Hands of Justice
What we have played => EVE Online => Topic started by: Warcold on May 16, 2009, 11:09:54 AM
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I've suggested buying minerals on market and making capital ships from them a few times, but it was always shot down for not being profitable.
Me being a stubborn SoaB, I did some calculations today. Not for cap stuff, but for T1 ships.
I think it has potential. Ofc, the profits wont be as high as mining our own stuff, but it is better than what we make atm: NOTHING.
I had only 10 mins before DT, but could do some calculations.
Mineral aquirement:
Isogen: 60 isk p/u
Megacyte: 3600
Mexa: 25
Nocxium: 100
Pyerite: 3.70
Trit: 4.20
Zydrine 1650
Hurricane:
Minerals: ~30M
Lowest sellprice on market: 40M
Profit: 33%
Rifter:
Minerals: ~175k
Lowest sellprice on market: 250k
Profit: 40%
Drake:
Minerals: 29M
Lowest sellprice on market: 32M
Profit: 10%
Griffin:
Minerals: 132k
Lowest sellprice on market: 1.5M
Profit: 1035%
Hornet I drone
Minerals: 2710
Lowest sellprice on market: 20k
Profit: 635%
Valkyrie I drone
Minerals: 16200
Lowest sellprice on market: 75k
Profit: 360%
Phased Plasma M ammo
Minerals: 34.7 p/u
Lowest sellprice on market: 100
Profit: 190%
EMP M ammo
Minerals: 31.1 p/u
Lowest sellprice on market: 54
Profit: 73%
Core scanner probe
Minerals: 1712
Lowest sellprice on market: 4000
Profit: 133%
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All in all I think such profits are quite ok and deffo worth looking into.
Problems:
- We dont have all BPOs in 0.0 yet (e.g. drake, hurricane).
- We might need a trader to minimize trading losses. Anyone has one available that can do regular visits (JC) to fountain?
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Can always divert anna there. Not perfect skills but decent and can have shitloads of orders out.
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Ok, did some more calculations, also on some drones.
Seems the higher the turnover (more common, eg. drake) the lower the profit.
But IMHO it would still be worth it to set up some mineral buy orders (in the highest ranges, that's how i calculated stuff) and get some building going.
We can see how it goes, what sells and what doesnt, how hard the competition is on the selling plane (i know from experience, there is quite a bit of competition on the mineral buying side, but just overbidding others works, esp if you buy stuff in smaller batches (and not by cents, but just 5% over em or something)).
What I did when I set up my smallish mineral buying orders was buying only station wide (no hauling -> no trouble and no risk) and, like i said, overbidding all the orders in non-player owned stations. Player owned stations are far away and in general not accessible to renters.
With mining ops being at a low, Rub absent, and lot of ppl back in hi-sec, I think this is a good way to make some money. And ofc not as much as when we would mine/refine ourselves, but... get real.........
Which gets me thinking... we may look into ore-orders too. If we got refiners that is.
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Well anyway, I would like to give this a go and will use corp funds for this.
If anyone has big no-no feelings let me know here and I might reconsider.
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Go ahead imo.
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Problems:
- We dont have all BPOs in 0.0 yet (e.g. drake, hurricane).
and you aint getting them BPCs or nowt ;)
a trader really helps cut costs, and a profit is a profit no matter how you get it, me im gonna start mining and making stuff in high sec again for corp to start funds improving, now all i need is a high sec base to do research ;)
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we got KASEI, dont we?
concerning this i mean
now all i need is a high sec base to do research
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Well anyway, I would like to give this a go and will use corp funds for this.
If anyone has big no-no feelings let me know here and I might reconsider.
Worth a try thats for sure :)
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we got KASEI, dont we?
concerning this i mean
now all i need is a high sec base to do research
What he said :)
Kasei's slots (I said S L O T S) are available to be used in such enterprises as thats pretty much why it was created in the first place. It's actually doing more than copying cap parts these days - copies of ship stuff, me and pe research on ships and items etc :)
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Just an fyi to any buillder planning to build for corp profit - there is 25million trit, 11million pyerite, 3million mex, plus assorted smaller numbers of other minerals hanging about in Anttiri v-6 ;)
Please use them. Mang can get us reduced sales fees in all caldari stations so she can sell on the corps behalf when it comes to hisec stuff (combination skills and standings).
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we got KASEI, dont we?
concerning this i mean
now all i need is a high sec base to do research
Kaseis researchers are shit compared to Consts skills and has always been a moan of mine having no access to S L O T S ;)
now if i have to work on my own standings and set up my own POS i shall
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hoo there cowboy...
cant mang arrange access for you?
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hoo there cowboy...
cant mang arrange access for you?
Has to be in the corp or in an alliance with the corp, there isnt a way to give people personal tower access, which sucks :S
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hmm, other way?
disband KASEI?
just a though... :-X
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hmm, other way?
disband KASEI?
just a though... :-X
Can't have a pos then. Need good enough standings.
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hmm, other way?
disband KASEI?
just a though... :-X
Wont happen, KASEI's mine: The tower is personally funded by me, fueled by me, hell I mine the ice to fuel the thing from time to time on various chars; whatever happens with regards to hisec research for MAADI etc this wont change :)
But I understand the sentiment.
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err, wasnt a sentiment, just a though(t)...
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disbanding Kasei isnt an option all im saying is that i can do MORE than kasei can at the mo and would like to use my skills ;)
*dont post before morning cuppa*
and i will manage it some way or another, if it was just a simple as being able to use kaseis tower it would have been sorted long time ago ;)
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50 hornet Is sold for 19.5k each, so that's about 600% profit, which is nice. Total is only 1M ofc, so meh :)
put up another 50 for sale though
rifters not sold yet
will look into other stuff that we have BPCs for
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Modified first post with some ammo and core scanner probes (of which we have 80 1000-run BPCs).
Hybrid ammo is not profitable at first glance, but when you look at the 'local' market (<5 jumps from MN5) it gets profitable again.
Did a calculation for antimatter L which we can produce for about 107 isk p/u. Lowest sellprice in fountain: 98ish, lowest sellprice on local market: 150
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50 hornet Is sold for 19.5k each, so that's about 600% profit, which is nice. Total is only 1M ofc, so meh :)
put up another 50 for sale though
rifters not sold yet
will look into other stuff that we have BPCs for
t2 drones sell awfully well, always have (as a resulty of cheap people not using t2 to pvp, and invention (uses alot of them).
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Rifters were sold for 250k each, 5 ships in about 10 days (not sure when i put em up for sale).
Think Rifters and Hornets can be produced at larger scale and set up for sale.
Didnt come to setting up rigs for sale yet. Think I will talk to Brian about this, as his tradeskills are much better.
[edit]seems i set up the sale for the rifters may 25th, so about 1 rifter a day, not bad[/edit]
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As per corpmail:
contrary to what i said in previous corpmail, it seems we do have rig BPOs in hisec after all. so salvage you have in/around anttiri can be contracted to corp
thx