T2 fit those destroyers?

Who thinks a small gang of well fit (ideally for alpha - and yes if I have to skill minnie for a thrasher and arty I will!!!0destroyers would be a good laugh to take out of an evening on a regular basis in either 0.0 (NPC 0.0 like Syndicate) or Lowsec near our hisec homes (Builders up there could build the ships, then we get them blown up :D)

The aim would be to survive or die gloriously and take as many people with us as possible, and generally have a blast doing it.
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: peo on May 26, 2009, 04:51:23 AM
Sounds fun.
Hrod can fly but not t2 fit any.
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on May 26, 2009, 06:51:12 AM
atm, destroyers is only at II, but aimed for V in the next 50 days, so guess i can move these skills forward and I will have it at V in a week / 8 days.
I can fit T2, but will have to play with EFT to see if fitting allows it.

Very much like the idea though!

my fit (http://handsofjustice.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1082.0)
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on May 26, 2009, 05:47:23 PM
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(ideally for alpha - and yes if I have to skill minnie for a thrasher and arty I will!!!)
training for the thrasher isnt the prob ofc, only 8 hours or so, but if you want to go for T2 arties, that will take a while longer. You can always go for small proj IV, which will take about 24h more...
if you use an Auxiliary Power Control you can fit 280mm 'scout's and do more dam than me mebbe. I cant use APCs yet, or I might have   :)
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on May 26, 2009, 05:54:23 PM
did a test and using 280 scouts i get 105 dps, 859 alpha but i have small proj V ofc (but surgical strike and rapid firing at IV and destroyer only at II, all skills at V give 129 dps - 1002 alpha)
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on May 27, 2009, 05:21:40 PM
I think t2 fit is not necessary, so if keeping that in mind we get more ppl to join in, hurray!
And I for one would really like some corp pvp fun, so hope we get more than 3 ppl to join in  :-\
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Mangala on May 28, 2009, 12:42:53 PM
Taken a slight detour to Destroyer IV then V :)

Following which I'll have a need for minnie frigs to V and slave guns too :D
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Macrune on May 28, 2009, 05:17:18 PM
Im pretty sure  odin is caldari destro V and he can def do a full T2 fit on one. How about a mix of Destro's and assault ships. Im pretty sure ive got a harpy and a hawk sitting around somewhere in odin's stash. I know they are a little more pricey than a Destro but Hey! if ur intending to risk throwing away a full T2 fit destro then an assault ship isnt really going to be much worse.  in for a penny in for a pound etc.
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 06, 2009, 10:14:00 AM
What we could do with destroyers:

from: http://www.agony-unleashed.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:PVP_University/FLYBYS
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Introduction

Flyby sniping is an advanced technique using destroyers or larger ships to attack other fleets at distance without subjecting the fleet to significant risk. This seminar will teach you the technique, how to lead the gang, and determine the right time and place to use the tactic.

If you want to see what this technique and seminar is all about check out the video "How to Dismantle a Gate Camp" by Greater Mind.
Prerequisites
Courses

   1. PVP-BASIC
   2. PVP-WOLFPACKS

Skills

The pilot must have the skills and the setup to hit 50km or more with small guns. This means that preferably optimal range is at least 50km or more but at least optimal plus falloff must be 50km The pilot must also be using tech 2 guns. Some options are illustrated below.

   1. Tech 2 Coercer (Very Hard)
         1. Small Energy Turret 5
         2. Small Energy Beam Specialization 1+
         3. Amarr Frigate 3+
   2. Tech 2 Catalyst (Tough but Doable)
         1. Small Hybrid Turret 5
         2. Small Railgun Specialization 1+
         3. Gallente Frigate 3+
   3. Tech 2 Thrasher (Tough but Doable)
         1. Small Projectile Turret 5
         2. Small Artillery Specialization 1
         3. Minmatar Frigate 3+
         4. Sharpshooter 4+
   4. Tech 2 Cormorant (Easiest)
         1. Small Hybrid Turret 5
         2. Small Railgun Specialization 1+
         3. Caldari Frigate 3+

In addition, the following skills will be needed:

   1. Destroyers 3+
   2. Sharpshooter 3+
   3. Motion Prediction 3+
   4. Rapid Firing 3+

MOVIE: http://www.agony-unleashed.com/e107_files/downloads/AGONY_How-To.wmv
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Mangala on June 06, 2009, 03:21:20 PM
Very nice Saf, certainly some food for thought for my soon to have destroyer V self :)
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: peo on June 08, 2009, 12:35:14 PM
Should we try to get this on some evening this week?
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 08, 2009, 02:01:00 PM
YES!  :D
exams are done for now, so got plenty a time!
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Caradir on June 08, 2009, 02:23:31 PM
let me see what i can knockup with my Amarr pew pew, not sure about T2 but he can fit T2 guns ;)

Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 08, 2009, 03:29:55 PM
tomorrow? or?
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Mangala on June 08, 2009, 03:34:10 PM
tomorrow? or?

Not tonight or Saturday for me :)

Need to set a few destroyers up fit how I want them as well too.
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Caradir on June 08, 2009, 03:40:06 PM
tomorrows no good or wed :)  so Thu,Fri or Sun eve if i remember everything i have planned this week
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 08, 2009, 03:54:24 PM
I could do tomorrow anyway. Give ppl some time to fit too, say... somewhere between 1800 and 1900 evetime?
Depends on where we will take off from too...

Feel free to propose other date/time :)
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 08, 2009, 08:42:29 PM
hmm, somehow i missed your message before Garry, srry

thursday then?
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 08, 2009, 08:52:18 PM
btw, if we are with 4, maybe not useful to all have tackler setup. any ideas on ideal gang composition?
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Caradir on June 08, 2009, 08:54:07 PM
im in Amarr so no tackle fit anyway with only 1 medium  ;)

Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Mangala on June 09, 2009, 05:51:05 AM
Thursdays good - gives me more time to zip around setting up destroyers in a variety of places.

As for gang setup, let me think on it - although who is bringing what race?
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Dehn on June 09, 2009, 08:17:36 AM
I can fly all this and have the skills for it, just need to get an amarr destroyer fitted :)

doubt i'm around thursday though.

Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 09, 2009, 08:40:37 AM
there'll be other times  :) (or propose another day this week)

@mang: guess minm, minm (hrod?), amarr, 'what you fly'
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: peo on June 09, 2009, 08:59:46 AM
Yup a trash fit trasher (can't fit much else hehe)

Would like to know where we are to be in either case.
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Mangala on June 09, 2009, 09:08:53 AM
Providence :)

WHy not say hi to CVA - they must be missing us!
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 09, 2009, 09:16:30 AM
Garry, I see the Thrasher BPO is in Anttiri V-6. If there are mins available there, could you build some of them? 3 for me at least?
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 11, 2009, 10:09:41 AM
So, tonight it's on. Plan is to depart from Mista (Domain) and head into lowsec/providence from there.
Mang won't be home till 7-8 Evetime, so we can either wait for him or have a go at it earlier.
What do you guys want?

plz make sure you can at least hear ppl on voice, if you got mic's even better
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: peo on June 11, 2009, 10:17:28 AM
So, tonight it's on. Plan is to depart from Mista (Domain) and head into lowsec/providence from there.
Mang won't be home till 7-8 Evetime, so we can either wait for him or have a go at it earlier.
What do you guys want?

plz make sure you can at least hear ppl on voice, if you got mic's even better

Use eve voice?
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 11, 2009, 10:21:10 AM
whatever all ppl have, better use an external program as they are not affected by DCs, but whatever...
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Mangala on June 11, 2009, 07:29:56 PM
Shall be about 1hr - 40 mins of this journey left apparently and then the time to get home from the station.

However this is Virgin Trains we are talking about and I got on this train 3hrs ago now. (for a 2.5hr journey).
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 11, 2009, 07:31:06 PM
ugh, good luck, cya when you get here  :)
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 11, 2009, 07:59:36 PM
well at least you didnt get your ship killed by a stupid newb FC (me), got targeted so we (me and brian) started shooting...

CONCORDOKKEN!!!   :-X
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 11, 2009, 10:15:44 PM
Well, after flying around some, a bit too cautiously, we decided to make a stand near a busy system. We got one bomb on our heads before (just damaging shields) but not soon after we began our cry for fiery deaths we got another bomb on our heads, killing hrod.
Cmaxx and I managed to kill (???) a t1 frig (hurray!), although we dont have a killmail. We dont want to believe he got away, so we decided he got a coupe de grace from one of his smelly french friends. At around this time, a 10-man gang jumped us and they managed to take out cmaxx, but I got away to a planet. The next gate I jumped to (the way out) was bubbled though, so I found my Waterloo soon after.
Conclusion: we need more practice in doing these things. This was my 2nd time FC-ing I think and it is hard to decide when and where to make a stand, search for targets, or wait at a gate. So we should do this more often!

All in all had a fun night. Would be cool to have more ppl along though. But hey, who can blame the British Railway or old age?  :D
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 12, 2009, 07:32:17 AM
btw, had a little chat with one of the guys that killed us, after i was podded. we got their thanks for bringing some excitement to a boring night  ;)
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Mangala on June 12, 2009, 02:43:41 PM
btw, had a little chat with one of the guys that killed us, after i was podded. we got their thanks for bringing some excitement to a boring night  ;)

Sorry about that - got off the train and an ex manager of mine was getting off next carriage. So we went for a catch up drink that led to meeting up with a stack of old colleagues and going to clubs I thought i'd grown out of :(

Glad you found some enjoyment - and that you gave FCing a shot :)
Title: Re: Destroyer gangs?
Post by: Warcold on June 12, 2009, 04:34:23 PM
i gave you 2 options:
- your train derailed
- you went pubbin'

hope your head doesnt hurt too much  :D