Hands of Justice
What we have played => World of Warcraft Retail => Topic started by: Mangala on July 06, 2010, 05:23:38 PM
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Mmm, so I wont be able to spam/troll blizzard in future without giving up my real name. The mouthbreathing 11.4million (i reckon only 100K actually have a brain out of the 11.5) will now be able to find me..
Recently, we introduced our new Real ID feature - www.battle.net/realid/ , a new way to stay connected with your friends on the new Battle.net. Today, we wanted to give you a heads up about our plans for Real ID on our official forums, discuss the design philosophy behind the changes we’re making, and give you a first look at some of the new features we’re adding to the forums to help improve the quality of conversations and make the forums an even more enjoyable place for players to visit.
The first and most significant change is that in the near future, anyone posting or replying to a post on official Blizzard forums will be doing so using their Real ID -- that is, their real-life first and last name -- with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it. These changes will go into effect on all StarCraft II forums with the launch of the new community site prior to the July 27 release of the game, with the World of Warcraft site and forums following suit near the launch of Cataclysm. Certain classic forums, including the classic Battle.net forums, will remain unchanged.
The official forums have always been a great place to discuss the latest info on our games, offer ideas and suggestions, and share experiences with other players -- however, the forums have also earned a reputation as a place where flame wars, trolling, and other unpleasantness run wild. Removing the veil of anonymity typical to online dialogue will contribute to a more positive forum environment, promote constructive conversations, and connect the Blizzard community in ways they haven’t been connected before. With this change, you’ll see blue posters (i.e. Blizzard employees) posting by their real first and last names on our forums as well.
We also plan to add a number of other features designed to make reading the forums more enjoyable and to empower players with tools to improve the quality of forum discussions. Players will have the ability to rate up or rate down posts so that great topics and replies stand out from the not-so-great; low-rated posts will appear dimmer to show that the community feels that they don’t contribute effectively to the conversation, and Blizzard’s community team will be able to quickly and easily locate highly rated posts to participate in or to highlight discussions that players find worthwhile.
In addition, individual topics will be threaded by context, meaning replies to specific posts will be grouped together, making it easier for players to keep track of multiple conversations within a thread. We’re also adding a way for Blizzard posters to “broadcast” important messages forums-wide , to help communicate breaking news to the community in a clear and timely fashion. Beyond that, we’re improving our forum search function to make locating interesting topics easier and help lower the number of redundant threads, and we have more planned as well.
With the launch of the new Battle.net, it’s important to us to create a new and different kind of online gaming environment -- one that’s highly social, and which provides an ideal place for gamers to form long-lasting, meaningful relationships. All of our design decisions surrounding Real ID -- including these forum changes -- have been made with this goal in mind.
We’ve given a great deal of consideration to the design of Real ID as a company, as gamers, and as enthusiastic users of the various online-gaming, communication, and social-networking services that have become available in recent years. As these services have become more and more popular, gamers have become part of an increasingly connected and intimate global community – friendships are much more easily forged across long distances, and at conventions like PAX or our own BlizzCon, we’ve seen first-hand how gamers who may have never actually met in person have formed meaningful real-life relationships across borders and oceans. As the way gamers interact with one another continues to evolve, our goal is to ensure Battle.net is equipped to handle the ever-changing social-gaming experience for years to come.
For more info on Real ID, check out our Real ID page and FAQ located at http://www.battle.net/realid/ . We look forward to answering your questions about these upcoming forum changes in the thread below.
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25712374700/battle-net-update-upcoming-changes-to-forums/
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And there i got another reason to hate Real ID....
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So now its not safe to just not use RealID to avoid spreading your name, it could be enough to get a bad addon:
http://www.wow.com/2010/07/06/security-flaw-allows-addons-to-expose-full-real-life-names-witho/
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So now its not safe to just not use RealID to avoid spreading your name, it could be enough to get a bad addon:
http://www.wow.com/2010/07/06/security-flaw-allows-addons-to-expose-full-real-life-names-witho/
:lolblizzard:
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(http://www.cad-comic.com/comics/c0a129271278475206.jpg)
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Some blizz guy posted his full name on some 1000+ rage thread about the changes. Then some other people tracked him him down and posted his phone number and found out he still lives with his mother. Then people linked his facebook forcing him to close that as well!
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni
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A guildie in wow mentioned Blizz might be breaking british laws with this. Any of you UK people know if this is true?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10543100.stm
Been waiting for it go mainstream all day.
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Q u o t e:
WoW Players yells: RealID: the blade that destroyed our kingdom...
WoW Players yells: Stand back! Touch that ID and your identity will be scarred for all eternity! I must attempt to commune with the spirits locked away within the forums. Give me space. Back up, please.
Blizzard says: Suscribers! Could it truly be you?
WoW Players says: Blizzard! Dear Blizzard! I... I'm so disapointed.
Blizzard says: Players, you haven't much time. Activision sees what the mods sees. He will be here shortly.
WoW Players says: Activision is here? Maybe I...
Blizzard says: No, girl. Activision is not here. Activision is merely a presence within the Bobby Kotick's mind. A dwindling presence...
WoW Players says: But Blizzard, if there's any hope of reaching Activision. I... I must try.
Blizzard says: Subscribers, listen to me. You must destroy the Bobby Kotick. You cannot reason with him. He will sell you and your identity and raise a social-network for his own.
WoW Players says: Tell me how, Blizzard? How do I destroy the CEO?...
Blizzard says: Snap out of it, girl. You must destroy the RealID at the place where its started to spread - at the forums, at the official forums. It is the only way.
WoW Players says: You're right, Blizzard. Forgive me. I... I don't know what got a hold of me. We will deliver this information to all the community within Battle.net.
Blizzard says: There is... something else that you should know about the CEO. Control over the Activision must never be lost. Even if you were to strike down the Bobby Kotick, another would have to take his place. For without the control of its master, Activision would run rampant - destroying all the games you love.
Blizzard says: A grand sacrifice by a noble soul...
WoW Players says: Who could bear such a burden?
Blizzard shakes his head.
Blizzard says: I do not know, Players. I suspect that the piece of racionality that might be left inside Activision is all that holds Bobby Kotick from annihilating Azeroth.
WoW Players says: Then maybe there is still hope...
The far door opens and Bobby Kotick appears!
Blizzard says: No, Players! ARRRRRRGHHHH... He... He is coming. You... You must...
Bobby Kotick yells: SILENCE, PEON!
Bobby Kotick banishes Blizzard to the abyss.
Bobby Kotick yells: So you wish to commune in a social network? You shall have your wish.
Bobby Kotick summons in RealID and Facebook, then retraces his steps back to the north.
Bobby Kotick yells: RealID, Facebook. Bring their identities to my chamber when you are through.
RealID yells: As you wish, my lord.
Facebook yells: As you wish, my lord.
Facebook yells: Slaves of Social Networking, rise to meet your master's call!
WoW Players yells: You won't deny me this, Bobby Kotick! I must know... I must find out...
WoW Players and Forum Users run to follow the Bobby Kotick just as the door closes behind them.
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Wow, ActiBlizz really are getting BAD coverage today:
BBC News - World of Warcraft maker to end anonymous forum logins
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10543100.stm
USA Today - 'WoW' studio Blizzard to require real names on forums
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/07/wow-studio-blizzard-to-require-real-names-on-forums/1
ABC News - Bye-Bye Trolls? Blizzard Forums to Use Real Names
abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=11108240
CVG - Fans rage over Blizzard forum plans
www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=254846
PCGamer (UK) - Why Blizzard’s new forum plan is an epic fail
http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/07/07/why-blizzard%e2%80%99s-new-forum-plan-is-an-epic-fail/
The Register - Blizzard exposes real names on WoW forums
www.reghardware.com/2010/07/07/wow_forums/
About.com - WoW Real ID: A Really Bad Idea
http://antivirus.about.com/b/2010/06/22/wow-real-id-a-really-bad-idea.htm
Ars Technica - Blizzard: post about StarCraft 2? Use your real name
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/07/blizzard-post-about-starcraft-2-use-your-real-name.ars
Gamespy - Blizzard to Require Real Names on Official Forums
uk.pc.gamespy.com/articles/110/1104456p1.html
Kotaku - Blizzard Forums Will Soon Display Your Real Name
http://kotaku.com/5580585/blizzard-forums-will-soon-display-your-real-name
Joystiq - Your real name to appear on Blizzard's official forums
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/06/your-real-name-to-appear-on-blizzards-official-forums/
Inc Gamers - Blizzard Going Too Far With Real ID?
http://www.incgamers.com/Columns/94/blizzard-going-too-far-with-real-id
MTV Multiplayer - Blizzard Cracks Down On Anonymity In Official Forums
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2010/07/07/blizzard-cracks-down-on-anonymity-in-official-forums/
TechEYE.net - Blizzard forces users to show real names: Internet security
they have heard of it
http://www.techeye.net/security/blizzard-forces-users-to-show-real-names
Product Reviews News - WoW Real ID System: Security Flaw Found
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/07/07/wow-real-id-system-security-flaw-found/
ITWorld - Blizzard to share your name with angry video game nerds
http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/113202/blizzard-share-your-name-angry-video-game-nerds
Voodoo Extreme - Is Blizzard's Real ID Safe, Or A Playground For Sexual
Deviants?
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/55728/Is-Blizzards-Real-ID-Safe-Or-A-Playground-For-Sexual-Deviants
Examiner National - World of Warcraft Players WoWed by Blizzard's REALID
announcement
http://www.examiner.com/x-48234-Santa-Ana-Internet-Examiner~y2010m7d7-World-of-Warcraft-Players-WoWed-by-Blizzards-REALID-announcement
EuroGamer - Blizzard forums to require real names
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/blizzard-forums-to-require-real-names
GameFocus - Blizzard To Kill Anonymity On Forums
www.gamefocus.ca/?nav=new&nid=10091
Strategy Informer - Battle.net removes "veil of anonymity" on forums,
real names used
http://www.strategyinformer.com/interstitial.php?
oldurl=http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/8551/battlenet-removes-veil-of-anonymity-on-forums-real-names-used
HuskyStarcraft - Blizzard Forums: First and Last Names [VIDEO]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBwTpHNZDpQ
AusGamers - Blizzard Switching Forums to Real ID System
http://www.ausgamers.com/news/read/2926798
Australian Gamer - Blizzard decide to give out subscribers' real names
http://www.australiangamer.com/news/3239_blizzard_decide_to_give_out_subscribers_real_names.html
Zeroday - Is Korean Law Driving Policy at Blizzard?
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/zeroday/2010/07/07/is-korean-law-driving-policy-at-blizzard/
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That last link might have got it right. Korean law saying if you want to post on a forum with 100000+ users you got to post with real name means activisionblizz does this to not loose out on a korean starcraft marked?
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Am I the only once who doesn't see this as a bad idea?
I mean, really, whats the worst that can happen? As long as your account is secure, they can't learn much from you from just your real name, surely?
(I don't use Facebook or any other social networking site. I suppose that makes a difference?)
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There is a similar (to the Korean law, that is) law proposed in Australia. In EU parliament where privacy has been one of the leading stars in discussion, the hate communities in the Internet has caused many MPs to demand that real names should be used in Internet forums.
The protection of anonymity will disappear from the Internet, that is my prediction. Freedom of speech should not mean the freedom to slander anonymically anybody. In my opinion, with freedom there should always be responsibility.
Then again, I've used my real name practically on all forums I've ever joined (the BC forum being one of the few exceptions, but since I am not allowed to log in there anymore, it doesn't matter :p). Either just my first name, or my full name.
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Am I the only once who doesn't see this as a bad idea?
I mean, really, whats the worst that can happen? As long as your account is secure, they can't learn much from you from just your real name, surely?
(I don't use Facebook or any other social networking site. I suppose that makes a difference?)
Its not the account security thats getting to people - its having their name (their private data which blizz has said in eula's they'll never give out) pshed out there for anyone to see. And once you have a name its a start of a trail. Online enquires - telephone, address etc are made easier, facebook, myspace (if you were dumb enough to use it) etc etc, photobucket, flickr, from a name you can get a persons information, and should they have nicely kicked your ass in a class changes discussion could get all this - if you have it out there - and be retarded enough to use it against you.
Yes if you have the info out there its your own fault, but people shouldnt have to have a starting block. And what about women? They enjoy the anonymity of the internet for a reason, no dicks trying to hit on them, no creepy wierdos ringing them up at night. Then there's the children who play who might have their own name on an account rather than mummy or daddy's etc etc etc
Then there is the fact that do you really want employers googling you and seeing your tech support posts or cry's to nerf paladins/hunters/fury warriors etc etc on the forums when they do find you? (Much easier when you have a name that is not very common).
Antitrolling move my ass, the majority of the 11mill - and any other games' community - arent even aware of forums, the ones who are mainly do good stuff there and use it to build a community feel over and pass on knowledge etc, then of course there is the small number pro-trolls who just try to disrupt (look at coad on eveo) stuff and are all ME ME ME ME who make themselves seem like a biger problem due to signal:noise ratios.
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There is a similar (to the Korean law, that is) law proposed in Australia. In EU parliament where privacy has been one of the leading stars in discussion, the hate communities in the Internet has caused many MPs to demand that real names should be used in Internet forums
Australia, yet another lolcountry doing this because gamers kill people and are destroying the environment.
Fucking treehugging koala fucking peacenicks
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I dont use Facebook or similar things and its still quite easy to find me if you got my real name simply because the government thinks its a great idea to have the lists of what people earn, how much tax they pay and how big their registered fortune is displayed to the public. And because everyone loves to see how their neighbours are doing every goddamn online newspaper fights over who can display the lists in the most interresting way. And then there are the online phonenumber searches. Both the tax lists and number searches displays where you live and what your numbers are. I didnt choose to display those things and it isnt easy to remove them(perhaps the numbers if i make my number hidden).
Imagine then all those people who had problems with people trying to track them down because of simple things like getting kicked out of guilds or loosing a roll? They wont post on these forums any more because they fear it will be easier to track them down.
If anonymity is going to be removed from the internet there is one thing that should be in place first. A proper set of rules on how local police in all the countries involved should handle threats and ways for them to easily take actions across borders. Also there is the problem that local police are often undermanned and flooded with work already so something as minor as a online threat would most likely be brushed aside until someone dies.
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And so my quest to
hunt find and kill welcome those on my nemesis friends list begins....
Elvys gonnna get ya!
laters elv
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgAkWxcPBE&feature=player_embedded
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Split topic from Cata discussions.
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Hello everyone,
I'd like to take some time to speak with all of you regarding our desire to make the Blizzard forums a better place for players to discuss our games. We've been constantly monitoring the feedback you've given us, as well as internally discussing your concerns about the use of real names on our forums. As a result of those discussions, we've decided at this time that real names will not be required for posting on official Blizzard forums.
It's important to note that we still remain committed to improving our forums. Our efforts are driven 100% by the desire to find ways to make our community areas more welcoming for players and encourage more constructive conversations about our games. We will still move forward with new forum features such as conversation threading, the ability to rate posts up or down, improved search functionality, and more. However, when we launch the new StarCraft II forums that include these new features, you will be posting by your StarCraft II Battle.net character name + character code, not your real name. The upgraded World of Warcraft forums with these new features will launch close to the release of Cataclysm, and also will not require your real name.
I want to make sure it's clear that our plans for the forums are completely separate from our plans for the optional in-game Real ID system now live with World of Warcraft and launching soon with StarCraft II. We believe that the powerful communications functionality enabled by Real ID, such as cross-game and cross-realm chat, make Battle.net a great place for players to stay connected to real-life friends and family while playing Blizzard games. And of course, you'll still be able to keep your relationships at the anonymous, character level if you so choose when you communicate with other players in game. Over time, we will continue to evolve Real ID on Battle.net to add new and exciting functionality within our games for players who decide to use the feature.
In closing, I want to point out that our connection with our community has always been and will always be extremely important to us. We strongly believe that Every Voice Matters (http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/about/mission.html), and we feel fortunate to have a community that cares so passionately about our games. We will always appreciate the feedback and support of our players, which has been a key to Blizzard's success from the beginning.
Mike Morhaime
CEO & Cofounder
Blizzard Entertainment
U TURN :)
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yeah pn has now done a u-turn too after seeing that article :D
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That was fast... I was just getting into lotro again damnit!
Just spent hours on my first trip to GA instances with my guardian. Wich also was the first proper go at tanking a instance too. :D
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Fascinating incident, really.
Any change - any change - results in angry posts on forums from people who don't like it. This is a fact of the internet. What's different about this thing is that people simply freaked. The anger came second.
Amazing to think anyone could look at the bad Facebook press of the last twelve months and think, "I want a piece of that." They must have really thought they'd make a lot of money out of it.
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Amazing to think anyone could look at the bad Facebook press of the last twelve months and think, "I want a piece of that." They must have really thought they'd make a lot of money out of it.
2 words.
Bobby Kotick.
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(I don't use Facebook or any other social networking site. I suppose that makes a difference?)
I suppose you not being a girl makes a difference too. ;)
(I don't post on forums so if they had gone through with it, I'd probably just have switched parental controls on to kill the RealID feature and forget about it. ;))