Hands of Justice
What we have played => EVE Online => Topic started by: Mangala on February 05, 2009, 06:39:06 AM
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The Mittani (Goon) is aking credit for what is possibly the biggest event in EVE's history of late!
Band of Brothers (Closed) from Unknown to 2009.02.05
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=990381&sid=130440321
http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=23418
director level spy closed the alliance
goodbye
-> sov 1/2/3/4
-> large amount of BNC assets
-> jump bridges
-> jammers
-> standings
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:o If I understand this right, one helluva of a crap-storm will be seen :-X
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Never expected to see BoB dissapear from the landscape...
They will probably just get a new name and continue... but it will still be strange not to see BoB on the sovereignty map.
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wow
Due to the time it takes sov to build up - does this mean everybody will move in to grab some space?
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wow
Due to the time it takes sov to build up - does this mean everybody will move in to grab some space?
LOL... got plans?
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wow
Due to the time it takes sov to build up - does this mean everybody will move in to grab some space?
LOL... got plans?
Lets invade "bob" space :P
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I wonder what will happen now. As far as I understand, the indivudal corporations are still there, "just" the alliance gone? Ie, aren't the corps there in position to start claiming the territory as soon as they get "BoB Mk.II" up? Or will other alliances really be able to claim the area before that?
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Somebody has already made an alliance to reserve the "Band Of Brothers" name - although it's not a BOB member :)
They lost sov - and it'll take 30-60 days to build up I think to reach ownership level. Not sure what this means for their outposts. Worst case they are now attackable by others - and hence claimable.
This will be interesting to watch: http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancechart.asp?FilterType=Alliance&FilterBy=BOB
Thier towers will now use about 25% more fuel - which means many borderline towers will go offline - which will make them easier to destroy - although you'll need dreads to take out the online towers.
Gonna be interesting.
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Goons are claiming insider job! (Meta-Gaming)
BoB is claiming EVE Bug. (Bill not being recieved)
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http://reversegaming.com/welp/mittens.mp3
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http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/0902/mittani.mp3
sounds like BoB imploded - so rather than an infiltration it was like POTUS giving Iran the launch codes.
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NOL-M9 - A few hours after midnight on 05.02.111, Band of Brothers alliance was disbanded. The loss of formal alliance status forcibly relinquished all Band of Brothers held sovereignty, and thus is expected to render all their outposts vulnerable, abort the construction of all motherships and titans currently being built in their capital assembly arrays and interfere with the proper fuctioning of cynojammers and jump bridge waystations at their control towers.
CCP official :)
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Damn - I'd love for us to be there and grab an outpost
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And Sesfan has returned .. it's like the End Times.
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Keep your eyes open for the 4 horsemen!
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Damn - I'd love for us to be there and grab an outpost
So lets go there then ;)
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You need to be in an alliance to claim an outpost.
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http://starbucks.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/36/365cb9ba3a7e4a2c09df92fccb6f3c147c07de6d.jpg
:-)
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URL forbidden :S
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Influence map has been updated:
(http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png)
Should be archieved for posterity
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More pretty pics/graphs and details of what Bob has lost: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Band_of_Brothers/changes
Something along the lines of 34 outposts now up for grabs with a construction cost of around 544 billion isk (based on 16b/outpost)
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More pretty pics/graphs and details of what Bob has lost: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Band_of_Brothers/changes
Something along the lines of 34 outposts now up for grabs with a construction cost of around 544 billion isk (based on 16b/outpost)
Wish we could get our hands on one of them :)
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I actually feel like a large peice of what made eve, eve has been diminished by this occuring. For good or Bad, BoB where the majority of players "big bad", they had an affect on the landscape of this game like no other - baring RA and their resurgence after LV nearly wiped them from the face of EVE.
Still certainly interesting what has gone on!
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More on Kugusts:
http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?t=3604
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lol - posted by a goonie on one of the CAOD threads:
oh hay sup
http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/294678
http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/294662
"nah we dont need to stront towers in a sov 4! WE ARE BOB!!"
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Aye - but 0.0 needed something like this to break the NRDS.
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Aye - but 0.0 needed something like this to break the NRDS.
The North should have imploded then ;)
If this causes wars like no other then I want a part of it, if it doesnt and just causes a shifting of big groups controlled regions, then meh.
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I actually feel like a large peice of what made eve, eve has been diminished by this occuring. For good or Bad, BoB where the majority of players "big bad", they had an affect on the landscape of this game like no other - baring RA and their resurgence after LV nearly wiped them from the face of EVE.
Still certainly interesting what has gone on!
This is like that bit in starwars where they blow up the first Death Star ... you think the rebel alliance have won .. but there's still a war to go ...
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Yup - RKK, BNC (well lol maybe!) and the other former BoB corps still have people to fight and territory to reclaim (should they wish to try). Eve just got more interesting is the big point I have I suppose.
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It made it to Shacknews:
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/57098
C&P for those who cant get that site or whatever:
In what may be the most significant case of in-game espionage in history, one of the largest guild of players in CCP's spaceship MMO EVE Online, Band of Brothers (BoB), was entirely disbanded today when a BoB director defected to the SomethingAwful-derived Goonfleet.
In a story that only EVE Online could spawn, Goonfleet Intelligence Agency (GSA) leader The Mittani and his league of spies managed to "encourage" a Band of Brothers director to turn coat, transferring trillions of BoB's in-game ISK currency to the Goons before nullifying BoB's control over all of its territory.
"A director with full access to BoB alliance controls defected to Goonfleet and The Mittani was happy to accept his conditions," writes Shacknews tipster Frylock, who noted that while BoB can reform, the name "Band of Brothers" is now permanently owned by Goonfleet.
Shacknews readers may remember The Mittani from our 2007 article series on his expansive, fascinating spy network. At the time, Band of Brothers was already the Goons' larger, more powerful arch-rivals. Now the Goons, long the underdogs in their fight for universal dominance, are gloating over a massive victory. Meanwhile, The Mittani himself was the first to deliver the news to EVE Online's official forum.
"Today we destroyed BoB," said The Mittani. "Thanks for the free capfleet towers and isk."
The Mittani added that the defection also produced a copy of the Band of Brothers director forum, which Goonfleet plans to publish in full.
"Tonight was one of the most historic and epic nights in EVE history," added Frylock. "The universe will no longer be the same."
Band of Brothers was the primary target in The Great War, in which many of EVE's larger corporations formed a coalition in order to oust BoB from its territory. After a long and bloody struggle, BoB eventually retained much of its space, with Goonsfleet being the last member of the coalition to eventually withdraw.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4diQEwrjv8&feature=related
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You'll see a bunch rush in to grab a piece of the pie, lots of action in Delve and then others push into the poorly defended of those that rushed in.
If the north push down the west or try for a piece of Bob space then it may be enough for the north may fragment. Either way 0.0 is gonna shift a lot.
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http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=990911
EVE Radio interviewed Dianabolic (RKK Director) about this - will be aired tonight.
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And as it turns out Haargorth wasnt a spy.
This was his way of saying "FUCK YOU BOB". Quite epic indeed.
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Love the fallout of this incident :)
Always the way when things get too large they will implode.
Lets not go down that road, eh ;)
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And as it turns out Haargorth wasnt a spy.
This was his way of saying "FUCK YOU BOB". Quite epic indeed.
What did they do to him??
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From what I understand, he became disillusioned. He's been a part of the GBC in one way or another for a few years (was in FIX before BNC) and wasnt happy with certain things.
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Holy crapshoot .... 29 kills with my name on, probably another 40-50 in the time I was there ... the camps are still hot and Delve's ablaze.
I love the smell of burning promethium in the morning ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejtoblLRogI
http://img.waffleimages.com/847ae8fd5aa7db80349399ef3b978805bc7a03b0/knockknockjoke.gif
http://funkybacon.eve-radio.com/mittani.mp3
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=991219
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BNC and RKK have joined/created an alliance called Kenzoku. Small step but got to start somewhere.
The coming week or two will both be epic for fights and for seeing if they manage to pick themselves back up. Best thing would be for them to NOT try and retake all their former regions, but focus on staring small - just like last year when Delve got invaded and lots of their enemies got food poisoning in Nol.
Nice video Vac - gets used for so much, but particularly epic this time :)
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The eve-maps sov won/lost list has finally been updated: http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/sovchange.asp
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Yesterday's killboard of Goonswarm http://www.eve-kb.com/view.php?type=alliance&name=GoonSwarm&kill_tab=yesterday (http://www.eve-kb.com/view.php?type=alliance&name=GoonSwarm&kill_tab=yesterday)
just another working day ;)
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Some of the ex-Bob corps are in a new alliance: Kenzoku.
Looking at the post DT map in eve - they have sov some systems from the corps existing towers.
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More importantly that RRK & BNC in Kenzoku as I posted this morning - what are DICE and EVOL (SireMolle's) corps up to.
Molle hasnt posted much more on EVEO than a link to their FULL forums (haargorth didnt get it all) before taking it down again when they realised that.
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http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png (http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png)
How did KenZoku gain all this sov so fast?
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The corps had towers up already - so when they joined the alliance - all that was needed was a DT for the sov to start gaining ground.
When I checked yesterday they had gained sov in around 50% of the systems they controlled before.
With "gold-rush" fever that's going on - it's going to be interesting to watch what happens.
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The corps had towers up already - so when they joined the alliance - all that was needed was a DT for the sov to start gaining ground.
When I checked yesterday they had gained sov in around 50% of the systems they controlled before.
With "gold-rush" fever that's going on - it's going to be interesting to watch what happens.
Will they be able to defend what they have regained :)
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Hard question to answer. They lost a lot of resources and their main routes to empire.
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Looks like EXE did what any good pet does and gave up space to their masters...
(http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20090206.png)
Theyve lost some of their former holdings in Period Basis with Kenzoku gaining them - in addition to the gains Rub mentioned.
Meanwhile in the south - Goonspace shrinking further?
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It's unclear whether it should or should not have worked that way. According to the documentation (hah!) if you leave an alliance or it is disbanded, sovereignty is reset AND will take 7 days to register again. Obviously this isn't the case, but neither side is making a fuss about it because we've known it to not be the case for a while. :ccp:
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It's unclear whether it should or should not have worked that way. According to the documentation (hah!) if you leave an alliance or it is disbanded, sovereignty is reset AND will take 7 days to register again. Obviously this isn't the case, but neither side is making a fuss about it because we've known it to not be the case for a while. :ccp:
KB hasnt been updated since Cruise Kestrels days which says alot really ;)
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Via boingboing, The EVE Upset (http://www.raphkoster.com/2009/02/11/the-eve-upset/).
Lots of folks lose their livelihoods when an empire falls, and players invested in BoB are likely upset that years of work were lost. But EVE is not a game about the height of the Roman Empire. It’s a game about the sacking of Rome by barbarians, so that they can become the next short-lived top dog. BoB existed to be torn down, and anyone who dreams of permanent glory in a game like that should understand that their destiny is to be taken down by the next upstart, in a dog-eat-dog world.
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Ouch Vac, what is happening to the Goons? KenZoku seems stable, but Goons losing sov FAST!
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They are upping sticks and moving to Delve themselves I understand. Giving Kenny a real fight to keep the sov they have. Should have hit Sov 1 today after DT iirc too.
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Really surprised goon haven't grabbed more space in Delve - if anything they appear to be reinforcing their current regions according to the latest influence map: http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png
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Haven't grabbed more? Have they grabbed any?
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The influence map doesn't show any - but last time I checked in-game - they had some in delve and some in the region to the right of delve. I wonder if they're setting up jump bridges to delve from their current base of ops.
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Just looked in game - nothing for Sov or Const Sov for Goons (or allies) in Delve, Period Basis or Querious now.
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It takes 7 days.
So basically as of tomorrow/Saturday we should start seeing Goon sov gain.
Which is why Kenny's trying hard to put towers into siege today ... :)
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Ah - that's true - I'd forgotten that new-comers have the 7 day period.
Shame it didn't work both ways for ex-Bob!
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The Goon conquest of Delve has started: http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/all.asp?FilterType=Alliance&FilterBy=OHGOD
3 Outposts already :)
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Sovereignty is key - in the past week we've killed over 100 BoB towers, and put down way more ourselves. We have a lot of hard work ahead ... but in the end, oh my god, we will kill Kenny.
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Sovereignty is key - in the past week we've killed over 100 BoB towers, and put down way more ourselves. We have a lot of hard work ahead ... but in the end, oh my god, we will kill Kenny.
And what after that? :)
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THE UNIVERRRSE!!
(http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_movies_actors/film_images/Austin_Powers_Mike_Myers_as_Dr_Evil.jpg)
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And what after that? :)
We sit, fortify delve and mine for a bit, our members unsubscribe and eve calms down for a bit ... until the next turning of the wheel :)
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And what after that? :)
We sit, fortify delve and mine for a bit, our members unsubscribe and eve calms down for a bit ... until the next turning of the wheel :)
So in a few months niether kenny nor goons will exist anymore ;) (all that juicy space to take in the name of... ME!!!)
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Autnie Bee coverd it:
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7905924.stm
It's a credit crunch nightmare.
The chief executive of the world's biggest corporation gets a phone call in the middle of the night. Thanks to industrial espionage, the company has been bankrupted, assets stripped, bank accounts emptied. When trading starts the next day, even the company name will be gone.
If this were real life, the executive might consider jumping out the window. But in the online game of EVE Online, it's all part of the fun.
"It is another challenge," said Par Molen, the leader of the "corporation" Band of Brothers (BoB), who got the late-night call.
"That's what we live for."
Mr Molen and his online colleagues had spent four years building BoB into the dominant force in a game where 200,000 players battle it out in an online galaxy of spaceships and planets.
Unlike other multiplayer online games like the hugely popular World of Warcraft, which is split into smaller groups, the thousands of EVE players are in it together.
In one virtual galaxy, players build, fight, and trade, joining together to form "corporations" to gain control over sections of the huge starscape.
This creates a complex society where anything can happen, and often does. Rules are few, and all of the lying, cheating and stealing that occurs in real life can also happen in the game.
A player called "The Mittani" is the shadowy spymaster who runs dozens of agents for his corporation - GoonSwarm. He got the call of his career when a disgruntled BoB director contacted him to say that he was thinking of switching sides.
With the director's access to BoB's internal workings, the pair were able to disband the corporation and steal all the assets they could lay their hands on.
To add insult to injury, GoonSwarm then re-registered the Band of Brothers name for itself, leaving the former alliance nameless and broken.
It's a finale that has been compared to "Apple dissolving Microsoft", and led to some players calling for the game's developer, CCP, to "roll-back" the game to the previous day and cancel the change.
Screenshot from Eve Online, Atari
Eve Online is about the struggle between giant corporations
"Any one director should not have the power to destroy the work of so many people for so many months and years with two mouse clicks," wrote a player called David on an EVE-related blog.
But CCP is well-known for keeping its hands off action within the game. Since no rules were broken, the changes stood, and thousands of BoB members woke up to a very different world.
Scams in space
This is not the first time that rogue bankers and credit fraud have made EVE Online seem more like the financial pages than a space cowboy video game.
In January, a player absconded with over 80bn ISK, the game's virtual currency, from an in-game bank. Although the 80bn is only worth a few thousand pounds if exchanged for real money, it represents hours of in-game toil.
In an online echo of the real-world banking crisis, the bank's chairman issued a statement to calm a run on deposits, writing: "Dynasty Banking will get over these times and we will continue to strive to earn the public's faith as one of the leading banks of Eve Online".
Another scam on an epic scale beyond the fantasies of real conmen was perpetrated in 2006, when a player ran off with 700bn ISK from another EVE bank.
"Think of me as a space Robin Hood—steals from the rich and gives to himself," wrote the perpetrator in an EVE-related internet forum.
Such swindles left some players in awe of EVE's potential for realism, whilst others called for a stronger code of ethics in the game.
But spymaster Mittani scoffed at calls for in-game morals, noting that without dirty tricks, GoonSwarm would have had no chance of toppling a more established corporation like BoB.
He wrote: "We don't have any advantages, so we can't obey your stupid 'space bushido'. We're going to spy, we're going to use defectors, we're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastards."
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"We're going to be bastards."
;D
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For Vac (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/The-Day-BoB-Died-Mousepad-EVE-Online-Mouse-Pad_W0QQitemZ120376334982QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item120376334982&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1687%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318#ht_3371wt_909)
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Looks like Delve is being carved up nicely: http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png
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OMG!?
You bastards!
(http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png)
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Relevant given that the last few moons in Querious bearing Kenny POs's are about to or have this weekend fallen.
Imagine "remastered":
song link - http://www.cassandraslight.com/MMStuff/Imagine_Kenny.mp3
Lyrics
IMAGINE
(The Saga of BoB, Goons, Kenny, and the South)
Imagine there’s no Kenny,
It’s easy if you try,
No more ranting from SirMolle,
No more forums full of lies.
Imagine everyone in Eve,
Finally flying free.
They once were known as Band of Brothers,
PvPrs so elite,
So said their leader, Molle,
But all they really did was cheat,
Imagine everyone in Eve,
Finally flying free.
You may say I’m a dreamer,
But I can see it coming true,
Fortress Delve’s been torn up,
And all the stations I see are blue,
They said they’d torture us forever,
Max Damage was their plan,
Until a brother they called Hargoth,
Said to the Goons, “I understand,”
And so the end of BoB began,
When Hargoth pushed the button to disband,
The Goons began taking over,
The Coalition joined the fun,
We’ll keep purging every system,
Until the day our job is done.
Guy who did this is in Morhus Mihi - a major part of the Northern Coalition and yet another group who really dont like what Kenny/BoB represented.
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(http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/mmorpg-general-discussion/112974d1245172888-eve-war-thread-dinclasttitanouttasaigo.jpg)
So thats it for Kenny/Bob. Inside a week they wont have sov in 49-U6U anymore, signifying the end really bar some mopping up. They called a retreat from that system yesterday telling members and allies to get stuff out when/how you can.
Vacate your stuff.
As it is, we are playing the sacrificial lamb the whole time, we're not doing that anymore.
Pull your stuff out from 49- and Delve. Thats the standing orders. Place it safely somewhere. and we'll work from there.
Expect no ops posted for a week.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlWKNxpIXg8
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The last GKC tower in 49-U fell at roughly 3am GMT.
Its all over bar a clean up.
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The last GKC tower in 49-U fell at roughly 3am GMT.
Its all over bar a clean up.
Wonder where kenny will go now :)
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Wonder where Goons will go now...
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Wonder where Goons will go now...
Consolidate fortress Delve maybe, or attack AAA or maybe attack those now ex brosef's in RA ;)
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Consolidate, yeah, maybe for a month, but after that they either die of boredom and get overrun by someone else, or they will make the sky (space?) the limit and conquer back their old home :)
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They could try - but compared to Delve that space is poor - and given its held by AAA (One of the premier bunch of loony russian PVPers - in fact just good pvpers all round) it would be full of epic fights and Goons may be tired of pos warfare and just go riding bikes for the summer!
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i think theyll get on their bikes until the next big call to arms :)
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well, i think i remember they mentioned they might reconquer their old home after they got delve. back in the day they were leaving their home for delve that is.
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Don't think these were ever posted here, a good read about the whole war:
Part 1: http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/69645
Part 2: http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/69868