Transport between empire and fountain

[Warcold]

There were plans to move BPCs from empire to fountain in a covops or inty, but I thought that would be a bit risky.
So I asked in Alliance and DarthKarroow seems to do regular trips in a JF.

He wasnt online, so I sent him a mail (see below). If people want to transport more stuff (unrigged ships?) we could ask him to haul a big load. Please let us know in this thread, so we can tell this guy how much volume we want him to transport. If he agrees ofc.

(Sorry if I crossed lines with other ppls' ideas, but I was making decisions about other stuff, so boldly called this shot too)

Hi,

I was told you make regular trips with your JF between empire and fountain.

We would like to move some valuable stuff to fountain, but our carrier pilot is out of action, so we dont have safe means to transport stuff anymore.

Do you accept courier contracts? And if so, for what price?
As it seems now, it will be a very small package.

Thanks,
Safran

[Mangala]

Good idea - lets see how it pans out.

Now to figure out what we need moved in either direction.

[peo]

I'd say all the moon minerals at the very least (about 120m or thereabouts in them alone depending on price someone pays)

[Mangala]

I'd say all the moon minerals at the very least (about 120m or thereabouts in them alone depending on price someone pays)

Definetly.

And the other way - bpc's of cap parts and such.

[peo]

Should probably try to get some unrigged ships in as well, battleships etc that people are missing.
Rare modules (high metalevel proj and lasers for example) could also be good to bring.

[Warcold]

good guess may be to acquire some BS BPCs for ships ppl are using. I brought my own and it has been very handy (hope to have my 3rd mael build soon  )

*nod* about the modules, T2 stuff too

[peo]

We should check the price difference between some of the non mined fuelstuffs.
Any spare room should be filled with that.

[Warcold]

say that we rent the JF for it's full cargo bay (250-300k m3) what would be an acceptable price to pay for that?

[peo]

The fuelcosts themselves would be around 30m if my calculations are correct based in EH prices.
Then some profit/risk payment for the pilot.

edit:
So 40-50m in total fee?

[Warcold]

Ok, I had my talk with DarthKarroow. See below. Dont laugh about my German, it sucks.

Seems we can haul a LOT of stuff, cause full cargo is 345k m³.
Looks like he doesnt really want pay, xept for fuel (about 40k nitro and 1500 liquid ozone to be delivered together with cargo), but I'd say we give him some extra anyhoo.
He jumps to/from pashanai, I have no idea where that is, so that sucks a bit.

Forgot to ask about the other way (moonmins), but guess that wont be a prob.

I'd say we do it, and if Mang/Thera could haul any big stuff that we want moved, that would be great.

?[ 2009.06.02 14:42:47 ] DarthKarroow > do you speak german ?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:42:53 ] Safran Foer > very little
?[ 2009.06.02 14:42:59 ] DarthKarroow > ok
?[ 2009.06.02 14:43:10 ] DarthKarroow > how many m³ have u to courier to pnq?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:43:48 ] Safran Foer > we might want to rent a full cargo
?[ 2009.06.02 14:43:51 ] Safran Foer > depends on cost
?[ 2009.06.02 14:44:20 ] DarthKarroow > also full means 345k m³ max. courier
?[ 2009.06.02 14:44:37 ] Safran Foer > initially we just wanted BPCs moved, but plans changed
?[ 2009.06.02 14:44:51 ] Safran Foer > what would that cost? full?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:45:21 ] DarthKarroow > a full (max. 345k m³) cost 40000 Nitrogen plus 1500 Liqud Ozone
?[ 2009.06.02 14:45:56 ] Safran Foer > kubinen - Z30
?[ 2009.06.02 14:45:59 ] Safran Foer > that would be ideal
?[ 2009.06.02 14:46:35 ] Safran Foer > we figured about 30M in fuel cost, with 20M for your trouble, so 50M?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:46:38 ] DarthKarroow > the main route is PNQ -> Ogaria -> Beke -> Pashanai and then rerouting to Ogaria -> AL8
?[ 2009.06.02 14:47:03 ] Safran Foer > ugh, what regions are those?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:47:11 ] Safran Foer > near what hisec regions?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:47:45 ] Safran Foer > we have a cyno generator at our pos, so if you would make one extra jump that would be perfect
?[ 2009.06.02 14:48:13 ] DarthKarroow > hold a sec... your stuff is where? in kubinen? and it need coouriering to z30?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:48:33 ] Safran Foer > well, we havent gathered our stuff yet
?[ 2009.06.02 14:48:45 ] Safran Foer > it is mainly in Citadel, near jita really
?[ 2009.06.02 14:49:06 ] DarthKarroow > the main logistic point in empire is Pashanai at Station 3-2
?[ 2009.06.02 14:49:28 ] DarthKarroow > from there is jumping to ogaria and al8 from there to other points
?[ 2009.06.02 14:49:38 ] Safran Foer > ok
?[ 2009.06.02 14:49:57 ] Safran Foer > we are just figuring out if you would like to do it and what the possibilities are
?[ 2009.06.02 14:50:14 ] Safran Foer > so i will have to do some talking in corp
?[ 2009.06.02 14:50:34 ] Safran Foer > will have to arrange a freighter to haul stuff to pashanai then
?[ 2009.06.02 14:51:05 ] DarthKarroow > have you in your corp a german speaking player?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:51:10 ] Safran Foer > no sorry
?[ 2009.06.02 14:51:16 ] Safran Foer > what dont you understand?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:51:16 ] DarthKarroow > ok np
?[ 2009.06.02 14:51:29 ] Safran Foer > i will try in my 2 year highschool german  :s
?[ 2009.06.02 14:51:54 ] DarthKarroow > well i understand most of english but not all so that im thinking and thinking what you mean but at last i can ask my mates
?[ 2009.06.02 14:52:30 ] Safran Foer > ok, wir sind nicht sicher wieviel wir transported haben mussen
?[ 2009.06.02 14:52:37 ] Safran Foer > lol
?[ 2009.06.02 14:52:42 ] Safran Foer > man this is pathetic 
?[ 2009.06.02 14:52:49 ] DarthKarroow > ok also a standard fly 345k m³ max. do cost 37k Nittrogen Isoptopes and 1500 ozone for the JB
?[ 2009.06.02 14:52:55 ] Safran Foer > ich muss mit corp sprechen
?[ 2009.06.02 14:52:57 ] DarthKarroow >
?[ 2009.06.02 14:53:46 ] Safran Foer > ok, und wenn es 50% von space ist, costs sind 50% also?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:54:10 ] DarthKarroow > standard means: pnq - ogaria - beke - through gate: pashanai - ogaria - al8 - pnq
?[ 2009.06.02 14:54:48 ] Safran Foer > ok, und kanst du von al8 nach z30 jumpen?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:54:56 ] Safran Foer > wir haben cyno gen da
?[ 2009.06.02 14:55:37 ] DarthKarroow > if i can't get full re jumping ... the costs are same, but i manage that if my corp or another corp in ally need stuff to travel
?[ 2009.06.02 14:55:44 ] DarthKarroow > full jf = better
?[ 2009.06.02 14:55:57 ] Safran Foer > ok
?[ 2009.06.02 14:55:59 ] DarthKarroow > yes i can jump per beacon to z30 its np
?[ 2009.06.02 14:56:22 ] Safran Foer > ok, cool
?[ 2009.06.02 14:56:51 ] Safran Foer > ich soll mit meine corp sprechen and wir wollen sehen wieviel cargo wir haben
?[ 2009.06.02 14:56:58 ] Safran Foer > machen sie viel jumps?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:57:36 ] DarthKarroow > its differenz from month to month
?[ 2009.06.02 14:57:49 ] DarthKarroow > yesterday over 1mio. m³ to couriering to fountain
?[ 2009.06.02 14:58:05 ] DarthKarroow > that was 4-5 jumps^^
?[ 2009.06.02 14:58:13 ] Safran Foer > so wann wir in 3 oder 5 oder 7 tagen cargo haben, ich kann du mailen und wir sprechen uber wenn, wo, und wieviel?
?[ 2009.06.02 14:58:48 ] Safran Foer > also, wo ist teutlich
?[ 2009.06.02 14:59:03 ] Safran Foer > panshanai
?[ 2009.06.02 14:59:03 ] DarthKarroow > ok u can buy the nitrogen and bring it to pashanai its better as isk
?[ 2009.06.02 14:59:13 ] DarthKarroow > Pashanai
?[ 2009.06.02 14:59:16 ] Safran Foer > ok, cool
?[ 2009.06.02 14:59:18 ] DarthKarroow > Station 3-2
?[ 2009.06.02 14:59:19 ] Safran Foer > whatever 
?[ 2009.06.02 14:59:22 ] Safran Foer > ok
?[ 2009.06.02 14:59:33 ] DarthKarroow > thats our main logistic place
?[ 2009.06.02 14:59:35 ] Safran Foer > i will mail you when we are done
?[ 2009.06.02 14:59:38 ] Safran Foer > /emote nods
?[ 2009.06.02 14:59:53 ] DarthKarroow >
?[ 2009.06.02 15:00:02 ] Safran Foer > ok, danke sehr, wir wollen du mailen, soon
?[ 2009.06.02 15:00:20 ] Safran Foer > and sorry for the crappy german  _
?[ 2009.06.02 15:00:40 ] DarthKarroow > np
?[ 2009.06.02 15:01:07 ] Safran Foer > tschuss! 
?[ 2009.06.02 15:01:33 ] DarthKarroow > cu 07

[Warcold]

to recap even more:
- when we dont get a full load, cost will be same, unless he can find more stuff to move
- this is your chance to get modules, ships, BPO/BPCs etc to fountain!
- as soon as we have our stuff in order and at right place we can mail this guy and then we should have our stuff moved pretty soon (within few days i guess). if we want it to go fast, we just rent his full cargo, regardless of how much stuff we want moved.

[Mangala]

Genesis.

[Warcold]

how bad is that?

and what do you think about this all?

[peo]

Sounds fair enough to me.
It is about 15 jumps between Jita and Pashanai so while annoying not impossible.

Given the size we can fit 6.9 packaged BS in the JF. That would (assuming 6 BS) leave 45k m3 to fill which is 2-3 hauls with a indy so easily enough filled with stuff.
People that have ships they need moved should say so and move them by their own steam to pash, after we know how many ships needs to be moved we should fill the rest of the space with modules and/or pos fuel like enriched uranium (if nothing else we can sell it on the market to pay for the haul).

[Warcold]

What IMHO would have priority over ships is the POS module Tyr would like to bring. He is thinking about joining MAADI and can do T2 research and stuff, so furry nice!
No clue how big these things are.

Also, BS BPCs dont cost that much, so ppl who want BSs in fountain are highly advised to bring BPCs too. Think we have most BPs up to battlecruiser now. Esp after the move.