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Caracal - PVP
« on: February 11, 2009, 12:54:27 PM »
Assault launcher fit caracal.   Not the most optimal usage of the ship, but it can rip into similar sized and smaller ships pretty well - very handy for stripping down shields and armor sharpish.  Obviously bring different types of missiles to fit a situation - EM damage works pretty well on average. 

I fit a tank on this rather than more Ewar/tackle modules in the mids,. Give it a touch more survivability.

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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2009, 01:06:55 PM »
Heavy Launcher fit caracal.  2 sensor boosters with scripts for locking time and targeting range (needs to cover the missiles flight distance really). Ideal for an anti EWAR platform to sit at 50+km out from the group :)

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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2009, 04:12:49 PM »
I am going with this set-up. Can't quite fit all the stuff in Mangala's version (no MWD and just a T1 BCS), but I atempted to get as close as I could without spending fortunes on the fitting :)

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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2009, 05:54:18 PM »
for launchers you could look at the SV-2000, a bit more bucks, but a bit more bang too (shorter cycle time)
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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2009, 06:11:47 PM »
i ALWAYS go "arbalest" for my launchers, they are the fastest and have more ammo capacity than the standards or even the SV2000s

thed difference being sv2000 are meta level 3 , arbalest 4 so will cost a bit more but will increase your dps by 5% per launcher.
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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2009, 06:14:23 PM »
10mill a chuck minimum for the arbies ;)
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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2009, 06:15:07 PM »
Quote from: Mangala on February 11, 2009, 06:14:23 PM
10mill a chuck minimum for the arbies ;)

gods i have too much cash then :)
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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2009, 09:21:46 PM »
aye, SV2000s only go by 80k or so, thus are a good go for us poor noobs   ;)
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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2009, 06:41:56 PM »
I decided to spend 9 hours from my skill plan to get, against loud protests from Mangala and Constatine, HEAVY ASSAULT MISSILES



The reasoning:

a) They have a high DPS compared to regular heavy missiles, even though HAM range sucks sorely

b) We'll get jumped (or jump somebdoy ;) ) at some gate anyway, and the range pays little difference then anyway.

c) There are lots of differrent HAM's in corp hangars, and I guess nobody else will touch them with 10 feet poles...


The down side with the heavy launchers (both HAM and regular) is that I can't fit a tank becasue there simply is not even close enough cap for it. So I did fit in a target painter and ECM instead. Would like to hear comments if some other EW modules would be better. You may also comment on the sanity of HAM's, but I won't change my mind ;) 
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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2009, 07:18:44 PM »
I think you are pretty right, especially concerning point 'b)'! That, plus that most ships we get jumped by are pretty big ships and HAMs have an explosion radius of 125m, which isnt even so big, considering the signature radius of a Caracal (cruiser) is 145m already.

The only thing in your fit I dare to question is the use of the target painter. Esp. in gangs, this could better be left to Minmatar with bonuses, and I think a webifier would be very nice instead, because then you slow down the targeted ship, which will benefit the damage of your missiles, having only a explosion speed of 101 m/s.
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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2009, 08:26:13 PM »
Quote from: Warcold on February 12, 2009, 07:18:44 PM
The only thing in your fit I dare to question is the use of the target painter. Esp. in gangs, this could better be left to Minmatar with bonuses, and I think a webifier would be very nice instead, because then you slow down the targeted ship, which will benefit the damage of your missiles, having only a explosion speed of 101 m/s.
I thought about the webber, but they have a range of just 10km, so could become an issue even at a gate-camp. I was thinking that maybe we have faster ships (frigates) along who use the webbers anyway. And those Partial Weapon target painters did cost just 3800 ISK in Jita, so I bought a few... Anyway, I am prepared to switch the target painter to something that is not available in the gang else (and if somebody needs those Parial Weapon target painters, give me a shout :) ).
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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2009, 08:32:38 PM »
Webbing is probably best left to tacklers, ie me?? :)
Seriously, since we orbit around below 10k since thats the range of a scram using a web just makes sense.
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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2009, 08:38:25 PM »
Warp Disruptor - 20km or so range maybe?
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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2009, 08:57:58 PM »
your missiles only have a range of 10-11 km or so, so i guess you will be able to use webbers too  ;)

and hrod, more than one webber is not an extreme luxury or so, the more the merrier (to some extend)
also handy to have when the tackler is MIA
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Re: Caracal - PVP
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2009, 09:15:04 PM »
Quote from: Warcold on February 12, 2009, 08:57:58 PM
your missiles only have a range of 10-11 km or so, so i guess you will be able to use webbers too  ;)

and hrod, more than one webber is not an extreme luxury or so, the more the merrier (to some extend)
also handy to have when the tackler is MIA

Of course :)
What i meant was that from what I know his missiles have a much longer range than a webber so he would be better off with something else (what I have no idea).
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