Hands of Justice
The Lounge => The Dog & Duck => Topic started by: Caradir on February 18, 2009, 06:03:03 PM
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Dont know if any of you guys have been watching this one, maybe our Swedish members could provide more info ;)
http://bambuser.com/channel/Spectrial/broadcast/68615 linky to the daily english translations ;)
will be interesting to see how this goes, but already 50% of the charges were dropped as "the prosecution couldnt be sure the pirate bay trackers were the ones being used for download"
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Im hoping they get off, they only facilitate ways to get shit for free as far as im concerned, they dont cause people to get it for free, they dont do the actual acts that piracy of audio/video needs etc and give the results to us all do they ;)
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If they set it up correctly, and are just hosting the trackers, they should get off.
The only thing that constitutes "software piracy" is making the software itself available to others. They shouldn't be doing that, it's their users that are "guilty" ;)
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so, apparently, they only have screen shots for evidence
When asked if he had any network equipment logging exactly what was going on ‘behind the scenes’ of any of his sample downloads, he replied that he didn’t. When asked if he verified in any way during the download process that he had any contact with The Pirate Bay’s tracker, again the answer was negative.
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yeah from what i gather, the prosecution isnt the most tech savvy of people, hence 50% of charges were dropped on day 1, and it seems that they have no actual proof that the pirate bays trackers were used to download the numbers they are trying to sue for damages for.
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If they set it up correctly, and are just hosting the trackers, they should get off.
Isn't that what Napster was, or were they more than just that?
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Napster was software used for p2p connections, it actually let you get the material you wanted from a willing share. PB just lets people find stuff - they cant help people want to find the latest stuff for free :)
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So they got jailed and a 3£ million fine.
They are refusing to pay but contemplating jail much more :S
All for "aiding copyright infringment"
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they still have years of going to appeal before it gets anywhere close to them going to jail apparently.
What gets me is if you search on google you can find the exact same trackers, are google going to be fined and jailed?
they should be scared.
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Unexpected to me.
So a forum where links get shared to pirated software is illegal, and their owners can be punished by jailtime as well?
How about file-dump sites like rapidshare?
I surely hope they'll think this through during the appeal(s)....
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Swedish Pirate Party membership surges after Pirate Bay verdict (http://www.boingboing.net/2009/04/17/swedish-pirate-party.html)
Although I have no idea how seriously to take them.
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Anyone say "Conflict of Interest" on the part of the Trial Judge?
http://www.thelocal.se/19028/20090423/
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Cory Doctorow wrote an article (http://www.internetevolution.com/document.asp?doc_id=175415&) the other day on how this sort of mistake (to put it politely) takes a potentially complicated issue and makes it much simpler.
In this case it goes from being about music pirates vs artists trying to make a living, to big corporation/corrupt judge vs the little guy. The former, people sort of see the case against the pirates. The latter, makes for a better headline.
Longish article, but it's a good discussion of the subject.
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Thread necromancy, and offtopic too! But I found this article on the legal escapades against TPB in the netherlands and it sure is a scoop!
Actually I'm not sure what to believe of this, since it's too stupid to be true - but according to the guys from TPB, Dutch organization BREIN falsified some documents in order to be able to push forward with their trial vs TPB:
http://blog.brokep.com/2009/10/08/fail-in-nl/
If it IS true - well I'm not sure what would happen. I seriously doubt there will be any criminal charges against any of BREIN's employees - not only will it be very hard to determine who actually knew about the documents being fake, I don't think the dutch courts will be too keen on moving against BREIN c.s. In any case BREIN would look ridiculous - and some careers will be sure to get sidetracked....
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the pick on this one site and leave the other thousands unmolested ??? silly really, they cant kill the internet ;)
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the pick on this one site and leave the other thousands unmolested ??? silly really, they cant kill the internet ;)
We are legion.