Hands of Justice
What we have played => EVE Online => Topic started by: Rubino on March 20, 2009, 02:49:06 PM
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We have the following capabilities for transfer between Empire and 0.0.
Carrier:
Ship Capacity (all ship types): 1M m3
Cargo Capacity: N/A fuel only for the carrier
Corp Hanger: 10k m3
Rorqual:
Ship Capacity (Mining and industrial ships only): 1M m3
Cargo Capacity: 100k m3
Corp Hanger: 30k m3
The Ship Capacity is for assembled ships only - the cargo/corp hanger can take assembled or unassembled ships.
Fuel
Carrier (Nitrogen Isotopes):
Total one-way travel distance: 32.93ly. You will need 16,461 isotopes (2,469 m3) for this journey with your skills.
This does not include the fuel for 3 activations of the cynosural field generator.
Rorqual (Oxygen Isotopes):
Total one-way travel distance: 38.91ly. You will need 19,451 isotopes (2,918 m3) for this journey with your skills.
This does not include the fuel for 4 activations of the cynosural field generator.
I'm happy to do personal trips with notice - but I'd prefer that you supply the fuel than the ISK.
For me it's simpler - it means I don't have to hunt & haul for it. Generally isotopes are around 300 isk/pu.
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Thanks for this - will stop me asking every time I forget :D
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Something that could be good to know is how much one haul costs in jumpfuel (and some compensation for you rub as it is you doing all the work, wish I could help...)
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Updated the first post :)
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kk matey ill load some fuel into my hanger in Kubinen next time i JC down ;)
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Running the carrier between Fountain and Kubinen today.
There will be at least 2 runs - maybe a 3rd in the Rorqual (see ship carrying restrictions above).
If you've any loot/items you wish shipped to Empire - then be at the POS in Z30 and you can drop them into the corp hangers.
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Eventually when i get back to playing properly im going to have a rather large quantity of various bits to transfer to 0.0
A couple of question for you Rub (sorry if these are answered elsewhere but I havent had the time to look through anything at present and I have an awfull feeling that alot of my initial time when i get back will be spent trawling all our forum posts and my character mail boxes to get all the info together for me to be able to inwardly digest ::) ).
1. Will I be able to hire you and your Rorq for a collect and deliver trip from Kubinen to our base in 0.0?
2. Are ships in the Rorqs Hanger able to be loaded with gear or is it only ammo / crystal etc for any weapons they have?
3. Will you have room in it for me to be able to load a clone of each of my characters? (If so is it something i need to do / be online for?)
Thats it for now ;D
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1) Yep (details in the first post)
2) Only charges in the cargo of ships - the Rorqual can carry more GSC's than the Carrier - but the carrier can carry more types of ships
3) Yep and Yep. You'll need to be in gang and I'll invite you to install a JC - then you protect me for 5 mins while the clone bay is active and dock. You can then CJ as usual
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Ta ;D
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Contracted the first of my rigged BS to you, no rush on moving it obviously.
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Contracted the first of my rigged BS to you, no rush on moving it obviously.
Any idea when this and the other things I contracted around the same time will hit the POS?
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With the heat at the mo I've been distracted with other things - should be there in the next couple of days.
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With the heat at the mo I've been distracted with other things - should be there in the next couple of days.
Righty oh, in that case I shall log on later and jump back to empire and sort more ships to be moved :D
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I'll try and have a medium sized batch of stuff ready for wednesday Rub, including all those skill books you asked me to sort out for the corp - can be added to whatevers left in the office stash in MN no doubt.
I'll probably bring more af's, more covops, and a few t1 stuff as well as another eagle. All bar 2 of which wont be rigged ;)
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So, umm, would there be room for a Hulk on the Wednesday trip (if there will be one then, that is)? I guess I might as well mine in 0.0 now that the Hulk is fitted somewhat better?
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Depending how hot Kubinen & the jump systems are - there will be multiple runs.
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Cans, mining ships, haulers, ammo, skillbooks, BP's and crystals have been shipped to Fountain and are at the POS.
As is Admirals JC. I also brought a few small ships that could fit into the cargo hold.
I don't think anything got mixed up - Odins Hulk has the ammo for him.
The combat ships will come on the next trip as it needs the Carrier.
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Excellent - now all I have to do is remember whats contracted by me to you so far. 1 rokh, 1 rigged bestower (hauler), 1 or 2 eagles (cant recall) and a few af's maybe?
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The bestower made it this time. I claimed the Rokh but it won't make it until the next run (only had 2 days on the contract).
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1003222
Guy offers a service to and from 0.0 to hisec using a JF.
I know theres an alliance guy who does this, but we dont have a regular schedule and he likes to dump things in PNQY-Y. And even with ice fuel we arent able to fill the thing to get him to come to Z3 and drop off for us. And plus I dont trust our alliance that much :)
The guy offering this service, while not going to Z3 (he only does station to station), can do it on the fly and doesnt need a full JF to do it. Yes its to a station system in 0.0 but needs must.
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For those who'll say we have a carrier coming online soon or a JF readying too - this is for the interim, while those things happen and we get a handle on how exactly this works (with regards to cynoing and so on), as its something Ive never had to do.
Just as an aside - here is the IDEAL route a Rhea with 5/4/4 has to take to get to YZ:
http://www.eve-icsc.com/jumptools/jumpplanner.php?ship=Rhea&jdc=5&jfc=4&jf=4&stations=only&fromsystem=Pashanai&waypoints0=YZ-LQL
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Can he do it in fountain?? Doubt he is blue to anyone there.
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Can he do it in fountain?? Doubt he is blue to anyone there.
I'll be asking him when I speak/evemail him. Not posting on the EVE-O with such a question.
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Can he do it in fountain?? Doubt he is blue to anyone there.
I'll be asking him when I speak/evemail him. Not posting on the EVE-O with such a question.
OFC
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Sidenote:
Jump Drive calibration to V is probably rare to have, 42 day skill for me :)
Also isn't u-soh2 jammed?
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I am not sure about U-S, while we no longer have access to the area the rest is a mystery to me.
As said, I'll be looking out for the guy to speak with him, as it maybe that the jump planner shows the fastest route, but he may have to take a different route to do this - given the potential jamming in U-S.
Either way, its a bit of a learning experience as to how these things work for us :D
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True :)
u-s is also one of the main PL const sov systems. So a neutral in that system would probably even if there isn't a cyno jammer there be killed nigh on instantly.
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We have an office in aguallores. With my KASEI member Thera soon to be in a JF, im thinking to jump her to solitude when I get her one and use solitide as a transfer point for gear.
http://www.eve-icsc.com/jumptools/jumpplanner.php?ship=Rhea&jdc=4&jfc=4&jf=4&fromsystem=Agaullores&waypoints0=pnqy-y&waypoints1=Z30S-A
Only an interim hop to PNQY for the MAADI pilots to get around if they are in a rhea going to Z3 :)
Im going the solitide route as overall it lives up to its name, fucking quiet! lowsec there is usually empty or just people passing thru. Angarak is in the region and will become my cyno bitch and safe spot maker for all this too. Good thing with this region, lots of hisec we could move the jf into if we need to for whatever reason.
I'll update this post when I find a route to Aguallores from empire in a JF :)
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Or:
http://www.eve-icsc.com/jumptools/jumpplanner.php?ship=Rhea&jdc=4&jfc=4&jf=4&fromsystem=Itrin&waypoints0=Ogaria&waypoints1=PNQY-Y&waypoints2=Z30S-A
KASEI does the Itrin to Ogaria route in the JF thera may have soon, and then MAADI pilots do Ogaria to PNQYY to Z3 in a chimera or a JF of own?
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I will have the JF and Jump Drive Calibration skills at 3 in about 30 days unless i get distracted a lot on the way(training jump skills help the Chimera as well). Also got a Rhea sitting in Jita until i am able to pilot it. I will most likely leave those 2 skills at lvl 3 for a while as one takes 6 days and the other 10 to get to lvl 4..
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I have made arrangements with Darthkarroow to transfer the roughly 100k m3 of stuff we have sitting at Pashanai in its deliveries tab to 0.0 either tomorrow/Friday.
So please keep an eye on alliance chat for him or Noemy asking for one us :D
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Delivery has deen done, lots of ice fuel products in the deliveries tab, along with some cynosaural field theory books and lots of bpcs in cans, including a carrier bpc - EDIT: All at PNQY-Y.
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I'll look into moving it to mn5 tomorrow. If we want to be very safe with the bpc's we should probably jump them ;)
Either from al8 and have a smaller ship transport the jb there and jump from that or use the carrier the entire way hehe :)
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Moved the bpcs - all now in MN5 :)
Just fuel left to move from pinky.
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Looking at the Jump planner it would be possible to go from Z30/MN5 trough Hophib with a JF or trough Ertoo with a Carrier with Jump Drive Calibration 3 and Jump Freighter 3 to get out of Fountain without touching any EZ, SOT or PL systems that might be cynojammed. These are also npc space so no worrying about other alliances taking sov and putting up a jammer either(but for all i know they could be heavy infected by player pirates). What would then be the best lowsec system to aim for to use as a close to highsec base?
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Looking at the Jump planner it would be possible to go from Z30/MN5 trough Hophib with a JF or trough Ertoo with a Carrier with Jump Drive Calibration 3 and Jump Freighter 3 to get out of Fountain without touching any EZ, SOT or PL systems that might be cynojammed. These are also npc space so no worrying about other alliances taking sov and putting up a jammer either(but for all i know they could be heavy infected by player pirates). What would then be the best lowsec system to aim for to use as a close to highsec base?
Pashanai is quite decent, a bit far from jita (15 jumps or so). It is high sec for the JF, the carrier would in that case base in a neighboring system. (beke or Leran).
Seems to be the common route for the alliance and I think they have poses in some waypoint systems that could be possible to use. (safer than a station I guess).
The question is how far from jita do we want/need to be with the logistics base?
I would in general avoid hophib, lots of reds base there. As for cyno jammed systems, I think that cha2 and al8 is clear of it some of them also have cyno beacons (not sure how they work).
I'm not sure but when PL made the sov4 constellation they said something that it was offlimits for everything but use as a jump point, would of course have to dig that out.
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Ideally route yourself through agauallores in solitude, we have an office there :)
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With my current skills i was thinking about using Agaullores and Oruse or something near. However when i finish jump drive calibration 4 on monday i was thinking something in the line of this:
http://www.eve-icsc.com/jumptools/jumpplanner.php?ship=Rhea&jdc=4&jfc=3&jf=2&fromsystem=Pashanai&waypoints0=Ogaria&waypoints1=AL8-V4&waypoints2=Z30S-A&waypoints3=
Cuts it down to 4 jumps. To use Agaullores this way would require calibration 5 or a cyno between pash and agau.
Got both Dlarah and a new cyno alt in Agaullores now. Just need to move some fuel from a nearby system and they can light cynos.
Al8 and Z30 should only require scouts as there is a Cyno generator in both systems.
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Get a decent bit of syno fuel to agaullores, as Angaraka has cyno 4 soon, so can help too.
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Lots of stuff has hit pnqyy today.
Saf i think i got all your stuff moved to your personal hangar there. Annoy me if Im wrong :D
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For the future, when we can bug noj ;), maybe we should make a schedule that fits him?
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Hmm, does that mean that if you were right, I cant annoy you anymore? :'(
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A schedule could be a little tricky with my changing work hours. Usually it could probably happen within 2-3 days after a trip is requested, but it could get more depending on how crowded the route is when i am online.
After finishing work tomorrow at 8pm my vacation starts however. So the next 3 weeks after that most days should be doable. :)
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A schedule could be a little tricky with my changing work hours. Usually it could probably happen within 2-3 days after a trip is requested, but it could get more depending on how crowded the route is when i am online.
After finishing work tomorrow at 8pm my vacation starts however. So the next 3 weeks after that most days should be doable. :)
Ok, just wanted to make it easier on you :)
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I just finished my shopping. The JF will be heading towards Pashanai and then later Fountain, but there is still about 100k m3 of cargohold aviable. If anyone got something they want moved from Highsec to Fountain you got until tomorrows downtime to either trade it to me in jita or leave it at corp hangar in Pashanai III moon 9 and send a evemail to Noj Dlarah saying what you want moved. :)
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After you guys scaring me with silly plans, I'm not sure I still want to transport stuff THAT way :-\
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After you guys scaring me with silly plans, I'm not sure I still want to transport stuff THAT way :-\
Why?
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atm, the less stuff i got in Fountain, the better
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atm, the less stuff i got in Fountain, the better
Ok, I don't think there will be a large change in the alliance for the next 6 months or so. I just think people should be prepared and have a healty dose of paranoia about our masters.
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I will be leaving most of my stuff at MN5 until i feel safer. It is npc space so nobody can take sov and take away your docking rights or cynojam the system. Getting stuff out shouldnt be too hard as long as you do it when nobody else is in local.
Both the JF and the Carrier can jump out of MN5 into Aridia or Solitude without touching another system in fountain if needed. :)
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Do we have answers about our Z30- and other POSs already?
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Do we have answers about our Z30- and other POSs already?
The 7-8 pos yes, red pimp has no problem with it as long as we don't claim sov.
Z30 only deridas answer that nothing has changed and same goes for c1x, if PL comes saying something well we have to tell derida and so on.
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My guess is that if PL is going to say something, it will be > Aug 31st and they will let guns do the talking.
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By the looks of things the change was mostly about the PL guys that were dealing with renters got fed up by the drama caused when some renters would take sov and feel that they were now boss of that system and could tell other renters to stay away.
Event Horizon seems to be pretty much untouched by this. Not sure why but i guss for now they are considered a pet alliance of PL and i dont think they are paying rent. Things could still change, but for now i am willing to risk a few ships.
I would still be ready to move my shit out on short notice but tbh this is probably something one should be prepared for in 0.0 as you never know when someone resets all standings or some other alliance gets bored enough to invade.
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Aye, true.
But me not having things (transport) in my own hands makes me jittery.
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Aye, true.
But me not having things (transport) in my own hands makes me jittery.
Train carriers ;)
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sure, within 20 months or so :-\
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Noj if you are having trouble lighting cynos in some systems ask the alliance if they are able to help (they have what I'd term cyno poses along a route from Pash/beke to PNQY).
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Noj if you are having trouble lighting cynos in some systems ask the alliance if they are able to help (they have what I'd term cyno poses along a route from Pash/beke to PNQY).
I think the main problem is people in the systems with stations between pash and al8.
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I had hoped to be able to cyno next to a station in solitude as thats the safest way and in fountain there is a pos in al8 with a cynogen. But right now Exxxotic and Zinc alliance are in the systems with stations in solitude. It looks like at least 1, but more often 3+ is there every time i check it out. I think both are blue to us but i know some people would shoot on blues if it was outside fountain. I am not really interested in gambling with a 4.2bill ship. :)
There is one system nearby that looks like it is quiet most of the time. No stations so i will have to cynojump in and hope i can either get to next stop or warp to a safespot before anyone show up. I might end up doing this instead.
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We can almost fill the JF with moon goo :)
A quick estimate put the chrom, caes and prom at 280k m3 (and has a good value in total as well) so would be good if it could be moved to empire soon.
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Moon goo and some zydrine + megacyte now moved to corp hangars in Pashanai. about 300k m3 of stuff so its either lotsa trips with haulers or Mang could use his non MAADI freighter to move it without worrying about the 3-man corp war. :)
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I can do that later if needed :D
Regards the 2 carriers - can we jump them closer to empire at some stage? Heck as far as Leran would be good maybe for a while (probably best to jump them following that towards forge/citadel lowsec (better markets than genesis)).
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Running Thera to Pash now ;)
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What needs moving to jita by the way?
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Noj - can you jump the carriers back towards empire at your earliest convenience?
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Moon goo is in deliveres in Jita if someone wants to market it - I would but Mangs sales slots are filled (41 of them!)!
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Next move from MN5 to Pash will be Tuesday. Later if theres too many reds around.
Ill try to get the carriers moved as well over the week.
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Ive contracted all my rigged ships to you as an item contract Noj - volume of courier get changing randomly so I gave up doing it that way :)
And one or two final couriers.
That'll be me shifted personal gear wise out of fountain. I'll be jumping back and forth ofc to aid with corp withdrawal etc over time.
Also transferred carriers to your personal hangar for you to move etc (and for extra security on them).
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If possible keep a cheap ship you can use with to scout al8 just incase you are only one online when i do trips. :)
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If possible keep a cheap ship you can use with to scout al8 just incase you are only one online when i do trips. :)
I'll grab an ibis :D
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That works :)
I just need a scout there when going trough.
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Latest contracts have been completed. Corp, Saf, Eiwen and Mang got stuff waiting in their personal hangars at Pashanai III - Moon 9 station.
Mangala: Your ships was contracted back to you in Leran.
The spare Chimera is stationed at my hangars in Leran and could either be moved later or sold there.
If anyone want stuff that can fit in a giant secure container moved from Pash to anttiri or jita, make a courier contract to Elminda Meloy and make destination either Anttiri V - Moon 6 or That station everyone visit in Jita.
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I finally got around to finishing your courier contract Temon. You got your stuff in Jita now.
Corp and Hrod got items waiting for them at Pash.
I will accept the contract from Linnea when i get to MN5 again.
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Just an FYI, dont take any of the tower modules etc for now :)