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Title: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: peo on December 15, 2009, 07:12:08 AM
Tower up and running, apart from some guns which don't have crystals yet.
Fueled for about 20 days, silos need emptying in about 7.
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Warcold on December 15, 2009, 08:24:21 AM
what? what? what??
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Mangala on December 15, 2009, 08:30:21 AM
what? what? what??

basically, hrod is gonna make us richer ;)
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: peo on December 15, 2009, 09:30:51 AM
what? what? what??

basically, hrod is gonna make us richer ;)

Less poor at least :)
At a glance the REALLY big profits is in t2 component production. Did a quick calculation at producing ion-thrusters (which use the crystallince carbonide from the reaction as a input).
Production time is 2min (1.5 with a pos) and uses 13 units (at me0) of cryst-carb (and some other crap which is more expensive hehe it is plausible to produce one of them in the same way as cryst-carb though in the same system).
Anyway, that production to use up as large a portion as possible would have to make 769 units/h.
Each array can build 400 units/h.
Each thruster gives a profit of about 10330isk so about 5.7bn isk/month in profit (before pos costs)

Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Caradir on December 15, 2009, 11:27:52 AM
ramming more moons ;)
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Mangala on December 15, 2009, 09:28:01 PM
Hrod - cant recall if you ever setup on the maadimanage site, but you can keep an eye on the tower fuel there:

http://maadim.handsofjustice.co.uk/maadimanage/?module=starbases

If you did :)

(I removed the other pos site as it got broke due to ccp changes and couldnt do shit with it :S)
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Kathras on December 16, 2009, 08:14:20 PM
Hrod - cant recall if you ever setup on the maadimanage site, but you can keep an eye on the tower fuel there:

http://maadim.handsofjustice.co.uk/maadimanage/?module=starbases

If you did :)

(I removed the other pos site as it got broke due to ccp changes and couldnt do shit with it :S)

Hey, thats pretty spiffy.  :)
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Mangala on December 16, 2009, 08:33:50 PM
Is isnt it.

Its not bang up to date - im hoping to get that done before I go away in January, but it does what it does nicely.
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: peo on December 22, 2009, 09:00:25 AM
First harvest done last night :)
The value is about 220m or so, stuff is in kasrasi for now before I bring it to market in Jita.
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Mangala on December 22, 2009, 01:29:27 PM
First harvest done last night :)
The value is about 220m or so, stuff is in kasrasi for now before I bring it to market in Jita.


In a week?

Jesus thats mental!
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: peo on December 22, 2009, 02:57:30 PM
First harvest done last night :)
The value is about 220m or so, stuff is in kasrasi for now before I bring it to market in Jita.


In a week?

Jesus thats mental!

Yep, thats gross not net though :) no fuel costs or such deducted but should be about 190m/week at current prices after fuel.
The reaction produces 10000 crystalline carbonide and 100 crystallite alloy per hour :)
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Caradir on December 22, 2009, 03:19:14 PM
with that income though should cover any costs you guys have these days id guess?
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Mangala on December 22, 2009, 03:27:54 PM
with that income though should cover any costs you guys have these days id guess?

Yeah pretty much :)

I know hrod is after being able to help replace pvp losses and such for us - I think this is also a test platform to see whats possible then he can yell at our alliance - who will listen :D - about doing similar for the alliance as a unit (but not with our moon(s)).
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: peo on December 22, 2009, 03:36:39 PM
Yup.
After the tower has payed for the investment I'll start a cap skills fund and start a ship replacement program, one way or the other.

I've started to scan a lot of moons in gw, found few of any value so far, in either case I might set up more moons to react stuff in in order to get us even more income.
Then I'll hand setups and how-to's to the alliance together with some moon positions.
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: peo on December 22, 2009, 04:38:21 PM
For example did some checks on other reactions. (not using in game figures but from dotlan so with all the precautions from that)
First I noticed that Vanadium Hafnite has increased in value significantly, it is now at 4.5k/unit (was half that a while back) Vanadium and Hafnium has increased as well, especially Vanadium which is now around 1.1k/unit.

So I checked the advanced reactions using it.
There are two, hypersynaptic fibers and phenolic composites.
Fibers are more valuable but they use around 1.8bn/month pure bought materials so out they are out of the question for that reason imo.
However from the less than thorough analysis I found that composites will in total (including intermediates) give about 830m/month in profit before towercosts. That would be placed at a hafnium moon in Bimenen. I do know of a vanadium moon in gw but it is far in, although in the place where I think it can be possible to run mining ops so could be a option to place a pos there but that is also a position I'd rather hand to the alliance to draw them into holding poses in more dangerous areas :)

Total investment would be similar to the first tower I set up (even have the spare tower which haven't been sold yet) so wouldn't impact the wallet that much. Going to check trends and such a bit more before I make any real investment into this. But with these two reactions we would have a approximate income of about 1.6bn/month at current prices after pos fuel.
 
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: peo on January 07, 2010, 07:07:06 AM
First batch sold :)
4.92m units at 142 isk/unit (three weeks production from one tower)
Income: 698640000 isk :)

400m transferred to the ship program wallet the rest went to the master wallet to pay for the fuel for he first month of operation (and get the master wallet above 5bn   ;D)
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Mangala on January 07, 2010, 04:46:07 PM
Thats not bad at all :)

Very well done to you matey.

I'd say first take of the cap skills should be you :D
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: peo on January 07, 2010, 05:18:57 PM
Cap skills fund is still a bit low :) but we'll get there, we'll get there.
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Mangala on February 16, 2010, 04:17:21 AM
Hows this coming along?

Keeping the old income going?
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: peo on February 16, 2010, 06:52:56 AM
Hows this coming along?

Keeping the old income going?

SLOW!!! :(
Price crashed from 140 to well don't know anymore :/ we managed to sell 3m units at 120 but after two weeks of no sales I dropped the price to 110 which seems to be at least in the region of where sales happen. Don't remember exactly how long until next sell time but it is at most 2 weeks so would drop the market further unless we manage to sell it. (and tie up huge amounts of cash).
As long as the price is above 100 it is at least reasonably profitable (800m/month or so) break even is at about 60.
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Macrune on February 16, 2010, 08:18:43 AM
Hows this coming along?

Keeping the old income going?

SLOW!!! :(
Price crashed from 140 to well don't know anymore :/ we managed to sell 3m units at 120 but after two weeks of no sales I dropped the price to 110 which seems to be at least in the region of where sales happen. Don't remember exactly how long until next sell time but it is at most 2 weeks so would drop the market further unless we manage to sell it. (and tie up huge amounts of cash).
As long as the price is above 100 it is at least reasonably profitable (800m/month or so) break even is at about 60.



You have no idea how fixated he has become on these prices.   ;)  its the first and last thing he  mentions every day. Normally with the term 'Oh no' at the start of the conversation  :D
Title: Re: Bimenen tower thread
Post by: Mangala on February 17, 2010, 04:22:18 AM
Hows this coming along?

Keeping the old income going?

SLOW!!! :(
Price crashed from 140 to well don't know anymore :/ we managed to sell 3m units at 120 but after two weeks of no sales I dropped the price to 110 which seems to be at least in the region of where sales happen. Don't remember exactly how long until next sell time but it is at most 2 weeks so would drop the market further unless we manage to sell it. (and tie up huge amounts of cash).
As long as the price is above 100 it is at least reasonably profitable (800m/month or so) break even is at about 60.

Thanks Hrod, good to know whats going on with that and the market really :)