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Offline bebur

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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2009, 09:34:57 AM »
Well i will  be online again. won't miss the fun. hehe.
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Offline Jarkko

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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #61 on: February 17, 2009, 10:16:19 AM »
Regarding E-war. Seeing that there were so few (read:  Zero ;) ) Merlins in corp hangar, I decided yesterday to use a Condor instead. The main difference to a Merlin is that there are fewer slots, ie 1 low, 2 med and 3 high; I used Overdrive injection, AB, warp scrambler and two energy vampires. The good thing compared to a Merlin is of course the fact that the Condor is a *fast* ship (fastest T1 Caldari ship as far as I know), so it was easy to get into action with it.

I wonder if it would be better to fit some other E-War module instead of the warp scrambler? Or should I stick with the scrambler?
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Offline Rubino

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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2009, 10:23:50 AM »
It really depends on who's on and what we're up against.  You need 2-3 tacklers per 1.5 hostile(s) (aye - that fraction is supposed to be there).
There was some good tackling yesterday - just remember to keep a nice tight orbit around the target (by tight I mean you should be able to wave to the pilot) and you'll receive less dmg from them.

There's not much chance of them fitting a SmartBomb due to concord kicking their ass - likewise they won't use the missile based bombs.

In terms of other types of EW - tracking disruptors are good - then either TP's or Damps.  Alas as we're in empire burst ECM isn't an option (concord doesn't like them also).
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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #63 on: February 17, 2009, 10:30:25 AM »
aye as rubino says in high sec they WILL NOT fit smarts as it usually results in collateral which CONCORD frowns upon with BOOM so tacklers orbit at 500 and laugh as there guns cant track you ;)

Ill be in my new shiny Stealth Bomber later (packs a bigger punch than the kessie i was in last night)
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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #64 on: February 17, 2009, 10:50:08 AM »
Gonna try to buy a few executioners to keep in stock as well..

just with a single gun, a scramnler and an afterburner..  and aim for quick movement.
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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #65 on: February 17, 2009, 11:38:56 AM »
Aye, as beo said, we are in great debt to the scouts we had yesterday. Without them we would have been blind to enemies movement. Great job there!
I've stuck enough feathers in beo's ass yesterday in game for his FC-ing, so doubt any more will fit.  ;)


I have a new theory about why they decced us btw. When lying in bed, it dawned to me that they were bothering mac when he was mining in Inari, which seems to be their home system. So, I thought, maybe they just want Inari for themselves and discourage everyone to go there. I remembered vaguely some POSs they killed were in Inari too. I just looked that up and: yup, they were in Inari; most, if not all of em.
So I dont expect them to wardec us for money, they just want to scare us out of Inari (THEORY ALERT!).
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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #66 on: February 17, 2009, 12:10:19 PM »
If so, we'll just move to Inari to roam there with our fleets :)
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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2009, 12:27:47 PM »
Quote from: Sinedia on February 17, 2009, 08:31:17 AM

My main is itching to get some kills  8)

i can shoot you a few times if you want.. or did you want to kill someone instead of be killed..? :D
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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2009, 12:40:15 PM »
Quote from: Bethor on February 17, 2009, 12:27:47 PM
i can shoot you a few times if you want.. or did you want to kill someone instead of be killed..? :D

Why am I not surprised to get such a remark from you  :P ;D
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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #69 on: February 17, 2009, 01:15:05 PM »
Quote from: Rubino on February 17, 2009, 10:23:50 AM
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- just remember to keep a nice tight orbit around the target (by tight I mean you should be able to wave to the pilot) and you'll receive less dmg from them.
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Interesting. My thought after yesterday was that it would be better to put 2 TD, or a TD and a Warp disruptor, on a crucifier and stay far away where the orbital speed is higher and no stasis web can reach you. I was killed yesterday in a punisher, equipped with a stasis and lasers, because I was webbed.
I was also a bit slow to react when our fleet started heading for bed ;)
Anyway, I would appreciate if someone could give me some pro and cons for very close and very far away.
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Offline Jarkko

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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #70 on: February 17, 2009, 01:51:18 PM »
Frigate far away looking in to the wrong end of a 250mm gun  = an absolutely dead frigate

Frigate close orbiting fast = a frigate that might survive
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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #71 on: February 17, 2009, 01:56:37 PM »
If their statis web can't hit you - then yours won't be able to hit them :)

You web to slow them down allowing the tracking on guns to be more effective - which I think then translates into a factors: sig of your ship, signature resolution of thier guns and the distance between you both.  Guns also have a blind spot - usually inside at around their (optimal - falloff).

The other aspect to keep in mind is who is shooting at you - which in gang vs gang isn't always clear.  It may well be that the ship you are tackling isn't the one attacking one - but somebody else in their gang (or one of your own if the overview isn't setup right).
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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2009, 02:53:31 PM »
So, what are the plans for tonight? People just come to game and see what is going on, or do we have something a bit more organised planned?

Also, who all will be around tonight?
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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2009, 03:10:02 PM »
ill be there in my spanking new Manticore, ive been shadowing them around anttiri for a lot of today they are camping 14 with at least 2 stealthed ships at all times, it seems more are appearing in local but we shall see what its like when we come on and in our usual planned way probably wing it the best we can ;)
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Re: War-Decced
« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2009, 03:16:09 PM »
Wouldn't undock without a plan to be honest :)
Thats a bit to suicidal for me even :D
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