Hands of Justice
What we have played => Warhammer Online => Topic started by: Rubino on November 08, 2008, 01:36:27 AM
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For our server:
http://www.waralytics.com/warservers/view/39000
Global:
http://www.waralytics.com/warservers/index
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Nice find!
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Very interesting read..
The things that stand out for me were the number of Sorcerers...
I'm also surprised by the low numbers in Tier-4, I'd of thought a lot more players would of been 30+
One thing that wont surprise anyone is the lack of Melee-DPS in Tier-4, with 14% order compared to 21% Destro, although we have a high Ranged DPS percentage of 34% to 26%
Overall healers being the most popular in T4 is surprising too... especially when RP are among the minority in totals.. So it implies the Healers went all the way to T4, where everyone else stopped before Tier-4 and rolled an alt.
Again, really good to know.
Envicta.
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Hmm, not sure how useful the numbers are right now given the methodology that is used to collect it.
- It generates data by scanning guilds for members so non-guilded players are not counted. Given that there is no particular reason to assume that the proportion of players non-guilded differs significantly from order to chaos or between classes, this is probably not going to significantly affect the percentage figures in the long run, but early in the game's lifetime it could result in a significant variance to the degree that even a single high-level guild choosing as a policy to kick everybody inactive while another high level guild did not would result in drastically different total numbers in the T4 and Rank40 data entries. It will likely need another two or three months to become truly informative. In either case, it makes the T1 entries mostly useless. [Not that I am critical of the approach they have chosen - you have to choose something that is actually doable, after all]
- Since they count all players in a guild, mains as well as alts, actives as way as inactives, the absolute numbers are completely unreliable for talking about how many players might be active within each tier and for talking about future developments from tier to tier. As an example (our server), does 27% healers in T4 and 31% healers in T3 for order indicate that there's going to be a likely increase in the proportion of healers in T4 over the next few weeks? Does it mean that there is currently a huge amount of healers actively playing T3? Does it mean that there are a lot of abandoned healers in T3 (e.g. people giving up on WARs solo PvE in the early 20ies where they truly start sucking compared to nonhealers?) Does the 21% (rank 40) < 27% (T4) < 31% (T3) > 30% (T2) ~ 30% (T1) for healers show that, for whatever reason, healers are in a dire state after T3 (completely opposite to Envicta's interpretation :D)? What about RPDS order having a 33% (rank 40) < 34% (T4) > 32% (T3) > 30% (T2) < 32% (T1) - can we conclude that RPDS is a good place to be where people do not drop their class? Might it simply be a side effect of an early case of FotM syndrome? There's no way to know - all or some of them could be right
Don't get me wrong, I love numbers, but given the way they are collected and the timespan involved, it is very hard to conclude anything from those numbers except for the most generic of trends - the things that most players can rationalize even without having numbers on hand.
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I think he states that the guilded players in T4 & T3 are greater and therefore have less variance vs unguilded players.
I would imagine that the ratio of mains/alts is generally the same - esp at T4/T3 - getting there takes grind.
It would be interesting to have some figures on alts for both order and destro.
My observations at the lower levels is that order has many more low level alts and destro tend to max lvl their alts for the tier.
But there are lies, damn lies and stats :)
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Overall healers being the most popular in T4 is surprising too... especially when RP are among the minority in totals.. So it implies the Healers went all the way to T4, where everyone else stopped before Tier-4 and rolled an alt.
Funny, I read that exactly the opposite way. Ratio of healers decrease with ranks, and at rank 40 there are relatively fewest healers around. To me it seems about 40% of the healers *do not* go all the way to T4, but stop at T3 (possibly rolling an alt).
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I think he states that the guilded players in T4 & T3 are greater and therefore have less variance vs unguilded players.
Yep, but that is again based on overall numbers (he states an approximately 5% difference between guilded and unguilded). For a single server, given the numbers who currently have characters in T3 and T4, there may be much larger local variations (example: due to something as choices by individual guilds as to how to deal with people dropping out after the first month)
I would imagine that the ratio of mains/alts is generally the same - esp at T4/T3 - getting there takes grind.
Whereas I would imagine that T2 and T3 are the great dumping ground for "I'm bloody well fed up with this class" as well as "first month casualties". :)
So many possible assumptions and interpretations of the numbers are possible at the moment that it does not seem to make much sense to attempt to do so now unless one want to a) have fun with numbers, or b) deliberately choose numbers that can be argued to support one's position by ignoring alternative interpretations and use it in a forum discussion (I am sure that WHA forums will love this. "The numbers clearly show that <I AM RIGHT>" usage is a classic. :D
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