Hands of Justice
What we have played => EVE Online => Topic started by: peo on August 05, 2009, 11:51:04 AM
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Well I'm paranoid and don't trust alliance lead or PL.
I doubt alliance lead was prepared for the renters agreement to change in the way it did, that is basically making renting PL space more of a nuisance than possibility.
This leads me to belive they are rather incapable to actually considering the eventuality that PL might say "you have 1 week to get your shit out" if PL would even give us that much warning.
So in anticipation for that eventuality I think it might be prudent to figure out a way to evac our shit to safety in a quick and orderly manner.
Our logistics base is a bit short for it right now (only one JF and carrier).
So any ideas how this should be done. I'll come back with some of my own later.
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Im thinking about hiring Morc privately for my own stuff and getting him to jump it from MN to at least Agauallores. (if he cant do that, then I'll ship it all to PNQYY and get it right up to empire with him.
We could probably do similar for us all if necessary, and sell on the market at a profit whatever we cant remove.
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So this is it? We leave EZ and fountain?
Or just making a plan for emergency evac??
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So this is it? We leave EZ and fountain?
Or just making a plan for emergency evac??
Plans. Im paranoid enough to have been mulling them over for a while :D
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Most of the stuff i was going to have in fountain hasnt left Jita. :)
I only got a couple of ships at pnq and some stuff in MN5. With the carrier i can jump ships directly from MN5 to Agaullores. The JF needs a point somewhere in Fountain or it can reach Soza in Arida if Fountain is a no go.
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So this is it? We leave EZ and fountain?
Or just making a plan for emergency evac??
Plans.
I am paranoid enough to think that PL is thinking about something more, the new renters deal is horrible really and even if we aren't included (can't say deridia's response calmed me much) I doubt that will remain for long and with the alliance leadership so completely silent about everything it becomes kind of hard to know if they are on top of anything.
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Only thing that would do my head in about any possible withdrawal from Fountain (as personally I wouldnt want to be a renter now.) is having to remove all the work Hrod has put in setting up a tower infrastructure.
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Well we still dont have a straight answer about the POSs outside Satyr and PNQ, now do we? :-X
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Not related to an evac, but i'd like the contents of the corp hangar at Beer shack moved to MN if possible. (I'll be able to help with this come thursday/friday, as like im working on my birthday or the hangover day!)
My paranoia knows no bounds lately.
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Not related to an evac, but i'd like the contents of the corp hangar at Beer shack moved to MN if possible. (I'll be able to help with this come thursday/friday, as like im working on my birthday or the hangover day!)
My paranoia knows no bounds lately.
I'll start to move stuff tomorrow.
Only keep the needed pvp ships in your own hangar.
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All the billions of modules we have?
Taking them all, or liquidating and moving mines/selling mins?
Or liquidating some and keeping some to move (my choice of these options to be honest)?
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How many billions do we have?
i.e. does it fit in the carrier, together with the other stuff or not?
ofc, no need to hang on to the useless crap, but no need to break our heads over stuff either (but then, i'm an evadah)
also, choice between market or breaking down to mins, i'd say mins
heck, i dunno
just mind the station container with my stuff in 'Stuff' section, keep it intact a bit if possible, will decide what of that to hamster and what not soon(TM)
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How many billions do we have?
i.e. does it fit in the carrier, together with the other stuff or not?
ofc, no need to hang on to the useless crap, but no need to break our heads over stuff either (but then, i'm an evadah)
also, choice between market or breaking down to mins, i'd say mins
heck, i dunno
just mind the station container with my stuff in 'Stuff' section, keep it intact a bit if possible, will decide what of that to hamster and what not soon(TM)
I'll leave it alone - purely cos its all in a station container :D
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All the billions of modules we have?
Taking them all, or liquidating and moving mines/selling mins?
Or liquidating some and keeping some to move (my choice of these options to be honest)?
TBH id say unless its best named or T2 melt or sell
T1 ships can easily be built back in empire so sell em, if you have ships with rigs sell at a price that allows for repurchase in empire.
Just my thoughts ;) to make the move easier on the jump capable.
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Cmaxx started the rest of the needed for the carrier we had already built most stuff for. So thats a bit less stuff to worry about :)
Was looking at the minerals though, we have enough to build one more carrier in fountain after the one we have. So was thinking it could be a better idea to build that carrier there in order to take advantage of the minerals we already have and not stress the JF logistics more than we have to. It is a way to compress the minerals into being "self moving" so to speak and since a carrier can jump from mn5 to low sec in one jump it is safe"ish".
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Thats another few weeks of staying in the alliance etc etc etc and paying fee's? (Which I'd rather not do).
Unless we ninja jump them out? By building regardless after we leave?
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Thats another few weeks of staying in the alliance etc etc etc and paying fee's? (Which I'd rather not do).
Unless we ninja jump them out? By building regardless after we leave?
Building after we leave and ninja jumping I mean.
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Mine and Red's Chimeras are now in Ogaria waiting for a good time to do last jump to Leran. They both got a bunch of ships from corp hangar in them and ships tab of corp hangar at mn5 should be empty now.
I did the jump into Pash today before DT with the JF so the 2 contracts i got in progress will get delivered tonight when i get home from work. Next trip i should be able to empty the blueprint, modules and ammo tab from mn5 and will add in any pos modules i get room for.
This leaves minerals tab and the pos modules currently floating in space. How much of the minerals do we want to keep? And when should i expect to do the final jump with the towers, moon harvesters and silos we want to keep? A estimate of how much cargo these will take would be nice too so i know if one trip is enough.
As for the carrier that is cooking now. I will leave a jumpclone at mn5 and a cynoalt somewhere i can jump to ouside fountain so i can get it out when its done.
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Anna will have a rather large haul as well, 34.4k m3.
Will fix that contract this evening.
Apart from that take the high ends and the rest of the stuff and top it off with the low ends. Sell or ditch the rest, not worth doing several hauls to move trit.
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Told them :)
erik thule is willing to buy the Z3 pos and defense + jb etc off us :D
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We didnt have a jb did we?
We had a cynogen at the large one and a cynojammer at the medium.
And how did they take it when you said we were leaving? :)
Oh did you ask if they are interested in a pile of trit for a nice price? :D
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Erik was ok with it, a litle shocked etc
I'll post logs when im done :)
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Shocked... Well what do they expect, we have been the only ones trying to get to know where the heck the alliance was going.
But they have been way to busy making "super elite pvp figher squadrons" or whatever they call them.
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:D
ANyways, I reckon I can get them buy all our offensive and defensive tower modules :D
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PS - keep us leaving close to your chests as we are not wanting nasty rumors to spread - even if I spread them :D
And Im being polite :)
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Anyone that can come online and light a cyno at mn5 for me within the next hour?
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So when do we get the logs ;)
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Channel ID: -1889797
Channel Name: Private Chat (Erik Thule)
Listener: Mangala Solaris
Session started: 2009.08.24 19:24:27
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?[ 2009.08.24 19:24:32 ] Mangala Solaris > Hey :)
?[ 2009.08.24 19:24:37 ] Erik Thule > good evning Magala
?[ 2009.08.24 19:25:07 ] Erik Thule > so how may i help you?
?[ 2009.08.24 19:25:08 ] Mangala Solaris > I may as well get stright to it - MAADI has decided to leave Fountain and therefore the alliance. Hopefully on good terms.
?[ 2009.08.24 19:25:29 ] Mangala Solaris > We have our reasons, mainly our playerbase is shrinking - summer changed peoples play habits
?[ 2009.08.24 19:25:35 ] Erik Thule > well ia, a bit surprise
?[ 2009.08.24 19:25:49 ] Erik Thule > i see
?[ 2009.08.24 19:25:55 ] Mangala Solaris > We have talked and talked about it for days
?[ 2009.08.24 19:25:55 ] Erik Thule > well this is very sad
?[ 2009.08.24 19:26:13 ] Mangala Solaris > yeah - we have enjoyed meeting and playing with the alliance guys - no matter how limited we did
?[ 2009.08.24 19:26:23 ] Mangala Solaris > for most of our chaps, you gave us their first 0.0 life
?[ 2009.08.24 19:26:33 ] Mangala Solaris > and for that they - and I by way of them - are greatful
?[ 2009.08.24 19:27:14 ] Erik Thule > well ok. i understand your decision and of course iam hoping as well you guys will leave us as friends
?[ 2009.08.24 19:27:31 ] Mangala Solaris > thats our intent too - we dont want to burn our bridges as others have done recently.
?[ 2009.08.24 19:27:46 ] Erik Thule > do you guys already came to a conclusion when you want to leave us and fountain?
?[ 2009.08.24 19:28:26 ] Mangala Solaris > We have planned to ensure we are gone by Monday 31st August. We have the logisitics in place to do so - and what we canot move we are marketing.
?[ 2009.08.24 19:28:44 ] Mangala Solaris > Luckily, we never fully moved all corp assets here, we have lots of stuff scattered all over :)
?[ 2009.08.24 19:28:59 ] Mangala Solaris > we moved a fair whack though. just looking at our corp hangars scares us
?[ 2009.08.24 19:30:16 ] Mangala Solaris > I'd like to offer the alliance the large tower we hhad set up in Z3, we'll break it down and pass the bits over
?[ 2009.08.24 19:30:26 ] Mangala Solaris > The tower had some defense mods
?[ 2009.08.24 19:30:38 ] Mangala Solaris > caldari though :S
?[ 2009.08.24 19:30:47 ] Erik Thule > bah! :)
?[ 2009.08.24 19:30:52 ] Erik Thule > but ok
?[ 2009.08.24 19:31:16 ] Mangala Solaris > as we are sure we had the only large in Z3... and we wouldnt want you to lose a single large thereif we co uld help it.
?[ 2009.08.24 19:31:17 ] Erik Thule > pls send me a list of the setup and make me a good price. maybe i will buy it then
?[ 2009.08.24 19:31:43 ] Erik Thule > you are the only ones having a pos there right?
?[ 2009.08.24 19:31:47 ] Erik Thule > of EH it is
?[ 2009.08.24 19:32:00 ] Mangala Solaris > i think so yes - been a while since we had any mails to that effect
?[ 2009.08.24 19:35:46 ] Mangala Solaris > Cynosural Generator Array (Online)Explosion Dampening Array Stasis Webification Battery, Photon Scattering Array; Cyno Jammer;Large Pulse Laser Battery x2, med pulse x 2, warp disrupts x 4, 4 med arty, 4 small arty (we had all sorts of bits
?[ 2009.08.24 19:35:53 ] Mangala Solaris > in our hangars it seems too.
?[ 2009.08.24 19:36:14 ] Mangala Solaris > still lots of it to take down - but thats generally what we had as well as hnagars etc and asembly arrays
?[ 2009.08.24 19:36:51 ] Erik Thule > pls wait a lil while before you take down this pos. maybe i need to find a corp to takeover sov there. so we can keep this system
?[ 2009.08.24 19:37:10 ] Erik Thule > 1 sec. another convo popped up. pls have some patience
?[ 2009.08.24 19:37:12 ] Mangala Solaris > we are taking this down at the very last minute - for exactly the reason you say
?[ 2009.08.24 19:37:14 ] Mangala Solaris > ofc
?[ 2009.08.24 19:37:28 ] Mangala Solaris > im checking corp hangars anyways for stuff and such
?[ 2009.08.24 20:04:50 ] Mangala Solaris > FYI our smaller scondary POS in Z3 is at a Chromium moon...
?[ 2009.08.24 20:05:06 ] Erik Thule > aye
?[ 2009.08.24 20:05:13 ] Mangala Solaris > I'd suggest when we leave to try and keep sov, using that moon.
?[ 2009.08.24 20:05:16 ] Erik Thule > i will talk with AM later this evening
?[ 2009.08.24 20:05:26 ] Mangala Solaris > would be a nice earner for whoever akes over I imagine.
?[ 2009.08.24 20:05:48 ] Erik Thule > we will decide then what will happen with this system
?[ 2009.08.24 20:05:55 ] Mangala Solaris > righy oh :)
?[ 2009.08.24 20:07:18 ] Erik Thule > well its always the best to say it as it is right away
?[ 2009.08.24 20:07:49 ] Erik Thule > i know how hard it can be out here in 0.0. you need a good corp to make a living here
?[ 2009.08.24 20:08:03 ] Erik Thule > iam sure all will go well
?[ 2009.08.24 20:08:07 ] Erik Thule > no stress
?[ 2009.08.24 20:08:22 ] Mangala Solaris > yeah - we did give it a good go, but eventually life got the better and as said we did enjoy our time here - even "meeting" GK :)
?[ 2009.08.24 20:08:37 ] Erik Thule > yeah
?[ 2009.08.24 20:09:09 ] Erik Thule > well whereever you go in this universe there always will be a "GK"-Corp waiting for you already. even in hi sec
?[ 2009.08.24 20:09:30 ] Mangala Solaris > yeah idd there.
?[ 2009.08.24 20:09:40 ] Erik Thule > this universe is full of a..ho..s
?[ 2009.08.24 20:10:01 ] Mangala Solaris > true that.
?[ 2009.08.24 20:10:55 ] Mangala Solaris > 1 thing - can you mail me a list of English language corps that may have space for a US tZ guy as one of ours may wish to remain in fountain, he was here before we came, and I get the feeling he wants to stay on.
?[ 2009.08.24 20:11:19 ] Mangala Solaris > I need to speak to him first, but if I can give him contacts then he at leat as future options
?[ 2009.08.24 20:11:24 ] Erik Thule > sure 1 sec
?[ 2009.08.24 20:12:08 ] Erik Thule > ok i see 2 possibilities
?[ 2009.08.24 20:12:28 ] Erik Thule > The Darkness Within
?[ 2009.08.24 20:12:58 ] Erik Thule > or Omega Directive
?[ 2009.08.24 20:13:42 ] Mangala Solaris > Great, i'll pass those on as soon as he is online. I'd like to do right by him in this.
?[ 2009.08.24 20:17:33 ] Erik Thule > well TDW should be the best adress for him though
?[ 2009.08.24 20:17:46 ] Erik Thule > pure english speaking corp
?[ 2009.08.24 20:18:10 ] Mangala Solaris > I'll deffo pass that on to him. He does like his pvp when he has the time.
?[ 2009.08.24 20:19:27 ] Erik Thule > aye
?[ 2009.08.24 20:20:44 ] Erik Thule > pls tell the guy not to tell everybody that you guys will leave us till its done. i want to sort this silently. just to prevent any drama
?[ 2009.08.24 20:21:36 ] Mangala Solaris > think he was waiting for me to tell the leadership before he even wanted to look for a new corp etc
?[ 2009.08.24 20:21:48 ] Mangala Solaris > that way you and us can control rumor and gossip
?[ 2009.08.24 20:22:45 ] Mangala Solaris > not that there is any with us, we are nice enough folks who did what we could down here and didnt go nuts on allies and spam puerile jokes in chat etc
?[ 2009.08.24 20:24:18 ] Erik Thule > aye thats true
?[ 2009.08.24 21:02:11 ] Mangala Solaris > anyways Erik, im going to take my leave of this convo - need to log and get some sleep as I have a busy day tomorrow with work :(
?[ 2009.08.24 21:02:32 ] Mangala Solaris > I'll be on again tomorrow if you need me for anything
?[ 2009.08.24 21:03:20 ] Erik Thule > ok no problem
?[ 2009.08.24 21:03:22 ] Erik Thule > have fun
?[ 2009.08.24 21:03:25 ] Erik Thule > and see you tomorrow
?[ 2009.08.24 21:03:30 ] Mangala Solaris > o/
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I was so polite I needed to lay down after from the shock :D
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Haha
Would have been interesting to know what they would think if they knew the "real" reason :)
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im shocked you never once said "because your a dick" more restraint than me definitely ;)
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ppl that lie so smoothly scare me
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ppl that lie so smoothly scare me
Its an ability I roll out when needed - I tend to use it with clients when they want me to be the guy to reduce their work force, people dont get as pissed at me when I spin the truth a touch.
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ppl that lie so smoothly scare me
you learn it or die at work in most jobs ive done :)
i never do it at home or to friends but that boss you want to make look like an ass is fair game hehe
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Haha
Would have been interesting to know what they would think if they knew the "real" reason :)
i wouldn't have wanted to confront erik thule about that, as he is a really nice guy.
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He seems like a nice guy... but he would have to be pretty damn awesome to cower for certain others.
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Thanks for looking out for me....
I will contact erik or someone in the corps he mentioned....
I am looking to stay in fountain, i think mostly everyone knows or some weird psychotic reason I like the area....
If it doesn't work out for me, I hope you guys still can keep a door open for me, as all of this moving around crap does suck and we are all parting ways on friendly terms....I hope at least we can be all in the eve newbs channel still, and hell, I have 2 chars....may even split them up in different parts of space if i decide to stop neglecting poor krunked :)
Robert
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Thanks for looking out for me....
I will contact erik or someone in the corps he mentioned....
I am looking to stay in fountain, i think mostly everyone knows or some weird psychotic reason I like the area....
If it doesn't work out for me, I hope you guys still can keep a door open for me, as all of this moving around crap does suck and we are all parting ways on friendly terms....I hope at least we can be all in the eve newbs channel still, and hell, I have 2 chars....may even split them up in different parts of space if i decide to stop neglecting poor krunked :)
Robert
Zig you'll always have a home with us if you need one :)
And of course, still kick it in Eve Newbs too :D
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Fingers crossed Erik is online today :S
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I'll be taking Z3 offline now.
SOT grabbed the chrom moon it seems, Erik doesnt seem too fussed about Z3 now...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_cB5UNGqVs
and now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6ya7ZRlrEo
we've left :)