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Title: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 06:40:53 AM
The BP we made the carrier from was a FUCKING COPY!

This is what I see when I check the info of the Blueprint used to make the thing:

http://handsofjustice.co.uk/forum/gallery/1_21_06_09_7_36_34.jpg

This is what I see in the contract from when it was bought:

http://handsofjustice.co.uk/forum/gallery/1_21_06_09_7_37_50.jpg

Some difference :S

This is what got contracted to Red for a run down to 0.0:

http://handsofjustice.co.uk/forum/gallery/1_21_06_09_7_40_38.jpg
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: peo on June 21, 2009, 07:09:24 AM
And where the heck did the original go???
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 07:14:13 AM
Quote from: peo on June 21, 2009, 07:09:24 AM
And where the heck did the original go???

No clue.

im going thru member contracts right, im pmd red to ask (if he scammed us) and I cant think opf anything else :S
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: peo on June 21, 2009, 08:42:37 AM
Everyone should hand over their unlimited API (if that makes checking easier?)

As for red, feels a bit weird if he did it, he has almost the same amount of crap as the bpo is worth in fountain which we could just sell in that case.
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 08:50:57 AM
Wouldnt show trades would the unlimited key.

Limited would show chars on accounts and balance only.

I can look up contracts in game (and have done for all corp members plus those chars I have removed off late).
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 08:52:21 AM
Quote from: peo on June 21, 2009, 08:42:37 AM
Everyone should hand over their unlimited API (if that makes checking easier?)

As for red, feels a bit weird if he did it, he has almost the same amount of crap as the bpo is worth in fountain which we could just sell in that case.

I dont think he did, as you say he has plenty of stuff down there - hell he supplied the orca bpo. Its just thats the last time I saw that BPO, so thats why I asked him in pm's (wonder when he'll see it!).
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: peo on June 21, 2009, 09:03:06 AM
Hmm lots of his alts have been booted :/ includning the one that iirc was flying the rorq last.
Could be that the bpo is in one of their hangars?
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: peo on June 21, 2009, 09:11:23 AM
Quote from: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 08:50:57 AM
Wouldnt show trades would the unlimited key.

Limited would show chars on accounts and balance only.

I can look up contracts in game (and have done for all corp members plus those chars I have removed off late).

That out of eve thing can show results from contracts I think and quite far back... No idea if it could be used.

Was thinking along the lines that red had a bpc already when you bought the bpo? so the BPO ended up in some other place. Since we were planning to build capitals before as well.
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 09:14:14 AM
It goes back as far as the api data does - and thats late may right now.

Doesnt have a contract option per se, but does show funds made from contracts both personal and corp. 
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: peo on June 21, 2009, 09:16:19 AM
Oh well :( not much to do then.
What does a new bpc cost?
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 09:18:14 AM
bpc's - 45-55mill for a single run.

BPO's - over a billion researched. 945mill unresearched. (Im tempted to buy two, 1 for 0.0 1 for research and development and copies at KASEI...)
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: peo on June 21, 2009, 09:22:12 AM
Quote from: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 09:18:14 AM
bpc's - 45-55mill for a single run.

BPO's - over a billion researched. 945mill unresearched. (Im tempted to buy two, 1 for 0.0 1 for research and development and copies at KASEI...)

Probably need to make that investment :/ unless we can get hold of where the bpo has gone.
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Warcold on June 21, 2009, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: cmaxx on May 29, 2009, 06:49:14 PM
Just doing a quick check with Brian (who doesn't have Cmaxx' skill at building capitals, I'll rectify that soon), this is the first pass:

Chimera:
ComponentBPCGotNeed
Capital Armor Plates450
Capital Capacitor Battery690
Capital Computer System1055
Capital Construction Parts6100
Capital Corporate Hangar Bay10010
Capital Drone Bay362412
Capital Jump Drive1055
Capital Power Generator404
Capital Propulsion Engine450
Capital Sensor Cluster10100
This... You said the BPO had different ME than the copy used for building. Do these numbers represent the BPO, BPC, or general info from market (i.e. ME 0?) ? If it represents BPO or BPC, we have a better idea in what timeframe the BPO went missing.


And about buying new BPO's, better buy 1 till we are for sure we are not going to get the missing one back, or we might end up with 3...
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: peo on June 21, 2009, 09:29:51 AM
Quote from: Warcold on June 21, 2009, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: cmaxx on May 29, 2009, 06:49:14 PM
Just doing a quick check with Brian (who doesn't have Cmaxx' skill at building capitals, I'll rectify that soon), this is the first pass:

Chimera:
ComponentBPCGotNeed
Capital Armor Plates450
Capital Capacitor Battery690
Capital Computer System1055
Capital Construction Parts6100
Capital Corporate Hangar Bay10010
Capital Drone Bay362412
Capital Jump Drive1055
Capital Power Generator404
Capital Propulsion Engine450
Capital Sensor Cluster10100
This... You said the BPO had different ME than the copy used for building. Do these numbers represent the BPO, BPC, or general info from market (i.e. ME 0?) ? If it represents BPO or BPC, we have a better idea in what timeframe the BPO went missing.


And about buying new BPO's, better buy 1 till we are for sure we are not going to get the missing one back, or we might end up with 3...

The bpo had 2 and the bpc had 3, the needed there are for a me3 bp.
I'll post the needed for a me2 and me0 in the cap forum.
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 09:50:08 AM
Apologies for dcing mid chat hrod - power died, then pc wanted to startup repair, then wireless wouldnt work right :S
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Warcold on June 21, 2009, 09:54:22 AM
Quote
The bpo had 2 and the bpc had 3, the needed there are for a me3 bp.
Ok, so the 'switch' happened prior to may 29th it seems?
Ok, seems there is no diff, gah!
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: Warcold on June 21, 2009, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: cmaxx on May 29, 2009, 06:49:14 PM
Just doing a quick check with Brian (who doesn't have Cmaxx' skill at building capitals, I'll rectify that soon), this is the first pass:

Chimera:
ComponentBPCGotNeed
Capital Armor Plates450
Capital Capacitor Battery690
Capital Computer System1055
Capital Construction Parts6100
Capital Corporate Hangar Bay10010
Capital Drone Bay362412
Capital Jump Drive1055
Capital Power Generator404
Capital Propulsion Engine450
Capital Sensor Cluster10100
This... You said the BPO had different ME than the copy used for building. Do these numbers represent the BPO, BPC, or general info from market (i.e. ME 0?) ? If it represents BPO or BPC, we have a better idea in what timeframe the BPO went missing.


And about buying new BPO's, better buy 1 till we are for sure we are not going to get the missing one back, or we might end up with 3...

Thats the PERFECT figures, which are the same for both bpc and bpo.
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 03:57:00 PM
So assuming Ive sourced another BPO, and it eventually gets down to 0.0 safely.

The assumed BPO would stay in my hangar at a station until such time as its needed.  Ideally i'd take it out, contract it to a builder with REMOTE build skills - Cmaxx you can do these iirc - and they install the job.

If it doesnt work like that for poses, I take it out, take to array, place in array and builder makes job there. I THEN AM DELIVERY GUY for the job when its done.  And I take my BPO back until its required again.

Assuming I source two, the other sits with kasei for copy and/or research as I see fit. With the corp having copies from time to time.

This is all assuming I do btw.
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 03:57:49 PM
Given I aint sure if Suply Chain Managament works with arrays and im sure it does, the above would be the best way unless the Chimera BPO got locked down.
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Caradir on June 21, 2009, 04:19:45 PM
being that Mn is 2 jumps from z30 supply management 1 is all thats needed to setup the job from MN using the z30 array.

BP in MN ores in Z30 ;)
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 07:02:57 PM
So Ive bought a Chimera BPO - researched to ME 2 surprisngly enough.

Im moving it to my personal hangar in Pash and will try to get it moved to to 0.0 this week as soon as I can.

Then it gets locked down.
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 07:28:59 PM
So we found it.


Its in Reds hangar at Kubinen.

Im certain I checked there when i was looking for something else weeks ago.

My new one is going to Kasei :)
Title: Re: now titled i r stupid
Post by: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 08:20:37 PM
PM spam of Red is a go: http://handsofjustice.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=59
Title: Re: now titled i r stupid
Post by: peo on June 22, 2009, 04:56:13 AM
Quote from: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 08:20:37 PM
PM spam of Red is a go: http://handsofjustice.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=59

Isn't there some setting for the corp that allows the corp leadership to take stuff from members hangars? (communism etc)
Title: Re: FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Caradir on June 22, 2009, 12:20:31 PM
Quote from: peo on June 22, 2009, 04:56:13 AM
Quote from: Mangala on June 21, 2009, 08:20:37 PM
PM spam of Red is a go: http://handsofjustice.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=59

Isn't there some setting for the corp that allows the corp leadership to take stuff from members hangars? (communism etc)

unfortunately not that would amount to a step too far. Imagine if that guy who defected from BoB to Goons was also able to do that, anyone offline would have lost their stash