Hands of Justice
What we have played => EVE Online => Topic started by: peo on August 16, 2009, 05:06:33 PM
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I've been trying to think (so don't come with the fire extinguishers).
My will to try to do anything that gives more cash and influence to the alliance lead (Derida, AM and MD afaik) is basically 0. The entire handling of the debacle with the-fallen and vyst is the straw that broke the camels back, not that they were kicked but that the lead flat out refused timely information when asked and even ridiculed the questions.
This together with the complete silence on any vision of the future for the alliance makes my skin crawl.
Quite frankly, I doubt the alliance has any real future. What I can see is that PL/SoT might be interested in the renter alliances and EZ for that "pendulum" effect CCP is working at for the sov overhaul. However that will be at gun-point so to speak. At most we would be used and allowed to use most areas as now, more likely is that we would be exploited and crammed into crap constellations where the only realistic endeavor is to rat. Add to this that PL/SoT couldn't care less about GK or any other small roamers that kill their pets.
It all just feels "meh" to me.
Risking assets and time to improve PL space in order to enrich one of the richest alliances in the game? It isn't for me.
So I'd like to know what do the rest of you want?
Myself I've been thinking seriously about npc 0.0 with a base in low sec. More exactly around Great-Wildlands, Molden Heath and Metropolis. It would involve some poses if we can find decent moons (cad/chrom) in order to fund pew pew and possibly also building caps since it is fun :)
So? Any thoughts? Am i a moron wanting something more?
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You know full well I agree with you :D
Been mulling over going flashy red too (I have hisec alts), so a lowsec/npc 0.0 base, roaming area would be handy!
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And derelik :P had forgot about that :)
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So when can I tell the alliance we plan to leave? (wait till just before we drop towers? :D)
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So when can I tell the alliance we plan to leave? (wait till just before we drop towers? :D)
Lets get some more input ;)
But yes, as close to the time we tear them down as possible.
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I'm all for a leave fountain.
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Same.
Will have a chat with Bethor after I get back from my holiday (19th-24th). Ask what lo-sec is like, explore possibility of joining their alliance etc.
Will then discuss this with you and see what you think. Not exactly sure where they are based, but it is Minnie losec somewhere.
Ofc, moving there on our own is a possibility too. Or mebbe our 'older' members have some strings they can pull?
Anyway, I would like to move out.
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I never really got interested in fountain life. Every time i was about to get ready to give it a go something happened in the alliance or with other things that put me off.
I am all up for moving out of fountain(wich happens right after moving tons of crap down there but oh well).
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Just had a chat with Bethor already.
Seems their alliance keeps a NRDS / no-piracy policy, so might not be the best option for the triggerhappy amongst us.
Nuf reds to shoot there though.
They are here: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Molden_Heath/Hedaleolfarber
alliance website: http://www.seals-alliance.org
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what is interesting though is that 2-3 corps in the alliance are active in Wspace, what I understand 1 corp already has (a) base(s) in there and Beth's corp is planning to get there too soon.
Mang(/whoever), if you have questions, convo Beth (or Sin mebbe)
If ppl have other options/ideas though, plz explore them ;)
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My opinion is currently: go at it ourselves.
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To be more clear, cooperate and be friendly sure thing. But not join with them fully. Base in our own "space" and do our own thing.
I guess they are industrials so could for example be possible to cooperate on remote mining ops or such in GW but I'd prefer we be able to do that ourselves as well if the interest is there. And of course I think we should operate NBSI in general and try to find friends in GW for example.
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Well, my main concern is that we are only with 5-10 active ppl. Therefore, we shouldnt set our goals too high, IMHO
Does anyone know what Zigz' plans are?
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Well, my main concern is that we are only with 5-10 active ppl. Therefore, we shouldnt set our goals too high, IMHO
Does anyone know what Zigz' plans are?
Nope :/
edit: sure we shouldn't set our sights to high.
But I don't think the idea is that far fetched to roam around GW shooting stuff and having some industry on the side to pay for losses :)
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hmm, usually only one or two (three?!!) of us join an op at a time
plus we won't be able to defend a POS effectively on our own(s)
i'm not as optimistic as you it seems ;)
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hmm, usually only one or two (three?!!) of us join an op at a time
plus we won't be able to defend a POS effectively on our own(s)
i'm not as optimistic as you it seems ;)
yeah, we're not very active, and we're very small.
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True enough that we won't be able to defend a pos against a full scale attack.
The question is how often do those take place?
POS warfare is hated by almost everyone, so the benefit to do it needs to be large enough to risk anything. I seriously doubt anyone will do it for a chrom or cad moon defended by a large tower and if they do it is going to be forces that can field multiple dreads which means even a alliance with nerf and that alliance is not likely to be of much use.
Also, true that we are small, but we have altitis.
We look much larger than we are.
I'm not against cooperating with them and all but I'm hesitant to join another alliance, it might be better to just have a friendship and cooperation pact so to speak that if they need help we help and vice versa.
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Seems Zigs' is likely to stay.
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Seems Zigs' is likely to stay.
With us or in Fountain?
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Seems Zigs' is likely to stay.
With us or in Fountain?
In fountain.
Edit:
Just to clarify, I'm not trying to make anyone elses mind up about anything nor is the original thing something that I proposed easily.
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Well, me myself had decided before you proposed it really.
The reactions of the others seemed rather natural (if not eager) too, so wouldnt worry too much...
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Seems Zigs' is likely to stay.
With us or in Fountain?
In fountain.
Edit:
Just to clarify, I'm not trying to make anyone elses mind up about anything nor is the original thing something that I proposed easily.
Dont worry too much, ive been leaving fountain since before Red ever took my first lot of stuff there, it just took me a long time to do it ;)
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I tend to agree that moving out of fountain is the best. I am disillusioned by the lack of defense EZ puts up. The one Op I did join was a cluster f*%k. Being a pet to PL/SoT is not my idea of a good time. Luckily I don't have many assets to move so it wont take long.
-Rexorr
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I tend to agree that moving out of fountain is the best. I am disillusioned by the lack of defense EZ puts up. The one Op I did join was a cluster f*%k. Being a pet to PL/SoT is not my idea of a good time. Luckily I don't have many assets to move so it wont take long.
-Rexorr
Just get the stuff you want moved to mn5.