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What we have played => Star Wars: The Old Republic => Topic started by: Kurtt on November 29, 2011, 10:57:21 AM

Title: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on November 29, 2011, 10:57:21 AM
Now what am I going to do for the next 3 weeks?!

Got Kurtt to 19 in the end. It. Was. Epic.

Really really loved it. Space combat was ace. Quite surprised actually.

Crafting was quite deep, and it was ace how you could do it while levelling or running Flashpoints.

Ended up caving and doing Hammer Station last night, which was epic. Respeced to tank to give it a go, and Jedi Guardian really started to shine for me. I'd been DPS up until that point, and while I enjoyed the class, I wasn't seeing the synergy of it. That changed when I went tank, so I think I'll be levelling in tank spec.

PVP was ace. Huttball was amazingly good fun. Did Alderaan too, which it like AB, only miles better. Didn't get Voidstar.

Really, really looking forward to launch now. So much so, that I'm off to GAME at lunch time to preorder the Collector's Edition.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on November 29, 2011, 12:59:14 PM
i just cannot wait either. What a game. WHAT...A....GAME!

I got to Nar Shaddah before I logged. It looks just epic. Bright lights, bustling nightlife, like space soho! Theres a Sanctuary town/area for both sides called the Promenade which houses everything you need along with a Hut trade network AH system. Im not sure if thats the same as the galactic one or like the Gadgetzan neutral one in WoW. I can see that being a general hub for all players, it really is that good. And like i said, it just looks amazing.

Did a bit of space combat, I really enjoyed it. I ike how it's balanced. Not complicated enough to take any focus away from the actual game, but still enjoyable enough to give a go for some extra xp while you send your comps away harvesting etc.

I honestly dont know what im going to do until launch. Oh apart from Skyrim :p
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on November 29, 2011, 01:06:00 PM
i just cannot wait either. What a game. WHAT...A....GAME!

I got to Nar Shaddah before I logged. It looks just epic. Bright lights, bustling nightlife, like space soho! Theres a Sanctuary town/area for both sides called the Promenade which houses everything you need along with a Hut trade network AH system. Im not sure if thats the same as the galactic one or like the Gadgetzan neutral one in WoW. I can see that being a general hub for all players, it really is that good. And like i said, it just looks amazing.

Did a bit of space combat, I really enjoyed it. I ike how it's balanced. Not complicated enough to take any focus away from the actual game, but still enjoyable enough to give a go for some extra xp while you send your comps away harvesting etc.

I honestly dont know what im going to do until launch. Oh apart from Skyrim :p

Unless they fix it, DONT send companions away whilst doing space missions, unless you know they wont return until you are done.

Mine returned half way through and proceeded to continually "fly" towards my ship ;)

 Also those pop ups about companions returning during space missions/flashpoint boss fights etc gets really annoying, they need to implement a priority system for them.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on November 29, 2011, 02:31:59 PM
Just got hold of a physical Collector's Edition pre-order box from GAME.

The assure me I'm 'guaranteed' a copy. Either way, I'll be on their doorstep at 9AM sharp on the 20th!
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on November 29, 2011, 02:43:49 PM
Just got hold of a physical Collector's Edition pre-order box from GAME.

The assure me I'm 'guaranteed' a copy. Either way, I'll be on their doorstep at 9AM sharp on the 20th!

send me your postmen, 2pm is the norm for me
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on November 29, 2011, 02:56:20 PM
Just got hold of a physical Collector's Edition pre-order box from GAME.

The assure me I'm 'guaranteed' a copy. Either way, I'll be on their doorstep at 9AM sharp on the 20th!

send me your postmen, 2pm is the norm for me

I'll be picking mine up from the shop ;D
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on November 29, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
Any idea if they have settled on a grace period - Ste Reid said last week there would be one but wasnt sure of how long.  As I wouldnt want folks getting fucked over come the 20th.

And as for withdrawal. I reinstalled both Kotors... and iirc theres 2 weeks of a swg sub left lying around on of my SOE accounts :D
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on November 29, 2011, 03:02:42 PM
and iirc theres 2 weeks of a swg sub left lying around on of my SOE accounts :D

Now, THAT is desperation!
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on November 29, 2011, 03:04:24 PM
and iirc theres 2 weeks of a swg sub left lying around on of my SOE accounts :D

Now, THAT is desperation!

:D

Seriously, I want scifi, I have eve and kotor. Im not that desperate.  However I will be whoring every forum I use in the hope that BW will suddenly announce uiscaling.... (not modding, just scaling ala lotro!).
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on November 29, 2011, 06:08:18 PM
I'd much prefer modding. When I say modding, i actually mean the ability to move pop-up screens about.

Oh and if you open a UI element, it shouldnt close another one and replace. But i suppose that goes hand in hand with screen space and being able to move pop-up screens about.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on November 29, 2011, 06:15:50 PM
I'd much prefer modding. When I say modding, i actually mean the ability to move pop-up screens about.

Oh and if you open a UI element, it shouldnt close another one and replace. But i suppose that goes hand in hand with screen space and being able to move pop-up screens about.

Aye, they need scaling and independent moving of elements in ASAP, its a basic function of the UI in just about everything within the genre...
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on November 29, 2011, 06:23:04 PM
I need a job. Your withdrawal is nothing compared to mine...   ???
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on November 29, 2011, 06:26:59 PM
I need a job. Your withdrawal is nothing compared to mine...   ???

Catholics of Ireland have known for years that type of withdrawal doesnt work
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on November 29, 2011, 06:43:11 PM
I need a job. Your withdrawal is nothing compared to mine...   ???

We miss you.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on November 29, 2011, 06:46:44 PM
I need a job. Your withdrawal is nothing compared to mine...   ???

We miss you.

i do really miss you ;)

you are just not on enough now to poke fun at
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on November 29, 2011, 06:49:28 PM
Sad bunch.  :D
Said the man who cannot pay his mortgage bill.  :'(
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on November 29, 2011, 10:30:16 PM
Details of first expansion are HERE (http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Panda-Wars-85800.jpg) i shit you not
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on November 29, 2011, 10:55:07 PM
Details of first expansion are HERE (http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Panda-Wars-85800.jpg) i shit you not

You cruel, cruel man!
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Rexorr on November 30, 2011, 05:59:41 AM
Made lvl 16  before they forcibly removed me from the servers and shut them down.  I started to feel like I did back in 1999 when Everquest came out. 

This weekend was really fun!

I can already see that I am going to need to closely control my game time, or else my wife might start getting the feeling she had in 1999 when Everquest came out and actually divorce me this time.

Anyhow, I'm currently guilded up with some friends from SWG, but let me know what server you guys end up on and I will come visit.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on November 30, 2011, 07:17:53 PM
730 000 people played this beta  ???

Quote
Posted by Eric Brown - Electronic Arts, Inc. - CFO
What I would like to do is provide a little bit of update on Star Wars. One of the things that we did this past holiday weekend was proceed with a very large scale beta testing and rollout for Star Wars. To be more specific, we had 731,000 unique people play the game over the weekend and
we peak concurrent users just above 250,000.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Keggi on November 30, 2011, 07:30:17 PM
730 000 people played this beta  ???

Quote
Posted by Eric Brown - Electronic Arts, Inc. - CFO
What I would like to do is provide a little bit of update on Star Wars. One of the things that we did this past holiday weekend was proceed with a very large scale beta testing and rollout for Star Wars. To be more specific, we had 731,000 unique people play the game over the weekend and
we peak concurrent users just above 250,000.

release the damn thing now i is shaking like a alky who hasnt had his daily meths :)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on November 30, 2011, 09:29:53 PM
730 000 people played this beta  ???

Quote
Posted by Eric Brown - Electronic Arts, Inc. - CFO
What I would like to do is provide a little bit of update on Star Wars. One of the things that we did this past holiday weekend was proceed with a very large scale beta testing and rollout for Star Wars. To be more specific, we had 731,000 unique people play the game over the weekend and
we peak concurrent users just above 250,000.

Wow. Having said that, in the US alone, they topped 900000 preorders, and that doesn't include digital copies or outside the US...
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on November 30, 2011, 09:39:58 PM
730 000 people played this beta  ???

Quote
Posted by Eric Brown - Electronic Arts, Inc. - CFO
What I would like to do is provide a little bit of update on Star Wars. One of the things that we did this past holiday weekend was proceed with a very large scale beta testing and rollout for Star Wars. To be more specific, we had 731,000 unique people play the game over the weekend and
we peak concurrent users just above 250,000.

Wow. Having said that, in the US alone, they topped 900000 preorders, and that doesn't include digital copies or outside the US...

nice

they have been quoted as saying 500k subs makes them profitable 1M subs very profitable.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 01, 2011, 09:15:27 AM
Xmas bonuses all round then. And more importantly, more dough to throw into new content down the line. It's gonna be awesome!

The only think i'm worried about is that pretty much only 1/4 of the pre-orders played the beta yet all servers were rammed with queues. Launch will probably be at least 3 times busier you'd have thought. Staggered launch will help, but when it gets to the 20th it's going to be a disaster zone. I just hope they got enough from this beta to deal with it.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on December 01, 2011, 09:27:02 AM
Xmas bonuses all round then. And more importantly, more dough to throw into new content down the line. It's gonna be awesome!

The only think i'm worried about is that pretty much only 1/4 of the pre-orders played the beta yet all servers were rammed with queues. Launch will probably be at least 3 times busier you'd have thought. Staggered launch will help, but when it gets to the 20th it's going to be a disaster zone. I just hope they got enough from this beta to deal with it.

I think they did. They were pretty rapid at getting new EU EN servers up. I think it was us Brits that caught them by surprise. Only one EU EN server must have meant they didn't expect much from us. I think there were about 10 or so EU EN servers by the time beta was over. 
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 01, 2011, 09:58:32 AM
Not just brits, the dutch, the spanish, the scandies, the russians. Basically the 200m+ people in the Eu that arent french or german :)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 01, 2011, 11:40:15 AM
Not just brits, the dutch, the spanish, the scandies, the russians. Basically the 200m+ people in the Eu that arent french or german :)

yup they prob didnt realise that they all roll on English servers
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 01, 2011, 01:04:32 PM
Not just brits, the dutch, the spanish, the scandies, the russians. Basically the 200m+ people in the Eu that arent french or german :)

yup they prob didnt realise that they all roll on English servers

Bioware or the Dutch?

They'll be too stoned to even know theyre playing a game
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on December 01, 2011, 04:36:11 PM
Not just brits, the dutch, the spanish, the scandies, the russians. Basically the 200m+ people in the Eu that arent french or german :)

yup they prob didnt realise that they all roll on English servers

Bioware or the Dutch?

They'll be too stoned to even know theyre playing a game


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EdLVGq_DZj0/TdO8R7dGjNI/AAAAAAAAADU/vleGIxQUy38/s1600/Dont+Stereotype+Me.jpg)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 01, 2011, 04:38:31 PM
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoilers content.

didnt you stereotype me just last week? :P

are these smileys working correctly, thats meant to be a : P but looks bizarre
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 01, 2011, 04:40:22 PM
Its not stereotyping if a head-shrink does it surely?
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on December 01, 2011, 05:16:22 PM
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoilers content.

didnt you stereotype me just last week? :P

are these smileys working correctly, thats meant to be a : P but looks bizarre

Nope that was goaty  ;)

and seems that a wink is a tongue, no proper wink smiley rlly
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 01, 2011, 05:59:26 PM
2 weeks to go and im bored  :-[
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 01, 2011, 07:26:23 PM
Nah when I said 'too stoned' I meant Bioware, obviously.  ;) You know what them game develpopers are like.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 01, 2011, 07:48:24 PM
WEEEEEEEE just got an invite to test this weekend :P
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Keggi on December 01, 2011, 08:31:23 PM
WEEEEEEEE just got an invite to test this weekend :P

lucky ba*****.

hehe enjoy yourself.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 01, 2011, 08:59:00 PM
Quote
RIP OPOD (Orange Pixel of Doom), gone but never forgotten!

They fixed it ;)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Keggi on December 01, 2011, 09:19:22 PM
val and jaidus got invited back in this weekend too and yes they are ba****** too :)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 01, 2011, 09:42:42 PM
Quote
RIP OPOD (Orange Pixel of Doom), gone but never forgotten!

They fixed it ;)

 :(
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on December 01, 2011, 10:01:06 PM
I need a job. Your withdrawal is nothing compared to mine...   ???

yay. parents sponsored computer repairs at my graduation yesterday. now to find out what is actually broken.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on December 01, 2011, 10:03:51 PM
WEEEEEEEE just got an invite to test this weekend :P

Noooooooooooo! Why not me?!
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 01, 2011, 10:04:45 PM
I need a job. Your withdrawal is nothing compared to mine...   ???

yay. parents sponsored computer repairs at my graduation yesterday. now to find out what is actually broken.

You have 6months to get as much gaming time in as possible!!!

It better a quick fix :)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 01, 2011, 10:06:14 PM
You don't need a job. You need cashflow.

Quite the difference.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Keggi on December 02, 2011, 02:29:12 PM
bloody hell about 6 people from synch have been invited back into beta talk about unlucky for us :o

may try to log in anyway as i know some people never got a invite to last weekend but got in anyway.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Dlarah on December 02, 2011, 03:07:39 PM
Oh i got the invite last night but didnt see until now that it was for something starting today. Tought it was for a later date...
And im not working this weekend \o/
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 02, 2011, 03:44:26 PM
I want to beta test this weekend, but I don't. You know what I mean?
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 02, 2011, 07:12:02 PM
well seems they are currently testing their log in queueing system ;)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Keggi on December 02, 2011, 07:29:37 PM
I want to beta test this weekend, but I don't. You know what I mean?

know what you mean i just wanted to check out the crafting again now that i know what im supposed to be doing didnt even want to leave the space station.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Bethor on December 02, 2011, 11:16:46 PM
am i the only one who thought this was wow with guns.
they lost me when my lazors didnt move in straight lines so they could hit the targets.

still hope you guys enjoy it. Guess my wait is for dark milennium if that ever comes
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Bethor on December 02, 2011, 11:18:04 PM
I need a job. Your withdrawal is nothing compared to mine...   ???

yay. parents sponsored computer repairs at my graduation yesterday. now to find out what is actually broken.

FYI im free on monday, we could check than instead of sunday!
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 03, 2011, 12:15:51 PM
So somewhere someone here said that it didn't feel like a grind.

Is that because it's SW, shiny and new? Or are the quests actually different from WoW and LOTRO's kill X for Y and get Z?

Please indulge my need to play this game vicariously through you.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 03, 2011, 12:17:59 PM
So somewhere someone here said that it didn't feel like a grind.

Is that because it's SW, shiny and new? Or are the quests actually different from WoW and LOTRO's kill X for Y and get Z?

Please indulge my need to play this game vicariously through you.

there are ofc the quests to kill x number of y and take it z. It just doesnt feel like a grind as the quest flow is phenomenal
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 03, 2011, 12:21:36 PM
My only gripe is there is still quite a need to return to quest givers between sections of a quest, its very rare you see any sort of holo/comms type usage, which is a shame really. I can understand returning at the end of the line if they have an item or similar for you, but currency and xp could be done remotely.

But other than that - which is a gripe I even used to have when I missioned in EVE (im in a spaceship, why do i have to come to you to get a mission to kill ants in your backyard...), Garry is bang on with how good the questing feels.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on December 03, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
Also, the fully voiced aspect of the game makes you care about the quests you're on. Makes you feel involved, and therefore it feels a lot less grindy.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 03, 2011, 04:36:28 PM
Also, the majority of the 'kill x amount of mobs' quests are integrated as bonus missions. You'll be given a quest to go do something, and when you kill a mob while getting to that, a popup will appears saying 'Kill X amount of these mobs'. Completely optional, but theyve obviously done it so that if you're going to have to kill a load of mobs to get to the main goal anyway, might aswell do this for some bonus xp too. It completes instantly when you've completed it, so no running back to hand in. It's well done imo.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 03, 2011, 04:43:33 PM
Will you actually let me into the guild if I somehow manage to get a copy? :P

And I can't seem to find any official info on playable races?
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 03, 2011, 05:29:03 PM
Will you actually let me into the guild if I somehow manage to get a copy? :P

And I can't seem to find any official info on playable races?

Mmm first we want... a shrubbery!

Oh and here are the races/species: http://www.wikiswtor.com/Playable_species (http://www.wikiswtor.com/Playable_species)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 03, 2011, 05:45:04 PM
Will you actually let me into the guild if I somehow manage to get a copy? :P

And I can't seem to find any official info on playable races?

Mmm first we want... a shrubbery!

Oh and here are the races/species: http://www.wikiswtor.com/Playable_species (http://www.wikiswtor.com/Playable_species)

OMG they're all humanoids, that sucks, im cancelling my pre-order....as they say on the SWTOR forum. Hmm, non-humanoid playable races. That actually ever been done before?
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 03, 2011, 05:52:59 PM
Will you actually let me into the guild if I somehow manage to get a copy? :P

And I can't seem to find any official info on playable races?

Mmm first we want... a shrubbery!

Oh and here are the races/species: http://www.wikiswtor.com/Playable_species (http://www.wikiswtor.com/Playable_species)

OMG they're all humanoids, that sucks, im cancelling my pre-order....as they say on the SWTOR forum. Hmm, non-humanoid playable races. That actually ever been done before?

see what they are doing is providing "alien" species as unlocks using the "legacy" system ;)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 03, 2011, 05:58:35 PM
Thing is, is there any none humanoid (ie 2 arms, 2 legs, 1 head all attached to a torso) sentient races in Star Wars, other than the Hutts?
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 03, 2011, 06:04:57 PM
my point exactly.

Are there any non humanoid races in any other MMO?
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 03, 2011, 06:10:18 PM
Gnomes.

Wait i view them that way, no-one else does ;)

UO - no
DAOC - no
VG - no
EQ - no
EQ2 - no
WoW - no
WAR - no
EVE - no (then again there are alien species, but drones and various others dont count really)
PS - no
CO/COH/DCUO - no
Darkfail - no
LOTRO - no

Cant think of any others.

The problem is, using non-humanoid runs the risk of the player (the "hero" usually) not feeling a proper connection with their avatar (hence ccp thinking spacedolls would get them subs - which it didnt when things panned out) and therefore not paying to play.  Not my argument at all, but thats pretty much it.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 03, 2011, 06:15:35 PM
Closest would be Tyranids? Assuming 40k:DMO will feature them, but probably not playable...
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 03, 2011, 06:17:50 PM
It's fun to play a spider or whatever in LOTRO for a bit. But non humanoids can only level in skills and abilities.
They don't wear clothes. Don't use equipment. Etc. They'd make for very boring playable races.

That's why we need EWOKS!
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Keggi on December 03, 2011, 06:25:49 PM
jawa jedi like to see i would
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 03, 2011, 06:28:36 PM
It's fun to play a spider or whatever in LOTRO for a bit. But non humanoids can only level in skills and abilities.
They don't wear clothes. Don't use equipment. Etc. They'd make for very boring playable races.

That's why we need EWOKS!

DIE IN A FIRE. Or a flood since you live under sea level.  And then get resurrected and fed into a wood chipper feet first. Then have all the bits recombined and frozen with fruit juice and eaten by George Lucas.

EDIT: I may or may not have issues with ewoks...
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 03, 2011, 06:47:53 PM
It's alright. I still love you. EWOK POWAR!
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Taith on December 03, 2011, 09:36:30 PM
Thing is, is there any none humanoid (ie 2 arms, 2 legs, 1 head all attached to a torso) sentient races in Star Wars, other than the Hutts?

In the old Dark Horse comics, yes, but I don't think I've ever seen a non-humanoid anywhere else. I seem to recall at least one of Nomi Sunrider's masters was a quadruped (and used to let Nomi's daughter ride around on his back) and I think another was a kind of tree who eventually went sessile. My copies of those comics are back in Oz though.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 03, 2011, 11:59:56 PM
Thing is, is there any none humanoid (ie 2 arms, 2 legs, 1 head all attached to a torso) sentient races in Star Wars, other than the Hutts?

In the old Dark Horse comics, yes, but I don't think I've ever seen a non-humanoid anywhere else. I seem to recall at least one of Nomi Sunrider's masters was a quadruped (and used to let Nomi's daughter ride around on his back) and I think another was a kind of tree who eventually went sessile. My copies of those comics are back in Oz though.

Master Ikrit?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ikrit (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ikrit)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Taith on December 04, 2011, 10:11:10 AM
Mangala, you need to look at that link.

(Fire in the hole, everyone else.)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 04, 2011, 10:15:33 AM
God I know. It's the ham, bacon and eggs from last night.  ???
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 04, 2011, 10:18:56 AM
A jedi pussycat?

The Blizz is strong with the guy who wrote him in...
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 04, 2011, 12:38:19 PM
A jedi pussycat?

The Blizz is strong with the guy who wrote him in...

heheh

he was a jedi scholar not really a fighty Jedi

cant remember if he was the same one that got stuck on Yavin IV
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on December 04, 2011, 03:28:06 PM
So, this game...

Would it be fun for a not-fanboi (vs you fanbois every last one of you) like me? Bar the joy of enjoying your company ofc  :-*
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 04, 2011, 03:32:49 PM
I know I'm a pussy compared to the rest of the crazies here... but did you not even enjoy the movies?
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on December 04, 2011, 03:42:35 PM
I would not consider them if I had to make up a top 10 of movies and doubt I saw every minute of every episode. I don't dislike them either, mind.
But if I had to come up with the names of 10 characters from the movies, I might struggle a bit.

That should paint a picture of how un-fanboi I am.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 04, 2011, 03:47:18 PM
So, this game...

Would it be fun for a not-fanboi (vs you fanbois every last one of you) like me? Bar the joy of enjoying your company ofc  :-*

Plenty of group content, and ways for our playstyles and characters to compliment each other and of course, you get to listen to me be incredibly incredibly bitter about anything I can think of, on comms :D  Also storywise it is stunning, even if you never saw the movies/played KOTOR (different timeframe focus), the game really drags you into the background with how each class story is laid out.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 04, 2011, 03:49:45 PM
So, this game...

Would it be fun for a not-fanboi (vs you fanbois every last one of you) like me? Bar the joy of enjoying your company ofc  :-*

if you like story and not just a zergfest then its enjoyable to all. Being a SW fanboi is just a bonus ;)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 04, 2011, 03:50:20 PM
A jedi pussycat?

The Blizz is strong with the guy who wrote him in...

heheh

he was a jedi scholar not really a fighty Jedi

cant remember if he was the same one that got stuck on Yavin IV

He is still a cat.  Yes cats are awesome, but come on seriously a Jedi cat... (And I havent gotten that far with the NJO series yet, I am so disappointed  :'( )
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 04, 2011, 04:10:26 PM
I wasn't into Warcraft (except for exclusively building rock lobbing trees at LAN parties in WCIII, that's awesome) and I liked WoW.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Keggi on December 04, 2011, 04:23:15 PM
So, this game...

Would it be fun for a not-fanboi (vs you fanbois every last one of you) like me? Bar the joy of enjoying your company ofc  :-*

im not even a sci-fi lover i read alot of books all fantasy i have never read a sci-fi book but theres something about how well this game has been done that drags you in the story element is fantastic.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on December 04, 2011, 04:31:22 PM
So, this game...

Would it be fun for a not-fanboi (vs you fanbois every last one of you) like me? Bar the joy of enjoying your company ofc  :-*

im not even a sci-fi lover i read alot of books all fantasy i have never read a sci-fi book but theres something about how well this game has been done that drags you in the story element is fantastic.

same, more of a fantasy guy myself too. Good to hear feedback like this.
Will prolly give it a go then,  when wallet permits (so prolly January or later)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on December 04, 2011, 04:33:11 PM
A jedi pussycat?

The Blizz is strong with the guy who wrote him in...

heheh

he was a jedi scholar not really a fighty Jedi

cant remember if he was the same one that got stuck on Yavin IV

He is still a cat.  Yes cats are awesome, but come on seriously a Jedi cat... (And I havent gotten that far with the NJO series yet, I am so disappointed  :'( )

its actually a bunny.

Im not a fanboi but can still read properly ;)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 04, 2011, 04:36:27 PM
What can I say, I am blinded by cuddly/cute animal hate.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Keggi on December 04, 2011, 04:43:05 PM
god the withdrawl is killing me now at times like these(new mmo releases) i wish i was still on the dole for 24/7 game playing.

suppose i could always give my boss a slap  :o
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 04, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
I would not consider them if I had to make up a top 10 of movies and doubt I saw every minute of every episode. I don't dislike them either, mind.
But if I had to come up with the names of 10 characters from the movies, I might struggle a bit.

That should paint a picture of how un-fanboi I am.

it's not actually set in the same era as the Movies, so as far as having to be a Star Wars fanboi I'd say definitely not. Although I would recommend playing at Knights of the Old Republic. There were some missions which linked back to the past in the KOTOR era and the nostalgia was so cool. 1 mission in particular had me finding lost holocordings from an NPC you actually completed a mission for in KOTOR, and it was following the story on. Ended up pretty harrowing, it was awesome.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Bethor on December 05, 2011, 08:08:08 AM
I would not consider them if I had to make up a top 10 of movies and doubt I saw every minute of every episode. I don't dislike them either, mind.
But if I had to come up with the names of 10 characters from the movies, I might struggle a bit.

That should paint a picture of how un-fanboi I am.
To break the fanboi-ism of the posters above. (you are in withdrawal, so there is no denying you are a fanboi! :) )

I only know the original 3 movies, i think i did see the other 3 also at some point, so not a real fanboi. But like i stated earlier. Didnt like the new SW mmo. Its like wow only leveling is slower because i need to look at some guy telling some story. And i played a bit last beta weekend.

Missions i got was go there, kill x of that. (with lasers making sharp turns to be able to hit targets)  or go kill monster/boss/whatever x there and  retrieve my Y.
It looks like a game made 2 years ago (so better than WoW, but granted not all settings could be turned up without hacking your ini file, didnt bother with that)

Controls are just point and click. and a bit button bashing. Not really challenging (but very like wow). Its waiting for your meter of whatever it is to fill up so you can use special power X again. Also relative space compared to target makes no difference in damage taken or to hit.

Also got the annoying level structure, if generic mob x is 4-5 levels higher than you, you aren't gonna kill it by yourself.

I didn't get past the start area so i didn't get to see the space combat, so cant comment on that

I wouldn't play this unless playing with some friends, and even than i'd think about it.

Also worth noting. i REALLY did want to like this game, been following it on tweakers for over a 2 years i think. I was also looking forward to it while starting up the game. But for me it felt like WoW with shiny sci-fi skinns. (also hated the land-speeder fulfilling the same role as the flying mount thingies you had in wow that would fly you from point a to b)

SO in short, i think my dislike for this game comes from how much it looks like wow, and my deep rooted hatred for WoW
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on December 05, 2011, 08:51:09 AM
I would not consider them if I had to make up a top 10 of movies and doubt I saw every minute of every episode. I don't dislike them either, mind.
But if I had to come up with the names of 10 characters from the movies, I might struggle a bit.

That should paint a picture of how un-fanboi I am.
To break the fanboi-ism of the posters above. (you are in withdrawal, so there is no denying you are a fanboi! :) )

I only know the original 3 movies, i think i did see the other 3 also at some point, so not a real fanboi. But like i stated earlier. Didnt like the new SW mmo. Its like wow only leveling is slower because i need to look at some guy telling some story. And i played a bit last beta weekend.

Missions i got was go there, kill x of that. (with lasers making sharp turns to be able to hit targets)  or go kill monster/boss/whatever x there and  retrieve my Y.
It looks like a game made 2 years ago (so better than WoW, but granted not all settings could be turned up without hacking your ini file, didnt bother with that)

Controls are just point and click. and a bit button bashing. Not really challenging (but very like wow). Its waiting for your meter of whatever it is to fill up so you can use special power X again. Also relative space compared to target makes no difference in damage taken or to hit.

Also got the annoying level structure, if generic mob x is 4-5 levels higher than you, you aren't gonna kill it by yourself.

I didn't get past the start area so i didn't get to see the space combat, so cant comment on that

I wouldn't play this unless playing with some friends, and even than i'd think about it.

Also worth noting. i REALLY did want to like this game, been following it on tweakers for over a 2 years i think. I was also looking forward to it while starting up the game. But for me it felt like WoW with shiny sci-fi skinns. (also hated the land-speeder fulfilling the same role as the flying mount thingies you had in wow that would fly you from point a to b)

SO in short, i think my dislike for this game comes from how much it looks like wow, and my deep rooted hatred for WoW

At the risk of being accused of being a fanboy, what exactly were you expecting?

This is an MMO after all, so how were you expecting this to differ from the most successful MMO of all time?
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 05, 2011, 09:45:31 AM
You both make a good point, but both fail to mention that anyone willing to play such games has to be willing to drop their reservations at the door if it means they have a need to play what is a fun product with a good story to it (well, maybe not good in the case of whatever metzen inspired abortion blizzard uses for a plot) alongside some good e-buddies.

Yes, the genre has been flat and style for 5 years or more thanks to everyone not wanting to take risks inside the fantasyish section of MMOland, and we all know that this is because people saw what blizz did and just wanted a piece of that pie, not a cake or a muffin or a rice ball or anything different, just pie. However as blizz slowly kill off their product people are taking what they did and adding new twists to it - in this case, the whole voice driven thing - just as blizz did when they built their game while EQ was king (their twists were easier than that game, better more well known IP, instanced dungeons).  The end of wow is going to see an mmo diaspora, we wont ever see an MMO with wow's numbers (in the west at least) once its gone, just a huge plethora of MMOs all with their own adherents because of x or y reason.  And each of those MMO's will have a "hook" that keeps people there and slagging off all the others.  I just feel sorry for the farmville casuals, the real idiots of MMO world (the people who dont read up on anything, dont know how to play a class/fit a ship etc unless there is a video for it, generally are just bad), as they will just drift from product to product after wow dies, moaning until those games change to suit them, and never really finding a place to be happy and enjoy their gaming time.

I have hope in my projected mmo diaspora, and this game is an inkling of that, we can only wait and see what the future brings both in this and other products as they appear. And as said, as long as we have a good crack as a group for however long, thats the important thing right?

(PS space section is very very meh, space graphics themselves are also totally Tie Fighter 1990ish - then again EVE has spoiled me on that front and space graphics wise no other game will ever compare, EVE is simply that gorgeous now - almost Hubble image gorgeous)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 05, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
i found my x-wing vs tie fighter discs :D
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on December 05, 2011, 10:59:09 AM
(the people who dont read up on anything, dont know how to play a class/fit a ship etc unless there is a video for it, generally are just bad)

Wow, you actually painted a pretty accurate picture of me as an MMO player!  ;D

But yeah, my main reason for wanting to play this game is that my e-buddies (you folk) are there (i.e. the group play as described by Mang). I doubt I would want to pick up this game if it werent for you.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Keggi on December 05, 2011, 06:27:16 PM
i have never read up on any dungeon/raid in wow and i killed the lich king but then again i was with 9 other people who knew what colour underwear gave the best stats. :-X
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 05, 2011, 06:29:50 PM
i have never read up on any dungeon/raid in wow and i killed the lich king but then again i was with 9 other people who knew what colour underwear gave the best stats. :-X

i hate that

i like the fresh underwear feeling of running in without a clue and seeing first hand what happens, wiping, then working out a strategy from there.

Also not feeling stuck to certain group constraints merely as thats whats "best"
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 05, 2011, 08:48:11 PM
I always liked to think I prefered the whole 'find out for yourself' thing for raids, but then I experienced The Horned Fist in Icecrown Citadel lol.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Taith on December 06, 2011, 11:03:02 AM
(PS space section is very very meh, space graphics themselves are also totally Tie Fighter 1990ish

I loved that game!

Oh God, how am I going to play a game that requires me to fly around in space with a mouse instead of a joystick?
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Bethor on December 06, 2011, 10:58:05 PM

At the risk of being accused of being a fanboy, what exactly were you expecting?

This is an MMO after all, so how were you expecting this to differ from the most successful MMO of all time?

IDK, thats the whole problem. I guess i am looking for something new, new as in the 1st time i played WoW and thought well wow. and the 1st time i started up EvE.
As for a game where i get a gun, i want to be able to aim and shoot that gun (does remind me to check earthrise)
ship combat i want it to look like eve, but behave more like a fightsim i guess. although i do like the eve play also. At least i know i dont want to be as in the start trek mmo.

I think i just want something new, and save for indie developers atm, there is nothing new, its just the same shit different day. Oh yea we got a new shiny now. (although EA tried something new in their last incarnation of C&C and although it sucked they did give it a try and that is worth something i think!)

To go on about my general displeasure. Look at skyrim. and than look at the 1st mount and blade. And now tell me why a triple A game doesnt have mounted combat, while a indie devloper made it work, and made it fun since 2008

So my general discontent is the "big companies" dont do new stuff, just fancy graphics. New games arent "bad" as such, but i think for the last year i enjoyed indie games with their weird gameplay a hell of a lot more than games from the AAA companies. And i expected Bioware to bring something new (as ME was new compared to BG)

For instance, i cannot, just cannot understand the hype about D3.. its basically D2 with fancy graphics. And D2 is basically D1 with fancy graphics. Sure a few new things in there, but different, not really (just the item fever that keeps people going)

So i think i just expected more from SW and bioware than a WoW rip with speech. it isnt bad as such. but new.. really.. WoW had nice stories you could read but 99% didnt bother. Do you think they'd skip the ingame movie speech if it would speed up the game..

anyway sorry for the rant. I do hope YOU all enjoy the game. Because thats whats important. Im just bitter atm :D

Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Bethor on December 06, 2011, 11:14:43 PM
As for the game features that did seem interesting. Its the whole companions thing. That still sounds fun, i dont know how they actually created it ingame but i like the idea.

also the space combat, as it couldnt be worse than in startrek :)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 07, 2011, 09:01:29 AM
After secretly ordering the game and cancelling 15 minutes later. And getting a confirmation that the order was cancelled. It still got delivered. And the gf says I can keep it and SWTOR will be my Christmas gift. Wub. <3

So my ass registered the pre-order code and is downloading content as we speak.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Taith on December 07, 2011, 09:04:43 AM
Reposted from my post on the Synch forum:

I had forgotten what counter-productive and self-defeating policies game stores can have.

Walked into the GAME store on Chiswick High Road at lunch time to see about pre-ordering swtor. After some puzzled staring and checking their release sheets, they acknowledged that yes, there was a 75% chance of it being in the store on the 20th. Would I like to preorder? Sure, why not. Do you have a GAME card? No.

With a pained expression, the guy behind the counter told me that he couldn't sign me up for a pre-order without a GAME card. The last time I walked into that store to buy a game was three years ago, for Warhammer Online. I've bought WoW and all of its expansions via Amazon. Of course I'm not going to sign up for a GAME card. I walked out of there without pre-ordering it. I said I'd take my chances on the day.

What the hell kind of Nineties business practice is that? With all the competition that exists for game stores, why would they create an extra hurdle you have to jump over for a sale?
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 07, 2011, 09:08:31 AM
Because they don't let people with knowledge of real sales and human interaction make business decisions in the Head Office. Blame on the Marketing director.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Taith on December 07, 2011, 09:19:35 AM
So i think i just expected more from SW and bioware than a WoW rip with speech. it isnt bad as such. but new.. really.. WoW had nice stories you could read but 99% didnt bother. Do you think they'd skip the ingame movie speech if it would speed up the game..

I'd be really curious to see testing on this, actually. The parallel that I can think of is: if someone's reading a book, they might skim over paragraphs of narration, but they're much less likely to skim any of the dialogue.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on December 07, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
Reposted from my post on the Synch forum:

I had forgotten what counter-productive and self-defeating policies game stores can have.

Walked into the GAME store on Chiswick High Road at lunch time to see about pre-ordering swtor. After some puzzled staring and checking their release sheets, they acknowledged that yes, there was a 75% chance of it being in the store on the 20th. Would I like to preorder? Sure, why not. Do you have a GAME card? No.

With a pained expression, the guy behind the counter told me that he couldn't sign me up for a pre-order without a GAME card. The last time I walked into that store to buy a game was three years ago, for Warhammer Online. I've bought WoW and all of its expansions via Amazon. Of course I'm not going to sign up for a GAME card. I walked out of there without pre-ordering it. I said I'd take my chances on the day.

What the hell kind of Nineties business practice is that? With all the competition that exists for game stores, why would they create an extra hurdle you have to jump over for a sale?

Fear not Taith, you will be able to walk into a GAME store at launch and pick up a copy of SWTOR. You *may* be even to snag a copy of the Collector's Edition if they have any for general sale, but that'll set you back £120.

The other option is to pre-order the Digital Deluxe edition from Origin. This'll set you back £60, but comes with some shiny in-game stuff, including a mount. They'll also email out the pre-order code within a few minutes of ordering. Pre-order cost £5 (same as standard edition in GAME).

While on the subject of GAME, I popped in to my local GAME store on Monday. Thankfully, our GAME staff are very knowledgeable, which helps a great deal. I was informed by them that the retail version of the game should be available for purchase on or slightly before the 15/12/11. As such, I'm hoping to pick up my Collector's Edition some time early next week.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on December 07, 2011, 09:26:04 AM
After secretly ordering the game and cancelling 15 minutes later. And getting a confirmation that the order was cancelled. It still got delivered. And the gf says I can keep it and SWTOR will be my Christmas gift. Wub. <3

So my ass registered the pre-order code and is downloading content as we speak.

Yay.

SWTOR, now with added Goatboy.

/wubbles
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 07, 2011, 09:26:33 AM
Game dont cater for PC gaming they only care about getting a piece of the preorder pie
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Keggi on December 07, 2011, 09:26:37 AM
Reposted from my post on the Synch forum:

I had forgotten what counter-productive and self-defeating policies game stores can have.

Walked into the GAME store on Chiswick High Road at lunch time to see about pre-ordering swtor. After some puzzled staring and checking their release sheets, they acknowledged that yes, there was a 75% chance of it being in the store on the 20th. Would I like to preorder? Sure, why not. Do you have a GAME card? No.

With a pained expression, the guy behind the counter told me that he couldn't sign me up for a pre-order without a GAME card. The last time I walked into that store to buy a game was three years ago, for Warhammer Online. I've bought WoW and all of its expansions via Amazon. Of course I'm not going to sign up for a GAME card. I walked out of there without pre-ordering it. I said I'd take my chances on the day.

What the hell kind of Nineties business practice is that? With all the competition that exists for game stores, why would they create an extra hurdle you have to jump over for a sale?

Fear not Taith, you will be able to walk into a GAME store at launch and pick up a copy of SWTOR. You *may* be even to snag a copy of the Collector's Edition if they have any for general sale, but that'll set you back £120.

The other option is to pre-order the Digital Deluxe edition from Origin. This'll set you back £60, but comes with some shiny in-game stuff, including a mount. They'll also email out the pre-order code within a few minutes of ordering. Pre-order cost £5 (same as standard edition in GAME).

While on the subject of GAME, I popped in to my local GAME store on Monday. Thankfully, our GAME staff are very knowledgeable, which helps a great deal. I was informed by them that the retail version of the game should be available for purchase on or slightly before the 15/12/11. As such, I'm hoping to pick up my Collector's Edition some time early next week.

theres alot of talk of it been released/available early seems european suppliers are telling people they will get it on the 15th.
sort of tallies with game saying that the timecards are available on the 13th.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 07, 2011, 09:29:02 AM
rumours on the forum Keggi are game available round the 12th due to them offering NO grace period after 20th

all speculation and rumour ofc until officially clarified
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on December 07, 2011, 09:30:43 AM
rumours on the forum Keggi are game available round the 12th due to them offering NO grace period after 20th

all speculation and rumour ofc until officially clarified

I'll be getting on the blower to my local GAME first thing Monday morning about this.

I'm *still* not convinced I'll get a Collector's Edition out of them, despite the store staffs confidence. Time will tell I guess.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 07, 2011, 09:32:53 AM

At the risk of being accused of being a fanboy, what exactly were you expecting?

This is an MMO after all, so how were you expecting this to differ from the most successful MMO of all time?

IDK, thats the whole problem. I guess i am looking for something new, new as in the 1st time i played WoW and thought well wow. and the 1st time i started up EvE.
As for a game where i get a gun, i want to be able to aim and shoot that gun (does remind me to check earthrise)
ship combat i want it to look like eve, but behave more like a fightsim i guess. although i do like the eve play also. At least i know i dont want to be as in the start trek mmo.

I think i just want something new, and save for indie developers atm, there is nothing new, its just the same shit different day. Oh yea we got a new shiny now. (although EA tried something new in their last incarnation of C&C and although it sucked they did give it a try and that is worth something i think!)

To go on about my general displeasure. Look at skyrim. and than look at the 1st mount and blade. And now tell me why a triple A game doesnt have mounted combat, while a indie devloper made it work, and made it fun since 2008

So my general discontent is the "big companies" dont do new stuff, just fancy graphics. New games arent "bad" as such, but i think for the last year i enjoyed indie games with their weird gameplay a hell of a lot more than games from the AAA companies. And i expected Bioware to bring something new (as ME was new compared to BG)

For instance, i cannot, just cannot understand the hype about D3.. its basically D2 with fancy graphics. And D2 is basically D1 with fancy graphics. Sure a few new things in there, but different, not really (just the item fever that keeps people going)

So i think i just expected more from SW and bioware than a WoW rip with speech. it isnt bad as such. but new.. really.. WoW had nice stories you could read but 99% didnt bother. Do you think they'd skip the ingame movie speech if it would speed up the game..

anyway sorry for the rant. I do hope YOU all enjoy the game. Because thats whats important. Im just bitter atm :D

If this is your general opinion on modern games, i'm not sure there is much hope for you  ;)

The problem is, we're living in an age where everything you want has been done before. How can you make something new and refreshing when realisticly, that's nothing more than a metaphor now? All we can hope for now is well polished games which keep you entertained, whether it be through combat, story, cool features etc. For me SWTOR does that, but it wont be the same for everyone. I know it's blunt, but the only thing I can really say is, if you don't want to play it, dont play it, and leave those who enjoy it to themselves
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on December 07, 2011, 09:34:54 AM
As for the game features that did seem interesting. Its the whole companions thing. That still sounds fun, i dont know how they actually created it ingame but i like the idea.

also the space combat, as it couldnt be worse than in startrek :)

Maybe it's worth dropping the £40 on it and giving it a go for the free 30 days?

At least that way you will have gotten to try out Companions and Space Combat (which I love, as it happens).
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 07, 2011, 09:37:19 AM
As for the game features that did seem interesting. Its the whole companions thing. That still sounds fun, i dont know how they actually created it ingame but i like the idea.

also the space combat, as it couldnt be worse than in startrek :)

Maybe it's worth dropping the £40 on it and giving it a go for the free 30 days?

At least that way you will have gotten to try out Companions and Space Combat (which I love, as it happens).

crafting through companiosn is awesome, Reverse Engineering to improve recipes is awesome

i truly didnt want to like the space combat, i wanted updated X-wing, however it is fun and i cant help but enjoy it, especially once you get upgrades to your ship
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on December 07, 2011, 09:40:01 AM
Word of advice about player ships.

There's a ship upgrades vendor in the hanger lobby as you're about to get your ship. Buy what's available and slot it before you do your first mission.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on December 07, 2011, 09:40:18 AM
After secretly ordering the game and cancelling 15 minutes later. And getting a confirmation that the order was cancelled. It still got delivered. And the gf says I can keep it and SWTOR will be my Christmas gift. Wub. <3

So my ass registered the pre-order code and is downloading content as we speak.

So game at no charge? Where did you order? I need a cheap copy too!
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on December 07, 2011, 09:45:33 AM
After secretly ordering the game and cancelling 15 minutes later. And getting a confirmation that the order was cancelled. It still got delivered. And the gf says I can keep it and SWTOR will be my Christmas gift. Wub. <3

So my ass registered the pre-order code and is downloading content as we speak.

So game at no charge? Where did you order? I need a cheap copy too!

Not the game, the empty box with the pre-order code in it.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 07, 2011, 09:45:43 AM
Word of advice about player ships.

There's a ship upgrades vendor in the hanger lobby as you're about to get your ship. Buy what's available and slot it before you do your first mission.

excpet armour upgrade youll get that from doing teh missions themselves ;)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 07, 2011, 09:59:22 AM
Bol.com acceptgiro dude. Can't open it for the code and then send it back though.  ;)

Also I think everyone should be able to express their opinion on the games that come along, regardless of whether it's positive or negative.
Lord knows it's always better than anything I have to contribute!

I think Bethor isn't into mainstream stuff. And this is very, very mainstream.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Chug on December 07, 2011, 10:19:43 AM
I agree everyone is allowed an opinion, it's why we post, but writing off a game after not even playing past the starting area is a bit harsh, when you havent even seen any real features of the game at that point. Give it a real play through before making a valid judgement, that's all i'm saying. And if you aren't interested in even doing that, how much weight does that opinion even carry?
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on December 07, 2011, 11:04:31 AM
I agree everyone is allowed an opinion, it's why we post, but writing off a game after not even playing past the starting area is a bit harsh, when you havent even seen any real features of the game at that point. Give it a real play through before making a valid judgement, that's all i'm saying. And if you aren't interested in even doing that, how much weight does that opinion even carry?

Where were you when I first introduced Tribes: Ascend?  :'(
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 07, 2011, 11:20:11 AM
I agree everyone is allowed an opinion, it's why we post, but writing off a game after not even playing past the starting area is a bit harsh, when you havent even seen any real features of the game at that point. Give it a real play through before making a valid judgement, that's all i'm saying. And if you aren't interested in even doing that, how much weight does that opinion even carry?

Where were you when I first introduced Tribes: Ascend?  :'(

hahaha i never wrote Tribes off i made various assumptions based on my experiences of ftp shooters, and now ive played in the beta i was not wrong i assure you.
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Mangala on December 07, 2011, 11:41:33 AM
I agree everyone is allowed an opinion, it's why we post, but writing off a game after not even playing past the starting area is a bit harsh, when you havent even seen any real features of the game at that point. Give it a real play through before making a valid judgement, that's all i'm saying. And if you aren't interested in even doing that, how much weight does that opinion even carry?

I agree unless its anything to do with consoles/console ports/making things easy as thats where the money is/encouraging retards to get online and making the rest of us deal with them :D
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 07, 2011, 12:58:18 PM
Dunno. If I don't like my first bite of a plate full of elephant shit, I'm not eating half the plate first to make up my mind. :)
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Kurtt on December 07, 2011, 01:40:38 PM
Aww man.

My Granddad passed away on Saturday and his funeral is on the 15th...

That adds a downer to Early Access start!
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Goatboy on December 07, 2011, 01:41:42 PM
/huggles Kurtt.

Sorry matey.  :(
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Warcold on December 07, 2011, 01:45:34 PM
my condolences, m8y  :-\
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Caradir on December 07, 2011, 01:46:08 PM
Aww man.

My Granddad passed away on Saturday and his funeral is on the 15th...

That adds a downer to Early Access start!

condolences matey
Title: Re: Withdrawal...
Post by: Bethor on December 07, 2011, 07:45:16 PM

At the risk of being accused of being a fanboy, what exactly were you expecting?

This is an MMO after all, so how were you expecting this to differ from the most successful MMO of all time?

IDK, thats the whole problem. I guess i am looking for something new, new as in the 1st time i played WoW and thought well wow. and the 1st time i started up EvE.
As for a game where i get a gun, i want to be able to aim and shoot that gun (does remind me to check earthrise)
ship combat i want it to look like eve, but behave more like a fightsim i guess. although i do like the eve play also. At least i know i dont want to be as in the start trek mmo.

I think i just want something new, and save for indie developers atm, there is nothing new, its just the same shit different day. Oh yea we got a new shiny now. (although EA tried something new in their last incarnation of C&C and although it sucked they did give it a try and that is worth something i think!)

To go on about my general displeasure. Look at skyrim. and than look at the 1st mount and blade. And now tell me why a triple A game doesnt have mounted combat, while a indie devloper made it work, and made it fun since 2008

So my general discontent is the "big companies" dont do new stuff, just fancy graphics. New games arent "bad" as such, but i think for the last year i enjoyed indie games with their weird gameplay a hell of a lot more than games from the AAA companies. And i expected Bioware to bring something new (as ME was new compared to BG)

For instance, i cannot, just cannot understand the hype about D3.. its basically D2 with fancy graphics. And D2 is basically D1 with fancy graphics. Sure a few new things in there, but different, not really (just the item fever that keeps people going)

So i think i just expected more from SW and bioware than a WoW rip with speech. it isnt bad as such. but new.. really.. WoW had nice stories you could read but 99% didnt bother. Do you think they'd skip the ingame movie speech if it would speed up the game..

anyway sorry for the rant. I do hope YOU all enjoy the game. Because thats whats important. Im just bitter atm :D

If this is your general opinion on modern games, i'm not sure there is much hope for you  ;)

The problem is, we're living in an age where everything you want has been done before. How can you make something new and refreshing when realisticly, that's nothing more than a metaphor now? All we can hope for now is well polished games which keep you entertained, whether it be through combat, story, cool features etc. For me SWTOR does that, but it wont be the same for everyone. I know it's blunt, but the only thing I can really say is, if you don't want to play it, dont play it, and leave those who enjoy it to themselves

thats a very bleak prospect of the future saying that everything has been done before and all we can hope for is better polished games. It is also not true. :P as indi developers have proven there is still a lot that has not yet been done. (as a side note, even though TW series have a lot of flaws other people see and that do not bother me at all.  i really do enjoy that series, all of them up till now, and they are AAA company, and i think shogun 2 is a pretty modern game)

However i do think Saf asked about the game, and even though my experience is brief. i did have some experience. And i didn't like it and most of you do like the game, and you can i honestly wish you all the joy you can have in that game. But there needed to be some balance in what you were saying, and i dont like the game, i know that after the short part i played. Its just as some people dont like chocolate, they just dont like it and no amount of argument is going to make them like it. :D


And kurtt, my condolences