Hands of Justice
What we have played => EVE Online => Topic started by: Mangala on November 22, 2009, 05:43:19 PM
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Apparently they went to PNQYY first :)
http://www.it-kills.us/?a=home
More info as I source it.
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what is funny is the number of Apocs IT lost to a Stealth bomber few ;)
http://www.it-kills.us/?a=losses&page=2 (http://www.it-kills.us/?a=losses&page=2)
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Apparently they went to PNQYY first :)
http://www.it-kills.us/?a=home
More info as I source it.
Hehe maybe I shouldn't say what I think :)
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Apparently they went to PNQYY first :)
http://www.it-kills.us/?a=home
More info as I source it.
Hehe maybe I shouldn't say what I think :)
please do :)
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Apparently they went to PNQYY first :)
http://www.it-kills.us/?a=home
More info as I source it.
Hehe maybe I shouldn't say what I think :)
please do :)
Well.
A fool and his "money" is soon parted ;)
Basically I really hope/think ez folds in flames with their idiotic leadership which means pl loses their biggest pets hehe which is always good.
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EZ currently only hold sov there due to more towers in place, however half of those are currently in reinforced mode. IT have 10 towers placed, so once those in RF go down, and I can imagine they will - and IT replace them, just as dominion ticks, they may get PNQYY sov :D
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Their killboard picture shows that Fountain may just be the staging area for attacking Goons, so wonder how long it will take till Goons interfere.
(http://www.it-kills.us/banner/IT_ForumBanner.jpg)
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Their killboard picture shows that Fountain may just be the staging area for attacking Goons, so wonder how long it will take till Goons interfere.
(http://www.it-kills.us/banner/IT_ForumBanner.jpg)
In the long run yes.
But we'll see how PL can handle them first. They did seem to lose a huge capfight the same day as the invasion started.
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Their killboard picture shows that Fountain may just be the staging area for attacking Goons, so wonder how long it will take till Goons interfere.
goons are already involved, if you check out the 30 apocs destroyed by a few Stealth bombers, some of the pilots there were goons.
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In terms of sheer skill PL DONT - and never really have - need Goons to help take down an entity like IT/Bob/Kenny etc inside PL's own borders; In terms of "ooh bob, lets roadtrip" then Goons will pop up (as they have done) and utilise their "blue against molle" status with PL/SoT to get some action going, but its not an actual request thing;
People go where the targets are and for Goons, IT are an old enemy, so make for good targets.
Now as to whether Goons read as much into IT's banner as others do/will, we'll have to see. Biggest test for IT, will be in the usual post-expansion haze that sees their biggest "enemies" likely to have more people back playing due to expansion newness - although EZ will be evicted by then (I hope).
Tower count in PNQYY is weighing more towards IT, so I can hope as I suggest above.
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EZ will rely on SoT to save there ass again and EZs pilots get to remote rep and sit docked whislt all the fun happens. Well thats what i remember from them, and thats why i grew a hatred of eve and left ;)
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EZ will rely on SoT to save there ass again and EZs pilots get to remote rep and sit docked whislt all the fun happens. Well thats what i remember from them, and thats why i grew a hatred of eve and left ;)
When they aren't chasing 6 man stealth gangs with a CTA 40+ fleet of RR bs....
(damn that was a boring night)
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dwelling on the past stays tempting, eh guys? :D
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dwelling on the past stays tempting, eh guys? :D
Never claimed I didn't keep a grudge ;)
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Seems to have been a huge fight in pnq yesterday :) according to shc local peaked around 1k users.
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They killed my smartbomb! That Tuvan's smartbomb, I sold it to this guy, and now they killed it!!! :'(
http://bulg.otel.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=106971
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At least they dont allow us to setup credit agreements in EVE, he may have still been paying for it if they did :D
Anyways:
13 - IT
2 - EZ
11 - No Towers at time of posting.
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They killed my smartbomb! That Tuvan's smartbomb, I sold it to this guy, and now they killed it!!! :'(
http://bulg.otel.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=106971
that is one strange killmail
SoT killing one of their own?
plus the bomb dropped it wasnt destroyed ;)
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Apparently this guy was on the brink of defecting to IT, so they did a preemptive strike :)
(so sayeth the SHC forums)
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Apparently this guy was on the brink of defecting to IT, so they did a preemptive strike :)
(so sayeth the SHC forums)
IT have been quoted as saying he wasnt (according to kugu and dare I say it, COAD), but either way its pretty hilarious, as is the fact that his CEO has apparently took all the cash from the alliance wallet until such time as something is sorted out about this :)
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14 towers in a few days:
http://www.it-kills.us/?a=home&scl_id=37
Seems to be a "fun" system to be in. Over 1k in local lastnight which isnt too bad and from all sources it seems it was mainly BS fleets going at it too :)
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14 towers in a few days:
http://www.it-kills.us/?a=home&scl_id=37
Seems to be a "fun" system to be in. Over 1k in local lastnight which isnt too bad and from all sources it seems it was mainly BS fleets going at it too :)
So in one week pnq will be IT territory hehe.
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They killed my smartbomb! That Tuvan's smartbomb, I sold it to this guy, and now they killed it!!! :'(
http://bulg.otel.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=106971
that is one strange killmail
SoT killing one of their own?
plus the bomb dropped it wasnt destroyed ;)
Hurley says:
Ok, its time to tell the whole true story and I joined my old corp for the sole purpose of being able to post here in CAOD.
First let's start with a history lesson.
Once upon a time I joined Black Nova Corp from Federation of Freedom Fighters since F-OFF was getting inactive at the time and we had been working with BoB for a while. I joined, enjoyed the pvp, made enough isk to buy a titan and had BNC build me one. It was used very little due to the fact that Molle always put every titan pilot on stand by ready to save him if something went wrong.
Time went by and one day an FC asked if hurley could doomsday a PL gang. The FC was asked 2 simple questions 1) Are goons gone? 2) Are there capitals on standby if this goes badly? Yes, Yes. Doomsday failed, goons were ready and had a spy within BoB for this very occasion. Titan died, Coranor kicked me from the corp. Coranor will say I was leaving anyways or that an example needed to be made of us, but all I did was follow orders and the FC was left unpunished.
This left a bitter hatred of BoB for them kicking me for losing 1 titan, not 5 and for no one amongst the BoB community standing up for me (except for Cleisthenes2). Let me repeat, I'd despise BoB.
I give 0.0 a shot under my own flag (Aggression.) and its fun for a while, but it required setting other alliances blue to accomplish anything which ultimately left us without space. This created a strong hate of Atlas/AAA/RO.
I decide I had been on the Bad side for far too long, I look across to Goons, PL, NC and ultimately choose SoT because I wasn't playing as much as I used to and figured I could play part time with this group more easily than the others.
Back to the Future:
I play part time with SoT just as I predicted, used the Titan once or twice and in September of this year I buy a house and RL calls me away from the game a bit more than normal. I sent a corp mail explaining that I would be absent from game until time allowed more play time. I also get a Great Dane puppy who really takes up my time and decide that life is just too busy anymore to be a Titan pilot. 2 weeks ago I decide that I do want to sell Hurley and the titan and just be a normal, everyday pilot.
As thanksgiving week approaches I log on and prepare a few bs's to join the fighting since thanksgiving break was going to give me that chance. I notice that my roles on all of my characters have been removed and decide to throw my navy apoc and paladin in, just in case they are really going to kick me out. Having your roles removed without any warning scares you into packing just a little bit.
As I place a 5 ships into my hangar I realize I don't have a cyno and decide that I'll just move stuff later and just before I decide to log off, the tower goes offline, fleet comes out of warp and I just sit in shock trying to ask why. PL cap fleet jumps in to finish me off and while I'm in structure I finally decide they really are going to kill me and set off the DD before I go down.
So, you probably know all of these details, so here are the ones you don't know.
1) I never did remove my roles, SoT didn't even verify this before they assumed I was leaving and had removed them myself.
2) Directly after the event, Jolinar and Sabre Wulf decide that they were wrong and killed me wrongfully and try to figure out compensation.
3) Jolinar ransoms all isk and assets of corp to cause a meeting and for grappler to appear.
4) grappler appears and comes out with new evidence to support his director post stating that upon logging in I must die. Directors agree that "what happened, happened and is in the past" and inform me that no, I can't stay in alliance or corp and that they will give me nothing. grappler also lies to other directors stating that he attempted to contact me through evemail and convo's to inquire of my inactivity, both of which never happened.
5) Evidence against me includes:
An IT forum post from someone asking if their quote friend "hurley" can rejoin IT 3 days before my death.
A corp history that includes BoB
The fact that several other ex f-off members have quit and joined IT
That I removed my roles and was evacuating (even though they later discovered that they had removed my roles)
6) Evidence that they were wrong:
Witness of Lanaqwik from 2 weeks earlier that I was looking for a buyer to hurley and the titan (why would I join a new alliance when I was selling)
My well documented history of hating BoB since my exile
I did not remove my roles
I was never planning on leaving DVRN, I was simply inactive due to RL.
I am not so stupid as to try to save low valued bs's with a titan when I am supposedly joining the enemy. I have 3 carriers in wy- to do that with at a cheaper and faster way.
IT never invited me to join nor did I ever ask.
So, in conclusion (yes I know this was long), SoT would rather sweep their mistake under the carpet than admit that they were stupid enough to fall for obvious propaganda/meta gaming. I mean, I didn't think when I joined that their leadership could be so gullible and stupid. I will most likely be selling Hurley without a titan or implants and Cosmo will be looking for a new corp as outlined in the recruitment thread. Any other specific questions, ask in here and I'll do my best to answer. However, the overall final answer is:
I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
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1 EH tower left standing. Should be out of reinf shortly then it dies.
1 week from today (Patch day) IT should have sov 1 and also gets the 7 days grace period to upgrade the system...
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So it should tick over today will PNQYY - gives IT a week, plus the grace period as it turns out. Looks like they have a base in fountain now.
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So it should tick over today will PNQYY - gives IT a week, plus the grace period as it turns out. Looks like they have a base in fountain now.
Weird that PL haven't gone all out on them.
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Seems to have been a battle there yesterday, with large goon participation. The fun part seems to be that goons refused to set pl pets (ez etc) blue so they were shooting them as well as poses and IT haha.
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Seems to have been a battle there yesterday, with large goon participation. The fun part seems to be that goons refused to set pl pets (ez etc) blue so they were shooting them as well as poses and IT haha.
/me loves goons :)
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Found this post on COAD:
Event horizon pets lost a carrier in r3w. R3w is their jbridge to yrnj, and this was their last evacuation route.
What is left of their battered forces tried to fight IT, and lost horribly. The carrier was fit for RR armor with 2 cap RR reppers, BUT the rag-tag fleet they assembled had the rest of their shield tanking RAVENS.
In the end, it was another slaughter of the pets who finally had to learn PVP the hard way.
Event horizon still has 49 pos's in fountain AND about 20 low sec pos's in aridia, so the battle now moves to the "mop up" phases of moon grabbing, land grabbing, and popping corp hangers stuffed to the brim of rat loot.
Since the bob attack hit PNQ so fast after losing the dread fleet in syndicate, event horizon didnt take it seriously.
Almost their entire cap fleet is locked in pnq as sov flips. Rumors estimate over 50 cap ships are locked down in pnq, including 4 rorquals, 3 jfreighters 30+ carriers and the rest dreads.
Also event horizon put what is left of their building trit on market-over 500 000 000 units, and the stopped trying to make t1 ships to fight.
Last nite, a goon squad went to pnq with minor success but they lost, and also a pandemic legion medium POS as a staging base was destroyed.
Once sov flips the question is this:
1) will IT mop up some moons around pnq?
2) will they island hop deeper into fountain?
3) will they take g95 which is the renter center for all the rest of the PL Sot Pets
stay tuned!
Sums it up quite well :)
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Overall PL seems actually "happy" with this invasion - its by an actually competent force (even after the large cap loss they suffered over the weekend they stepped up and did this) and is by all accounts giving good fights.
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I seriously doubt eh had that amount of caps.
By all accounts when we were there (and I doubt they have increased it significantly since then) eh could field around 10 combat caps.
Several of those were in flashtrooper (which are in gpc now) and in the two corps they booted just before we left.
So I would guesstimate that they could at most field around 15-20 caps. (combat that is no clue about the non-combat ships).
In either case I suspect them to fold soonish.
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I seriously doubt eh had that amount of caps.
By all accounts when we were there (and I doubt they have increased it significantly since then) eh could field around 10 combat caps.
Several of those were in flashtrooper (which are in gpc now) and in the two corps they booted just before we left.
So I would guesstimate that they could at most field around 15-20 caps. (combat that is no clue about the non-combat ships).
In either case I suspect them to fold soonish.
and they would all be fitted for RR as that seems to be their foolish tactics :)
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I seriously doubt eh had that amount of caps.
By all accounts when we were there (and I doubt they have increased it significantly since then) eh could field around 10 combat caps.
Several of those were in flashtrooper (which are in gpc now) and in the two corps they booted just before we left.
So I would guesstimate that they could at most field around 15-20 caps. (combat that is no clue about the non-combat ships).
In either case I suspect them to fold soonish.
and they would all be fitted for RR as that seems to be their foolish tactics :)
Considering that MD wanted to practice killing posses with carriers I don't really know what it matters if they had lots of caps anyway hehe
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New Sig:
I'm sorry I didn't realize we'd changed our name to Event Horizon, fit our posses with blasters, cit torp launchers and damps and managed not to defend or time a single one properly.
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Jesus look at the cost of the destruction they wrought taking and renaming beer shack over the past few days:
http://www.killboard.it/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=41
1176 Ships killed (67.31B ISK) 504 Ships lost (51.91B ISK)
Thats some damage right there.
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New Sig:
I'm sorry I didn't realize we'd changed our name to Event Horizon, fit our posses with blasters, cit torp launchers and damps and managed not to defend or time a single one properly.
Haha
My guess is that PL will not accept eh being pets much longer given their inability to do anything. At least fitting poses should be easy enough.
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Change PL to SOT. As thats whom they bought PNQYY/EH Beer shack off according to the thread on Kugu and if anyone should know about some of the money stuff in PL its VS.
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Change PL to SOT. As thats whom they bought PNQYY/EH Beer shack off according to the thread on Kugu and if anyone should know about some of the money stuff in PL its VS.
Yes but PL will still have to accept EH being pets :)
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Seems there are rumours about IT going for g95 now and they had a skirmish in our old home mn5 :)
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http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/PNQY-Y
IT has pnq sov
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Seems Event Horizion are being evicted sharpish from Fountain, lost another system yesterday (CL-) to a random alliance (Aeternus), who played fish in a barrell with ships evaccing :)
Add in Z3 last week (to SOT) and well its a awful christmas for them!
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Seems Event Horizion are being evicted sharpish from Fountain, lost another system yesterday (CL-) to a random alliance (Aeternus), who played fish in a barrell with ships evaccing :)
Add in Z3 last week (to SOT) and well its a awful christmas for them!
No goal, no leadership alliance. Colour me surprised haha (or not).
My guess is that they will lose most their newer corps and especially the non-german ones fairly soon.
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They still have a few systems - 14 or so - but going on memory they were quiet overall, not used that much by anyone for much except sitting at poses.
They'll lose them though as poses no longer count towards sov as we know, and theres no way they can safely jump in ships carrying the new infrastructure/flags etc without them getting popped by roaming gangs :)
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They still have a few systems - 14 or so - but going on memory they were quiet overall, not used that much by anyone for much except sitting at poses.
They'll lose them though as poses no longer count towards sov as we know, and theres no way they can safely jump in ships carrying the new infrastructure/flags etc without them getting popped by roaming gangs :)
Especially given that the I-hugs require a freighter ;) So they would need a titan JB to get it going and with the lack of cash they always had they can probably not afford a outpost anyway which makes sov basically worthless.
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1225521
PL drama (fake or not I don't know fun to read though)
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EH? **** those useless bags of ****! All they are good for is bombers and they kill
themsevels most of the time
Viper quote hehe
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1225521
PL drama (fake or not I don't know fun to read though)
Excellent reading material. Obviously skewed pov as Gobbins is bitter, but still awesome reading nevertheless.
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getting too old to read loads of small letters, gave up after 1 post
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This makes our decision to get out seem prophetic. I almost wish we were still in the Alliance just so we could witness the upcoming failure cascade first hand. :P
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This makes our decision to get out seem prophetic. I almost wish we were still in the Alliance just so we could witness the upcoming failure cascade first hand. :P
Haha.
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GK are blue to PL it seems and have been since IT invaded....
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GK are blue to PL it seems and have been since IT invaded....
I'm SOOOO surprised.
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GK are blue to PL it seems and have been since IT invaded....
I'm SOOOO surprised.
:)
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IT have fought off a goon assault of some large numbers in PNQY this weekend, and also gained sov in Z3 :)
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1234039
True?
Cippa leaving PL/oshit for IT and taking a heap of shit with him?
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Not heard anything, hell seen nothing on the usual sources and havent been ingame today to hear anything...
(Viper was selling Dreads recently too...).
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Well, Cipp is now in IT.
But no mention of stolen dreads...
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Seems SoT is in some kind of cascade mode. Most non-bulgarian corps are leaving.
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From SHC
EZ has seemed to have forgotten that you need to pay the sov bill and lost sov in pretty much system they had
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Event_Horizon./changes
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Lack of sov seems to start to influence membership there now as well.
But the likely reason is that EZ didn't have any cash.
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So a SOT corp leaves - also holds sov in Y-2 for the alliance. Sov drops, IT cap the station then online a tcu. The NC plus PL/Goons all decide they'll jump in to try and stop it last night in US prime. IT had 600+ in system with a grid they'd been on all day (pos+TCU) including 200+ caps and 16-20 titans....
PL and friends lost 4 titans, stacks of caps etc as they tried to jump into a system whose node hadnt been reinforced and they subsequently lagged out something crazy. Unless you were already preloaded into the system by sitting there all day!
Quite amusing really. Espeically when those titans got DD'd by lots of other titans altogether.
IT's KB link of the event: http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_related&kll_id=121291
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Hmm.. The dread market might turn up a bit soon :)
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http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Event_Horizon.
Failcascade?? They are our size now.
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Smf missed the dot, but looked them up!
Jesus thats epic :)
Fnord went to the "new improved" IRC (Now a Solar/xDeath pet alliance)
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Smf missed the dot, but looked them up!
Jesus thats epic :)
Fnord went to the "new improved" IRC (Now a Solar/xDeath pet alliance)
Prost seem to have gone a step up though, Majesta Empire. (noemy etc)
The majority to the "exodus alliance" which I guess is a temporary alliance used while evacing stuff.
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Look at fountain now:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/influence.png
IT are certainly showing up on there in the old familiar "bob" blue.
Basically its a clean up for them in Fountain now, SOT/PL gave up - SOT cos they cascaded, PL cos they "didnt want that space anyways"!!!
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Look at fountain now:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/influence.png
IT are certainly showing up on there in the old familiar "bob" blue.
Basically its a clean up for them in Fountain now, SOT/PL gave up - SOT cos they cascaded, PL cos they "didnt want that space anyways"!!!
Yeah right ::)
Their claims after the fact "we really didn't want that space" rings so damn hollow.
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We didnt want that space anyway is an ongoing EVE joke/meme. Bob started it way back when iirc :)
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We didnt want that space anyway is an ongoing EVE joke/meme. Bob started it way back when iirc :)
Perhaps, but take VS for example who basically has said in a few places that due to CCP nerfing their moon income they didn't think it was worth defending. Personally I think they are emo-rage-stopping to defend due to CCP changing the game they were used to.
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(PL currently has 223 individuals in it, around 280 pre-Dominion,
Rather interesting tidbit about PL numbers from VS.
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(PL currently has 223 individuals in it, around 280 pre-Dominion,
Rather interesting tidbit about PL numbers from VS.
Would pan right to be honest as theres 949 pilots in PL. So roughly 1main+2alts each?.
The drop could be explained away by Section XIII leaving though.
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Fallout from PL withdrawal is being seen.
Shamis is basically kicking OShit out of PL.
This is going to be a very long post so bear with me:
I've decided to not add any specific logs for the time being, I don't feel like digging most of them up right now but I'll probably post them sometime tomorrow.
During the initial stages of the Fountain invasion it was obvious (to most) that PL wasn't going to be able to hold space. Ops weren't being lead, our allies (SOT) were cascading and nobody was really dedicated to keeping a region few of us saw the value in. PL was burning out fairly quickly and OSHIT decided that we needed some time to "have fun".
If you've never played the sov warfare game, having fun has nothing to do with it. At this point neither side was really pushing and no ops were being posted for PL to join. Anyway, OSHIT heads to lowsec for a weekend and hotdrop people with faction BS. Shamis basically said this was me "killing PL" and that I took "half the alliance to lowsec" while they were "defending fountain". This is something he's still been going on about until today.
After Fountain, Shamis decided to move the alliance to Geminate and reset all standings so we could get "back to our roots". Most of OSHIT was cool with this until we got to Geminate, settled down and had, yet again, no ops posted. I decided that it was a better use of our time to secure some corp income that we'd lost during the Fountain invasion and, once again, Shamis felt as if we were "killing PL" by not having all of our members in Geminate while nothing was going on.
I'm not completely blameless in this. I could have been running ops the entire time we've been in Geminate, however I'm not much drawn to ~wulfpax~ and we lacked the numbers to do much more than that, even with the entirety of OSHIT in Geminate. Most of OSHIT was chilling around the same area of lowsec and we'd been putting some tech moons into reinforced (which nearly lost us three motherships and 15 carriers last weekend).
We openly talked about leaving during the latest op and Shamis decided to convo me about it
PL RE-ORG
So as most of you already know, due to some failtrain forum permissions, a post that I made, in snigg inner circle has been released to CAOD by viper. I can't say I blame him for releasing said post since he was the primary target of the post.
I had hoped to handle all these issues much more elegantly, but now that the dirt's out there is no point in hiding from it.
To the people of OSHIT
I feel that viper creates a hostile environment within PL. Trolling is fine when it's funny, but with viper it is typically malicious...usually with the intent of undermining the authority or reasoning of some other leader in PL, whether it be myself, or another ceo, or some FC. This had a great deal to do with why Angel resigned, and I hoped things would improve after that, but they haven't.
While OSHIT was a functioning member of the alliance, contributing a significant number (nearly 40%) of our active pilots, I was willing to put up with a lot, but now that viper and/or oshit has decided to isolate themselves from PL, there really is no point in tolerating the situation any longer.
There have always been several unwritten rules in PL. Use alliance voice comms, invite other people to your gangs, live in the same space as the rest of the alliance. These things help create unity in the alliance, and without that there is no point in being in an alliance at all.
So, to you the people of OSHIT: I very much like flying with your active pilots. I'm done with the trolls, and I'm done with the drama. If your corporation elects a new ceo that isn't an asshole, AND relocates to live with the alliance AND starts using alliance comms regularly, then you are welcome to stay. If your answer is no, then I would kindly like to invite any active oshit member to join snigg if you wish to stay with PL. Your are of course welcome to apply to other corps as well but I cannot speak for their ceo's/recruiters.
To the people of FCUK
Get your leadership and your capitals to geminate in the next 3 days or get out. If you cannot do this, or don't want to do this, then once again I would like to kindly invite any members that wish to stay in PL to join another corp.
To the people of NESW
You've been with us a long time. And you still have several awesome members. But as of late you typically have 1-2 guys online maximum, and you've been involved in a lot of activities that I really don't like very much such as running around in gangs with hostile entities and chilling in empire all day. Sort your corp out, and talk to me. This needs fixing. If you can't sort things out, then again, please join another PL corp if you wish to stay in the alliance. I expect some changes within the week.
To the rest of you, keep doing what you're doing, but keep looking for ways to improve your organizations. I'm sure many of you will ask why I'm not also raging at BOS/COVEN/Blabs so I'll explain: they don't have many active members, but the ones they do have, are active, and in PL fleets daily. They aren't fucking about on the other side of the universe and they aren't flying around with hostiles, and they are typically on PL comms... Obviously these corporations could all use some more active members, but that is a problem plaguing all of PL at the moment.
Another theme with the other corps is they tend not to cause me any drama, which I like very much.
Notice
Any corporations that wish to leave the alliance will be given safe passage out of geminate.
So? What will happen to PL now? Basically seems to be only Snigg left after this happens.