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Title: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 04, 2012, 07:14:55 PM
So I told someone not to send me an invite to EVE and they sent me an invite to EVE and now I'm trialling EVE.

I've hit my first road-block.

I'm working through the mining tutorials and the third one asks you to create a couple of afterburners. I had a blueprint and I believe I have the necessary tritanium, but when I try to schedule a manufacturing run of them, I get told I don't have "Industry Level 1".

I can't figure this one out. If I open up the Industry skill, I have Mining 2. Is Industry Level 1 something else?
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 04, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
Yes, Industry itself is a skill.

Whats char name I'll look you up next time I on.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 04, 2012, 07:22:42 PM
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Skills:Industry (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Skills:Industry)


(PS, 60 day trial or ? - then again you may have missed the op for a 60 day trial, 21 day buddy is the other).
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 04, 2012, 07:32:06 PM
Oh and do all the tutorials, dont ever stop learning a skill and also once youve done the tutorials, I can throw you some isk and get you into rvb to see how pew pew works if you want?
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 04, 2012, 08:30:51 PM
Industry is a skill. Ta dude.

It's a 21 day trial. I'm working my way through the mining tutorials at the moment. Exploration next, I think. Starting to get a small feel for navigation around a system too, which is a good feeling to be getting. And I've already had that instant of anxiety as I wonder whether or not I've queued enough skill training sessions for the next 24 hours.  :D

I can see some of the lineage of this game. The influences of a couple of 90s space shooters is pretty clear. Much better job done here.

My toon name is Taith Kalladian, Galente Dude Taith Kallathis, Caldari Dude.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 05, 2012, 01:04:29 AM
You need a program called EVEMON:

http://evemon.battleclinic.com/ (http://evemon.battleclinic.com/)

When you can get an API key feed it to that and it becomes super useful :)
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 05, 2012, 01:08:43 AM
And while its an old thread, this can be handy:

http://handsofjustice.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=389.0 (http://handsofjustice.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=389.0)

Random stuff in it but you never know.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 05, 2012, 01:10:32 AM
Caldari in pvp are fun btw

Blaster Fit Harpy;s (Tech 2 frigate), ECM boats (jam the bad guys), shield logistics, sniper bs.  Super tanked battlecruisers with variable damage at max range (for their size), all sorts really. (Lots of people say lol no they suck, but I am caldari - who can fly everything subcap but still).
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 05, 2012, 01:10:57 AM
Also you can train other races stuff on your current race so dont feel pigeonholed.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Kurtt on March 05, 2012, 11:03:18 AM
Oh, Taith.

Now you've done it. He'll be spamming this thread for months to come!

:D
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 05, 2012, 11:25:52 AM
I do sense a certain amount of enthusiasm for this game from Mr J. 8)

The start of the game is funny. After being told by the intro I have essentially elected to become an immortal celestial demigod, the training agent goes on to say, "Now that your original body has been euthanised without complications..."

That one made my jaw drop.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 06, 2012, 11:14:16 AM
Am I right in thinking EVE does not require a tremendously grunty machine?

My old laptop is a DELL XPS 1730. I bought it about three years ago. I'm thinking to do a clean install of Windows 7 on it. It has a bigger screen than my regular laptop and what with all the windows in it, EVE looks like it could appreciate a bigger screen. Better sound too.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 06, 2012, 11:15:54 AM
It does if you run everything at high/max

Turn it all down and it'll be fine.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Caradir on March 06, 2012, 12:04:24 PM
Eve has sound????

Yeah bigger screen is good as it makes things look less cluttered, but in honesty once you get used to it you dont notice the cluttered feel.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 12, 2012, 04:57:24 PM
Bestest image:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ItTlNpBRXOA/TcjZWeareOI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cBLzMQJ0lKs/s1600/evefun1.png)
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Caradir on March 12, 2012, 06:15:25 PM
so 90 M sps make a bitter vet?

your not there yet Jon then are you? :P
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Goatboy on March 12, 2012, 06:17:48 PM
I think he was born and raised there.  :D
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 12, 2012, 06:31:35 PM
so 90 M sps make a bitter vet?

your not there yet Jon then are you? :P

77ish

I would have been there had the first couple of years of my training not consisted of "oooo shiny" + a few months no training break early on :S

Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 12, 2012, 11:49:43 PM
"Mining ops?" he said, after a brief read of the Eve recruitment forum. He had time to kill while on a brief mining jaunt in Akianavas.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Caradir on March 12, 2012, 11:57:41 PM
"Mining ops?" he said, after a brief read of the Eve recruitment forum. He had time to kill while on a brief mining jaunt in Akianavas.

youve not played eve until you take part in a 23 hour mining op ;) or even better an ICE mining op ahhhh the things i would never do again.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 13, 2012, 07:11:20 AM
Sounds familiar.

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Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 13, 2012, 09:09:55 AM
So a mining op is what it sounds like? A whole corporation worth of people in hulks warp out and pillage an asteroid field until it's gone?

What do they do with all that ore?
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 13, 2012, 09:40:50 AM
So a mining op is what it sounds like? A whole corporation worth of people in hulks warp out and pillage an asteroid field until it's gone?

What do they do with all that ore?

Basically yes.  Can be anything from 5 guys in mining vessels to many many more, and you move from belt to belt stripping a system is doable with enough people. 

As to what is done with the ore, refine it into minerals, build ships, modules, sell it (depending on market conditions), but corps that do ops usually use it to make stuff rather than sell - as selling items is more profitable in the long term.

CEO of RVB buys minerals by the frieghter load as he builds a fuck ton of ships for rvbs members on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 13, 2012, 11:29:42 AM
Maybe I need to become part of that supply chain. ;D
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Caradir on March 13, 2012, 11:47:30 AM
Maybe I need to become part of that supply chain. ;D

seriously though i probably made my first few hundred million mining, its slow going until you get a hulk, but then you need an alt for haulage ;)
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 13, 2012, 01:20:30 PM
I agree with you about the slow going. I sell a single haul of ore for what seems like a very small sum.

Good to know it can pay off though. I'm still getting a feel for the game and I haven't started looking into goals and how to achieve them. I'll look into what to do with all these pretty rocks I'm collecting soon.

I'm still tooting around in my little frigates while I do the starter tutorials, but someone gave me a destroyer-class ship. A Cormorant, I think? I have a vague plan to outfit it for mining. Sound practical?
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Caradir on March 13, 2012, 02:07:57 PM
I agree with you about the slow going. I sell a single haul of ore for what seems like a very small sum.

Good to know it can pay off though. I'm still getting a feel for the game and I haven't started looking into goals and how to achieve them. I'll look into what to do with all these pretty rocks I'm collecting soon.

I'm still tooting around in my little frigates while I do the starter tutorials, but someone gave me a destroyer-class ship. A Cormorant, I think? I have a vague plan to outfit it for mining. Sound practical?

not the fastest ship for mining but with extended holds can hold a decent amount (i usually use destroyers as my salvaging ships for that reason)
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 13, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
I figured it would do as an interim ship while I built up the skills and funds necessary for a mining barge.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Warcold on March 13, 2012, 03:29:55 PM
able to fly a cruiser yet?
might be nice in-between solution to fly the caldari mining cruiser: http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Osprey (http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Osprey)
unless you want to dedicate your char to mining, I would not train to a mining barge if you can avoid it - there are other ways to make money...
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Caradir on March 13, 2012, 03:47:14 PM
mining does get extremely boring quickly

mission running is lucrative, just not at first.

gouging the market is also good. I used to put in purchase orders for things (i only dealt with ships costing 20M plus) id put in buy orders at 10% of market price in hopes that people got confused with number of 0's (not sure if its as easy to do that now) and resell at 80 -90% current market, sometimes id even take 2 0's of and get it at 1% on very expensive items. Made my way to 2B that way. That was more a waiting game yet more lucrative when it paid off, i got some fantastic ships doing that, faction battleships etc.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 13, 2012, 04:55:05 PM
able to fly a cruiser yet?

I'm going to guess I'm nowhere near that. :)

mining does get extremely boring quickly

That doesn't surprise me, but I'm not positioned to do much else yet.

mission running is lucrative, just not at first.

Actually that's good to know. I assume you mean the missions you get from station agents. So flying from station to station and doing work for agents is a practical way to play the game? If so, I can see myself doing plenty of that.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 13, 2012, 05:04:14 PM
Low SP characters can do a lot more than they presume.

If you can fit tackle you can pin other players down in war and such activities and training for tackle is easy :D

Id try and train some combat skills if I was you so you can mission to break the monotony of minering - missioning isnt much better but its better than shooting rocks for hours on end.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 13, 2012, 05:26:52 PM
BUT I HATE ROCKS!!!
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: peo on March 13, 2012, 05:46:20 PM
You will hate them more after mining :P
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Warcold on March 13, 2012, 06:05:05 PM
able to fly a cruiser yet?

I'm going to guess I'm nowhere near that. :)


Frig IV and Spaceship Command III - not that hard to get and worth the time really, even if you don't fly a cruiser yet it will benefit you in flying frigs.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on March 15, 2012, 06:44:59 PM
Have there been patches for the last three days or is something going wrong with my install of EVE?
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on March 16, 2012, 12:14:19 PM
Its always tis way after mini patches,  lots of fixes roll out for days after.

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Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on April 17, 2012, 05:29:44 PM
Found this on the EVEUni site Taith:

Link (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6781003/EvE/Quick%20Reference%20Sheet%20by%20Korgan%20Nailo.pdf)

May come in handy for you.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on April 17, 2012, 06:10:48 PM
Yeah that's definitely an EVE thing, what with all the high-density tables.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on December 14, 2012, 03:09:58 AM
What happened to my Osprey? Suddenly I'm down to one turret. This used to be my prime mining ship with three mining lasers.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Mangala on December 14, 2012, 10:59:10 AM
What happened to my Osprey? Suddenly I'm down to one turret. This used to be my prime mining ship with three mining lasers.

Retribution happened,  ospreys are now a t1 logi cruiser - properly this time instead of half assed like before.

Mining ships got buffed in Inferno a few months back so are different there.

There is a new mining Frigate out though called the Venture.
Title: Re: Taith's Grand Space Adventure
Post by: Taith on December 14, 2012, 09:04:24 PM
Yeeeeesss, found out about it last night. I can't quite afford to buy and fit a Retriever, so I think I'm going to have to figure out how to make a mining frigate productive. Painful.