Hands of Justice
What we have played => EVE Online => Topic started by: peo on August 11, 2009, 06:27:00 AM
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When reading the 0.0 update thread in kugutsumen I noticed they mentioned EZ (yay I guess haha).
They noticed us for the simple reason we lost 2 corps, THE-FALLEN and now yesterday also Vituperated hysteria (VYST).
I'd really really really really like to know what the heck is going on.
Standings with them? Why they left? If the alliance lead doesn't tell I'll try to send a evemail to one of the leaders of T-FAL to ask if he can spill the beans.
Afterall it is nearly 60 pilots and iirc those two corps were among the more pvp oriented (and english speaking) while alliance lead keeps recruiting germanspeaking industrial corps.
What is the intention?
Could you try to press the issue mang? It is after all rather important to know for us. If nothing else what damn standings we should have for the corps that have left.
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posted this on EZ forum
Why do we have to read this
Quote:
Two corps, containing about fifty-five members when combined, have left Event Horizon.
here http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?t=4207&page=47 and not here: http://www.eventhorizon.se ?? ??
Thanks,
Saf
Let's see what happens...
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Derida's reply
do you believe everything what you read? :ugeek:
maybe it´s true maybe not, you´ll know the truth when it´s time for the truth.
Been brooding on a reply for a while now, but everything sounds like a big 'lashing out' and I don't have 500M.
Ah, I know what to reply now!
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my reply
stop being a dick and just give a straight answer.
the lack of straight information for alliance members will be its downfall.
p.s. you dick
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Standings with them?
Corps own, or is what we inherited from the alliance?
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T-Fall are back:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Event_Horizon./corporations
Vit are still out.
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Noemy spilled a bit in a convo to me in game, basically they are keeping standings to remove stuff and so on. More info will be given in due course, but they dont want to say much more as it would make whatever the situation is worse and she/he cannot tell me details of that (i tried fishing if my own way).
/hush
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/hush:
[16:23:26] Yue Rubens > and now fallen back in eh?
[16:23:36] Yue Rubens > can you make up your mind? ^^
[16:24:30] Yue Rubens > first they are kicked with no reason given except "we don't need something like them", then there is no official order to set them blue, then they use our jb and I refund them 100 mil for killing their drake
[16:24:40] Yue Rubens > and now they're back
[16:24:41] Yue Rubens > whatever
[16:25:04] Erik Thule > you will get informed asap
[16:26:27] Yue Rubens > don't get me wrong I think it's cool they're back
[16:26:37] Yue Rubens > just we had the same scenario with barons ;)
[16:27:49] Erik Thule > es scheint mir Du traust der ally-lead wohl nichts mehr eh? wir kümmern uns schon um T-Fall keine sorge
[16:28:23] Yue Rubens > mal langsam erik klar trau ich euch, mir geht's eher um die memberbase und was die davon halten. aber bin schon leise
[16:28:35] Erik Thule > am Freitag nach der DT sende ich eine mail. darin wird alles erklärt
[16:28:45] Erik Thule > bis dahin wäre ich dankbar wenn das gemeckern aufhört
[16:29:35] Yue Rubens > der ceo channel ist doch dazu da das wir sagen können was uns durch den kopf geht ohne das die member davon beeinflusst werden
[16:29:43] Yue Rubens > sollte kein meckern sein
[16:30:37] Erik Thule > ist scho ok. bin halt extrem gereitzt zur zeit. T-Fall und Terv´s corp haben schon genug stress verursacht. und es ist nicht immer leicht solche probleme sofort zu lösen
[16:31:26] Yue Rubens > war auch mal ally head erik, ich weiss das ;)
From CEO channel - looks like all will be known Friday...
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My guess is this had something to do with people of these corps being among the ones causing the mail about ratting and fines on smacktalking and insults to come out.
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Terv (Vituperated iirc is his corp), was free with the often necessary insults yes :D
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Still idiotic to kick them.
At least I know T-FAL has a significant cap fleet, heck jasonpete has several caps by himself and can use them and isn't afraid to use them for other than shooting poses. (why MD think that carriers need training to shoot poses I don't know).
But I have no idea... there seems to be a sentiment among at least FT that the alliance (or TF) should build a amarr outpost ::)
I tried to be diplomatic and basically say "I don't think it is wise to spend that amount of cash on PL good favours"
Didn't mention that as long as we can't get our own space we are pets to be kicked at will.
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heh, no you will get your information no worries, but sometimes it´s better to hold information back. this is simply because often you have agreements with corporation who will be expelled. to keep information protects them in the same way to get their stuff out and sort their things without getting a shit load of convos what happend.
regarding the resets, you get informed soon enough when to reset whom.
aswell to give too much information out at the wrong time leads to lots of historys causing confusion and rumors.
yes there will be a change in the playerbase within event horizon, it will drop and it will grow in the same time. we gonna let your ceo´s know on friday/saturday what exactly happened and will happen.
I´m not authorized to give exact intel. we haevn´t backstabed amyome and always gave out information right in time. we try do our job as best as we can.
Lol?
"sometimes it is better to hold information back"
When in our 4 months in event horizon have we EVER gotten ANY information about ANYTHING.
I think he doesn't understand that we need to know what the heck is going on, what kind of recruitment policies are they using? Seems to be "germany industrial corps in, english pvp corps out" which doesn't exactly benefit the alliance in the long run.
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Mang, you should have gone in and demanded they speak english.
Seems as soon as anything important needs discussing they revert to german and ofc silence.
Meh...
"don't you trust the ally lead"
Probably a good thing i'm not allowed to say how much I trust them.
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Mang, you should have gone in and demanded they speak english.
Seems as soon as anything important needs discussing they revert to german and ofc silence.
Meh...
"don't you trust the ally lead"
Probably a good thing i'm not allowed to say how much I trust them.
your free to say what you like here matey we work that way ;)
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Mang, you should have gone in and demanded they speak english.
Seems as soon as anything important needs discussing they revert to german and ofc silence.
Meh...
"don't you trust the ally lead"
Probably a good thing i'm not allowed to say how much I trust them.
your free to say what you like here matey we work that way ;)
hehe I know.
I trust them about as much as think Pol Pot was a nice guy.
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Vituperated:
Good evening ladies and gentlemen,
a few days ago we expelled the above mentioned Corp, because one of their members TheRage1, an alt-character of their CEO Tervilious, offended an SOT member in Sniggs-channel:
[ 2009.08.07 23:59:29 ] TmLeafs > u guys gotta start linking system names
?[ 2009.08.07 23:59:45 ] Auric Megastryke > Johann Jeneau c-n
?[ 2009.08.07 23:59:47 ] Rhonda Fizzleflint > Galdoth Rapier jumped to G95
?[ 2009.08.07 23:59:53 ] TheRage1 > there are no names retard
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:11 ] Thimerion > lol event calling sot retards
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:17 ] TmLeafs > hmm
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:23 ] Thimerion > how many times have we saved pnqy now?
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:31 ] patpat69 > ding ding.......... round 1
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:36 ] feffrey > 3 reds and 1 neut in g95 atm
Also this corp got fined by me with 500 million isk.
Tervilious also refused to pay this fine. So they got expelled.
To give the normal members the chance to avacuate from fountain i promised their diplomate Jasanpete that we wont change our standings until saturday 15th august after DT.
Pls do not engage them till then.
Best regards
Erik Thule
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Erick again this time on Tfal:
Good evening ladies and gentlemen,
The Fallen will leave us tonight definite.
One of their Direx Thearrowofapollo offended a SOT member massivly:
[ 2009.08.07 23:59:29 ] TmLeafs > u guys gotta start linking system names
?[ 2009.08.07 23:59:45 ] Auric Megastryke > Johann Jeneau c-n
?[ 2009.08.07 23:59:47 ] Rhonda Fizzleflint > Galdoth Rapier jumped to G95
?[ 2009.08.07 23:59:53 ] TheRage1 > there are no names retard
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:11 ] Thimerion > lol event calling sot retards
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:17 ] TmLeafs > hmm
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:23 ] Thimerion > how many times have we saved pnqy now?
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:31 ] patpat69 > ding ding.......... round 1
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:36 ] feffrey > 3 reds and 1 neut in g95 atm
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:42 ] TmLeafs > link....the....system...name....lugnuts
?[ 2009.08.08 00:00:47 ] thearrowofapollo > about as many times as youve had slept with your own mother?
As we do not need such drama, especialy not at this time, they got fined by me with 500 million isk.
They refused to pay this charge. So they got expelled.
After some talks, we let them back in, to sort their stuff and to give their normal members the chance to move out of fountain in good.
The timeframe given for their evacuation was until Friday after DT.
Condition for this arrangement was that Arrow will keep his mouth shut on all channels and do NOT cause any more drama´s.
Today he caused another drama in ally channel by psoting a racist, sexist and just bloody stupid joke about ethoipain people.
2009.08.12 13:46
[12:53:22] thebowofapollo > how do you stop a ethoipain from drowning?
[12:53:52] thebowofapollo > take ur foot of his head
[12:54:05] thebowofapollo > what do you call a ethopian family portrait?
[12:54:12] thebowofapollo > a barcode
[12:54:14] thebowofapollo > mwhahaha
[12:55:27] thebowofapollo > what do you call a prositute with no arms or legs?
[12:55:35] thebowofapollo > cash and carry
With this he nullified our agreement about the timeframe of their leaving.
The Fallen will get expelled every minute as iam typing.
Please reset the standings to them at 20:00 eve time 12th, August.
Best regards
Erik Thule
PS: doing things like this is NOT funny. It appears to me that Arrow still thinks he was just making fun or somewhat. Me personaly cant accept such behavior. Just my 2 Pfenning
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PS - the above posts are CEO section forum copypasta, so hush :D
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Allymails from arrowofapollo
2009.08.12 19:26
Evening Ladies and gents.
Well the time has come to spill some beans about the allaince and as the leadership isn't going to share i thought i would. We join the alliance 2 months ago under the impression that is was a stable enviroment for us to develop as a corp we met many guys in alliance with the same goals as us PVP was the main one.
After reading SOT forums and discussions within the leadership we found out that the the forces of SOT and PL are going to ask EH to lose sov and with draw from fountain unless they join the new renters alliance they are forming up, they alliance leadership has known the date when they have been told but wont pass this on because they beleive PL and SOt will see sense.
The reason we are leaving the alliance is that I and my fellow FC terv said something in sniggs which i dont regret saying on bit and yes i was proud of sticking up for the alliance but because the alliance fear SOT the backed SOT and Fined both corps 500 MIl this wasnt paid
2009.08.12 19:26
After speaking wiht Aftermath we managed to gain access to alliance so we could remove our assets we did this as quick as possible within two days.
Since we have been chilling and having fun a few of us in alliance were laughing and joking in alliance chat and ERIK the TOOL found this harsh and dishonorable so unfortunatley he forced our hand to what we have just done this isnt a thing we do but when there has been on internal diplo basically bullying 2 corps it needs to be stopped erik is an ass hat and he feels like he runs the alliance when others do.
I bid you fairwell to all of the fellow pvpers who X up to defend your home fly safe and liquidate your assets becasue u will need to move.
regards
Arrow
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I want to see if that gets refuted or not....
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I want to see if that gets refuted or not....
Fingers crossed I get an answer in my CEO section question this...
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Hmm...
One thing I will not is join that "renters alliance".
Being a pet is one thing, being target practice is a wholly different. But I guess it shows the "close relation" we have with SoT and PL and what that was worth in the end. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if it is true.
If this is true we should move all assets from eh to mn5, should probably get the carrier in the pipe built as well if nothing else to simplify the movement of minerals if we are forced to.
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at this point of time we don´t have to pull anything down, it might change but due to latest talkings to pl we don´t have to. and yes, our relationship with pl and sot are still the old good ones, so no worries what assholes say.
Thats from Derida.
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at this point of time we don´t have to pull anything down, it might change but due to latest talkings to pl we don´t have to. and yes, our relationship with pl and sot are still the old good ones, so no worries what assholes say.
Thats from Derida.
How trustworthy is that info??
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im taling it with a mountain oof salt.
I dont trust it one bit, especially when aftermath just posts a youtube link in same thread and no posts at all from md.
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im taling it with a mountain oof salt.
I dont trust it one bit, especially when aftermath just posts a youtube link in same thread and no posts at all from md.
Lets hope we get some warning before a PL/SoT reset at least so we can remove our shit in an orderly fashion while the wallet the alliance has built up gets distributed to the people in OMD :/
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So.. How long have this been on the alliance description?
[We apologise, but we decided to invite only german-speaking players. Its better for both, those of us who can't speak english well, and those english speaking pilots who might feel excluded if miscellaneous talks would be held in german]
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So.. How long have this been on the alliance description?
[We apologise, but we decided to invite only german-speaking players. Its better for both, those of us who can't speak english well, and those english speaking pilots who might feel excluded if miscellaneous talks would be held in german]
Wheres that found?
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Oops my bad! it was a corp description in alliance not alliance itself. Got lost when browsing trough show infos. Was hauling stuff and had nothing else to do. :)
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i vote for get your shit out then having fun by PVPing blues in EZ for a laugh to say goodbye suckas :) but then im not in EZ and im a hater ;)
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I was a bit irritated today.
"CALL TO ARMS, EVERY PILOT HAS TO JOIN".
i jc down to pnqy, join the fleet, we go g95, attack one gk..
then 5 mins later fleet is disbanded.
*feh*
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CTA's when done usually dont count people in Empire :)
Although I jumped down for one a couple of weeks back and I sort of enjoyed myself - was my only op to date with the alliance and vent wasnt working for me so no wonder I did!
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I was a bit irritated today.
"CALL TO ARMS, EVERY PILOT HAS TO JOIN".
i jc down to pnqy, join the fleet, we go g95, attack one gk..
then 5 mins later fleet is disbanded.
*feh*
They like to call CTA's for no real reason.
Last time I was on one we went for a 4h roam in cloud ring and outer ring and caught 1! osprey after which they decided it was time to call it but changed their minds and decided to hunt a cov-ops cloaked gang of 4-5 with a 40 man battleship fleet.
We managed to kill one...
So 4 hours, 2 kills.