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What we have played => Star Wars: The Old Republic => Topic started by: Mangala on July 18, 2008, 06:38:27 PM
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http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/17/knights-of-the-online-republic-kotor-mmo-is-go
Yay :D
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I dont hold much hope that it wont be a leveling based game, but I'll be in like flynn when it eventually comes out and giving it a go :)
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setting it during the old republic does give them more "wiggle" room with story etc so could be good, just no damn playable jedi please.
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Last week, Nintendo denied it was working on a DS redesign...72 hours before it announced that it was working on a DS redesign. Electronic Arts has been doing a similar publicity pas de deux about the " next-generation entertainment product" that its BioWare studio announced last October.
Whatever could this be?
Despite rumors pegging the project as being a massively multiplayer online role-playing sequel to its acclaimed RPG Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, BioWare kept its wall of silence clamped firmly down for over a year. Speaking with GameSpot after the EA buyout, studio cofounders Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuck deflected questions about the game in development at their new-ish Austin studio. "We haven't revealed any details about the game," said Muzyka. "It's supersecret right now."
That secrecy evaporated this past July when EA CEO John Riccitiello casually revealed that, yes, a KOTOR MMORPG was in the works. Since then, details on the project--which other EA executives still refuse to speak of--have been nonexistent, with its platforms, price, and exact launch date still unknown.
"LucasArts and BioWare invite you to attend the official unveiling of the game that's been rumored about for years," reads the invite before providing event-locale details. The gathering will be held in San Francisco on the afternoon of October 21, just more than a month after the release of the latest Star Wars game, The Force Unleashed. At a presentation at the Game Developers Conference this past March, producer Hayden Blackman said that the fast-selling game was settled on after a proposed third single-player KOTOR game was ruled out.
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Revealed:
http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6199726.html
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official site - http://www.swtor.com/
I go through star wars booms and busts. I'm on my way up to a force unleashed inspired boom at the moment, so very excited about this :D
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anybody else interested in this mmo ?
im not usually into sci-fi mmo's but this one has got my interest.
a collabaration between bioware/lucasarts/ea so some pedigree behind the game
just hope ea does not put any pressure on to rush it.
from what i gather so far there will be no collect 8 bantha meat type quests but quests will be very story driven.
anyway the game is a while away 1+ years atleast but i will be keeping my eye on this one i have signed up to the games forum and newsletter(hoping for a beta invite when they start it hehe).
beware the forums lots of feral american starwars law freaks on there:)
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Its not EA im worried about - Bioware despite being EA owned now are very independent (as Dragon Age will show). Its LucasArts wanting more license control that will bother me if they decide to do so :S
But yes I await this MMO with baited breath, hoping they dont go the level route and go with a more freeform skills based direction.
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closed beta may not be that far away bioware are advertising for programmers, csr's and technicians.
one thing made me shudder they want people with online gaming experience with micro-transaction expertise i hope thats not the model they will finally go with im in the monthly subs camp.
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I and a few others from The Hornéd Fist (Horde side WoW), are watching this with great interest.
If it turns out to be as good as I expect it to be, this will be my main game. Bye bye WoW etc etc.
I'm on the official forums as Kurtt. If you see me, /wave :)
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I and a few others from The Hornéd Fist (Horde side WoW), are watching this with great interest.
If it turns out to be as good as I expect it to be, this will be my main game. Bye bye WoW etc etc.
I'm on the official forums as Kurtt. If you see me, /wave :)
If you see him post that picture of him in stormtrooper gear (someone somewhere has a copy I am sure!)
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If you see him post that picture of him in stormtrooper gear (someone somewhere has a copy I am sure!)
think the pic was on the old hoj forums
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I've probably got a copy floating around somewhere :D
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Bounty Hunters and jetpacks:
http://www.swtor.com/info/classes/bounty-hunter
Although they look like an ability rather than a go anywhere style thing with the world possibly limited to ground only movement ala "generic mmo name".
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Bounty Hunters and jetpacks:
http://www.swtor.com/info/classes/bounty-hunter
Although they look like an ability rather than a go anywhere style thing with the world possibly limited to ground only movement ala "generic mmo name".
Gief Flamethrowers!
This game is gonna kick ass, and yes, I am firmly on the old bandwagon.
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lets hope it lives up to the hype and manages to avoid the moaners as its set in a period that very little has been written about.
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The Old Republic? Weren't there a whole lot of Dark Horse Old Republic comic in the 90s? Think they fleshed out a bit of the Sith War and even hopped back to the Hyperspace War thousands of years earlier. (The lightsabers had power cables.)
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yeah the Trade Paperbacks such as Jedi vs Sith and Freedon Nadd uprising are set in that era, but no novels and more wiggle room than SWG had Lorewise
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(The lightsabers had power cables.)
Hmm, it would suck going to all the trouble of becoming a Jedi only to be able to fight evil a few metres from a socket.
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(The lightsabers had power cables.)
Hmm, it would suck going to all the trouble of becoming a Jedi only to be able to fight evil a few metres from a socket.
I could always lend you one of my old bergan's and you could lug a few 12volt car batteries around in it to keep it going ;D
(Ghost busters with a sparkler perhaps?) :P
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yeah the Trade Paperbacks such as Jedi vs Sith and Freedon Nadd uprising are set in that era, but no novels and more wiggle room than SWG had Lorewise
The novels have accounted for just about every second between the original three movies, haven't they?
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the novels pretty much cover the entire period from The rise of Darth Bane (1000 years before the battle of Yavin) and 40 years after the battle of Yavin (The New Jedi Order), with important bits and pieces before and after hinted at or as Trade Paperbacks.
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http://kotaku.com/5235909/star-wars-the-old-republics-diverse-worlds
BioWare helps us move past the problems of the past week, with a new developer diary exploring the planets of Star Wars: The Old Republic.
The video explores the creation of some of the planets included in the next massively multiplayer Star Wars title, from the writing to the art design. There's still no planet full of unicorns, but I remain hopeful.
Watch the video, very shiny :)
Those worlds look very well realised, I do hope there is oodles of playable content on them and its not hours of walking between content hubs.
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Yummy looking indeed
Like the look of the old Sith academy on Korriban and the Sith tombs.
Tython looks pretty but didnt see any Rancor ;)
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KOTOR is like cake, in that it maybe a lie to call it a proper MMORPG:
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=6975&highlight=kotor+mmo
Below Im posting an inside view of The Old Republic based on an inside source. And no I didnt have to dumpster dive this time to get this info rofl.
Oh and before the flame wars begin, lets not forget I was dead on correct when I said Bioware was making a Star Wars theme MMO. And this was despite Bioware and LA both stating for a fact that this would not be a star wars MMO.
This is going to be long and so I'll do my best to organize what I know as best I can.
Many MMO's start out as an idea. Developers formulate a basic concept and then workshop ideas. A basic blueprint is written up and a budget is estimated. Then work begins. At this point some of the larger MMO dev houses present their blueprint to a marketing team. The team will do research to determine what kind f projected revenue they can expect and if the game will reach an intended target. Ideas are given back to the development team who may or may not revise their blueprint.
I describe this as whats normally done within a development of an MMO. I mention this because TOR didnt start in this traditional sense.
TOR was born from a business model. This business model was handed over to developers who were then asked to design a game around it. What was this business model you ask, it was a book.
This book was written by Lucas Arts and inspired by KOTOR and its success. I dont know the origins of when and why it was done but this book is the framework for TOR.
The game has been designed to play like a virtual book. Each chapter will have alternate endings based on which dialog you chose in the quests. The goal is to make the game replayable and new each time you start over.
Each chapter has roughly the same content as a KOTOR game. And there are several chapters so the game does have a ton of content.
The game is heavily instanced. If you have ever played Lord of the Rings Online, its similiar to the beginning quest sequence and some of the books. You will literally watch a story unfold in front of you in your own little world. There are several cinematic scenes in the game.
Its definitely NOT open. There are no giant worlds you can freely explore. Its sort of like Guild Wars or a variation of Age of Conan. No player cities and no housing.
There is no space content so if your hoping for a JTL in TOR you better look elsewhere. There is a few quests involving boarding a ship but you arent going to fly around in an X-Wing doing missions.
The story evolves. Think Books in Lord of the Rings. They plan on adding new chapters to the story. Here is the catch, you will likely have to pay for each new chapter. Its not really an expansion, so its more like buying some additional quests.
There are classes in the game but not in the traditional MMO sense. There isnt a tank class or a healing class really. Each class can dps and has some healing abilities.
Each class will start on its own planet and will have a unique series of quests to start the game. Once you leave the planet, the quests will be mostly the same as other classes but the dialog is unique to each class. Of course there are different possibilities based on the dialog you choose. Also cinematic sequences will be different depending on class.
You can solo through the entire game. Not to say there arent group quests, there are but you can skip them.
If you dont like questing, this game isnt for you. There really is no other means to play the game.
There is no non-combat class.
There is a limit to the number of companions you can have. And in a group you cant have two of the same companions out at the same time. Also you can only have one companion out at a time.
Crafting is very basic. You craft your own lightsaber. There is no weapons crafting or armor crafting of any kind. There are some quests that require you to do some basic crafting like fixing a shield generator or fixing a droid. There are some modifications you can add to your gear. But you arent going to make your own gear.
There is currency and you can buy consumables like health pots. There will be a standard auction house.
Its definitely a PvE focused game. PvP will be limited to duels at this point. There are no raids, at least not in the traditional sense where 25 people go into a dungeon like in wow.
combat is classic rpg with a toolbar and specials with cooldowns.
Bioware wont support addons and apparently it will be considered an exploit to use one. No idea why.
The game currently is in full alpha test mode.
To summarize the game, its not really an MMO in the traditional sense. Some people are going to be upset by the design. Others like KOTOR fans will absolutely love this game. Oh and there will definitely be RMT plus a subscription fee.
Not sure what to think, have I been spoiled by Lotro and its story and open world, EVE and its ability to create your own stories or even WoW? Or am I just jaded in my opinion that this may not actually work after all, crushing my hopes of a newer improved SWG without retards at its helm?
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Big question that stems from this is how they will hold single character players after they complete the storyline?
That's their biggest problem, the deal breaker even, sorta like WAR and uneven factions, hopefully unlike the latter they will have a plan.
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sounds like a single player game i hope im wrong the whole point of mmo's is the social interaction.
cant see me paying mmo subs to a single player game.
will have to see how it developes and hopefully get into beta for a better look.
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It's a single player game with a monthly subscription fee?
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its touted as an mmo and everything so far is only rumour as they are not releasing much info.
the info mangala posted was put up on a forum in january originally and they ripped it apart on the official forums so take everything with a pinch of salt.
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http://www.swtor.com/info/classes/trooper
as for the probability of it being a paid for persistent world rpg, rather than an MMO.
Read all the marketing bumpf you can find on it, totally suggests its more like old style NWN persistent worlds, than full on open world MMO as we here understand MMO's to be.
EDIT - I love rumor :) :
TTH:You mentioned earlier that you don't want players to need to go out and recruit a bunch of other players to take down one monster. How do you balance an MMO so that you're still able to be a bad ass in single player but also have that sort of multiplayer experience that so many MMOs provide?
James: One of the things we've been doing is that we're making sure that when we're building content we have different representatives of the different play styles. Whenever we're doing design discussions or implementing a system, we have the different player types involved. There's the solo player type that hates other players and is very anti-social...
BioWare is creating their game with all play styles in mind.
It's funny, because there are a bunch of players like this in WoW where they don't like to hang around with other players but love to show off all the cool stuff that they have.
Then there are the players that like to adventure with their buddies. They have their own group of friends, and they just like to adventure with those players all the time.
Then there are players that like to join guilds and are social butterflies and like to adventure with people from their guild. They like to be part of these big huge groups that go out and play in major events like raids.
We want to take all those players and make sure that each of those player types has fun in our game. I can't go into details about all the systems, but we have made sure that those player types are thought about when we're building the game.
FROM HERE: http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/47137
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Jedi V Sith Cinematic:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/49937.html
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nice very nice. :)
but im waiting to see what the gameplay mechanics are before commiting to this game.
rumour of single player mmo is putting me off at the moment but will wait to see if rumours are true.
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I cant imagine a universe in which I wont be signing up for this
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I have my doubts, hoping they'll prove unfounded of course.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/50075.html
(Press Conference from E3 - the Kotor section of one)
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wish they had finished with a q&a session at the end of that video. ;)
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well lets hope those two guys arent hired for the voice-over work
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damn you all for getting me hyped up again for this game spent the last few days trolling forums and game sites for info bah. ::)
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any Star Wars Forums scares the living bejesus out of me so many fanbois who get prissy when anything SW related goes in a direction THEY dont want it to :) makes me giggle, but also makes me want to kick them up the arse and reintroduce them to the world outside.
now i am a self admited SW geek i love severything SW (except 1-3) and have read every novel/ trade paperback printed
except Legacy of the Force but i has just got last book so will be starting them soon ;), but its not my baby i have no control over the
path that someone elses intellectual property takes, and if i dont like it i WONT buy it , i wont spend my life under a bridge on forums
whining till its my bedtime.
now me personally i want to see all 7 lightsaber forms in the game, oh wait that would be 6 Mace Windu isnt living yet :D
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the official forums went live in october i signed up in febuary.
the people who signed up in october have the attitute of dicounting anything by anybody who signed up after that.
eliteist jerks come to mind.
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I remember the actual EJ guild forum - number crunching wow guild for several world firsts and general stuff like that - was a good place for people into the numbers of wow, but they certainly lived up to their name :)
As for my SW infos, I get it from some private forums and a couple of other gaming related forums I use (including SHC and FOH) rather than the official boards as fanbois really do scare me!
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watching ign e3 coverage at the mo supposed to be sw-tor gameplay footage soon.
lol what a pile of doodoo only a interview and they showed kotor footage as tor footage idiots oh well will check the gamespot footage in a couple of hours.
well the gamespot coverage was worse than ign 2 grandads talking about nothing no gameplay footage even the interviewer was surprised by this.
everyother game had gameplay footage seems things were pulled at the last minute the nerdrage on the official forums was something to behold hehe.
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most game footage shown at E3 is usually game tech demo and not actual game play, and its usually 3 months out of date with actual game in progress.
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most game footage shown at E3 is usually game tech demo and not actual game play, and its usually 3 months out of date with actual game in progress.
it was just that one of the mods on the official forums hinted to people that they would get to see ingame footage on wednesday on the gamespot site.
so not seeing it got most of the kids into a nerdrage even the gamespot guy was shocked that no gameplay footage would be shown .
also the gameplay footage was shown but just to the press they got to play a 20 minute flashpoint which is i think a sw-tor version of lotro story instances.
and the 2 oldfarts from bioware that gave the interview sounded like they were a couple of residents in the local old folks home they got all their info wrong and told us nothing that isnt up on the official site.
/nerdrage off :)
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/me is installing kotor 1 and 2 all over again :)
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is kotor any good i heard it was a little rushed and it shows?
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is kotor any good i heard it was a little rushed and it shows?
1 is great if a little wierd at time, but overall is a good story, 2 is rushed and a touch unfinished.
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play.co.uk have the game release as 27/11/09 hehe very much doubt it somehow.
also hope there is a closed beta and i get in but the way bioware does things makes me think they may do it in-house employees and family.
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kotor 1and 2 are awesome games, not perfect but awesome all the same.
if youve played mass effect think 5x better than that, and that is one good game ;)
my favourite character in the kotor games is the deadpan psychotic assassin bot :D "Meatbag"
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HK-47 ftw. It was awesome, and a little weird, when they worked him into SWG :D
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just ordered kotor the first one to get me in a starwars mood. :)
tried watching ep1 again got 30mins in and had to turn it off one of the worse scripts to a movie i have ever witnessed.
the only lines i remember from episode1-3 is *my young padawan learner* because it is used in every other line.
mee isa sooo sorry.
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if your interested in this game then sign up to the newsletter and forum one of the bioware people let slip that closed beta could be in the near future.
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if your interested in this game then sign up to the newsletter and forum one of the bioware people let slip that closed beta could be in the near future.
Doing it nao!!!!
Thanks for the heads up.
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http://www.mmogamer.com/06/11/2009/a-new-hope-for-mmos
Bloody awesome interview - allays my kotor with a chat box fears a little, but I still want to see more info forthcoming really.
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Seems to me fromt he interview that encounters with quest npcs of great import will be "phased" in that you can speak with npc and such alone without loads of other players getting in the way, based on how far along a stroyline/quest you may be.
So instancing in a random way, but not in the way we all believe.
Just want more info now is all :S
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bioware are very tight lipped about everything it seems but things do leak from them now and again.
no official word on the jedi and sith classes but everybody knows they are in as playable.
no word on closed beta but a slip occured that said it was close(depends on the defenition of close) the community manager let slip it was soon somebody asked how soon is soon the reply was the near future lol.
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sounds like its a role playing game, with single player action, and the only time you would see other people would be in the canteens and auction house, and generally around citys, but all quests are instanced to just you. Sounds dull.
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my take on the quests from the interview is that you phase out of the game world and into a instanced world for class specific quests and that you can group for the other types of quests or thats what i hope.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX3sI0q5iMI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX3sI0q5iMI)
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New PC Gamer says Sith/Jedi are essentially WoW Rogues. They build up "action points" by using abilities and then fire off finishing moves. Some originality would've been nice, but I guess it might work out just fine. No word on whether or not they heal/tank.
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id imagine Jedi can heal buff etc as that really goes with the lore, where as sith would use more damaging abilities, chokes, lightning whilst both can look after themselves with a saber, mind you they could use a skill tree system i suppose but meh i guess its a wait and see.
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Might be worth reading this...
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/preview/star-wars-the-old-republic-hands-on/a-2009070610215182000/g-20081021163120143024
Gamesradar have had a hands-on with the game. Have to say, I am looking forward to this.
As I said over on the THF Forums - I like the idea that this game is going to be story driven, its not going to appeal to MMO players who are just in it for the "Phat Loot"
Gief!
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id imagine Jedi can heal buff etc as that really goes with the lore, where as sith would use more damaging abilities, chokes, lightning whilst both can look after themselves with a saber, mind you they could use a skill tree system i suppose but meh i guess its a wait and see.
Not sure, I think it will be based on the class you go with rather than "faction" If you read the Gamesradar preview, and what has been always the plan its your actions that decides if you go Sith or Jedi, its not a direct choice when starting the game. And thats what I love about this game!
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And finally, I loved the original KOTOR games - how can this fail?!! ;)
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Story is always good, be it player created ala EVE, or the wonder that is Lotro, or the Star Wars universe as Bioware sees it (As long as Lucas isnt let near it, although he has been quoted as saying that he doesnt care what people do in his universe as long as they dont fuck with the bits his precious movies cover... :D).
Thanks for the link, good read :)
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As I said over on the THF Forums - I like the idea that this game is going to be story driven, its not going to appeal to MMO players who are just in it for the "Phat Loot"
I grinned when I read that bit. I wonder if they've also made sure you don't need a bleeding-edge gaming rig, as Blizzard did with WoW? The two points go well together.
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think the devs have said they want it to run on as many rig combo's as possible. :)
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think the devs have said they want it to run on as many rig combo's as possible. :)
Good. I'd like to be able to run on my lappy and my various rigs, just depending on what Im doing at the time.
Ive begun to wonder since reading the article about what they want for pvp (glossed over in the article I know), Im hoping for "logon and you consent to pvp", rather than battlegrounds and arena style bullshit, which is just shitty watered down pvp. And tbh I dont think in the context of an actual universe at war you would have limited zones for pvp, more of a chance of it anywhere. Oh and let me loot their stuff please.
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Hmm. I agree somewhat, as long as there's definite "teams".
Nothing as annoying as an "AoC" system where a random other player from your own team can decide they don't like you and ambush you while fighting a mob.
At least open-world wow-pvp gave you a chance to spot that enemy rogue before he stealthed.....
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Jedi v Sith (and both sides hangers on), with an actual sense of us vs them, rather than what wow gave (we and them are very similar, but we fight anyway, then along came tbc and we are bestest friends now). WAR sort of managed it, but not quite...
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One thing that strikes me though:
And all this takes place in the name of fun. BioWare want their first MMO to be as full of life, character and story as their single-player RPGs. “We have to ignore the top of the hardcore,” says Walton, talking about those players who will simply ignore the story and min-max their way to the top end of the game. “We need to make a game that is accessible to the Star Wars fan, and the BioWare fan. Because really BioWare is a company that is about making a great RPG experience, not about making games for a hardcore MMO audience.”
This is all well and good; and I enjoy a good story-based game just like the next guy. But I'm concerned at the longevity of a game based heavily on these principles. Players can chew through story based content in days for what takes developers years to actually create.
Say what you want, but min-maxing is what retains subscriptions. Even to the most casual players - look at people with large numbers of alts in wow/lotro etc, eventually you learn the best way to do stuff to get to cap faster. Hopefully Bioware isn't completely arrogant with their success in story-based games that they'll completely ignore why people play MMO's for years on end.
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the longevity will be somewhat extended as with each alt the story will be differnet choices and conclusions etc where as the reality with wow is you do the exact same lore on every alt to get to 80 pretty much. I am also hoping they give us a nice big universe to adventure round :)
I cant wait for this one dare i quote them and say its a wow killer :P
laters elv
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That's true - at least having players play through a completely different story on all characters will give them enough time to get an endgame (or a mini-expansion with more story x6(?)) in place....
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Ok, getting really excited for this now.
CoH to CO to SW:TOR ;D
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whats CO?
how are u managing to kid yourself that coh is a good game admit it, the game is clunky, crap and comparable to some of the worse games on my c64.
laters elv
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Champions Online ;)
and its getting better after every patch
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Champions Online ;)
and its getting better after every patch
Beta leak dammit! Thats an order!
Seriously though Elv, check out Champions Online. Thou whilst not be dissapointed my son.
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I wonder if I'll be as much of a sucker for NPC sob stories as I was in the original KOTOR.
Thank goodness you got Dark Side points for mind manipulation, otherwise I'd have had a halo.
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Run while we still can:
BioWare confirmed that they would be, “without a doubt,” receiving help from Mythic Entertainment in regards to SW: TOR.
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check out the video on the official site its on the front page titled voice of the old republic. :)
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Thats great - I knew they were doing lots of voice, but fully voiced, just amazing.
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Damnit! I really do hope that this is the game to finally get me away from WoW. If it doesn't then I am going to give up the whole MMO thing!
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That video had ingame footage - jesus wept its shiny.
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http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=51392
And I thought I got nerdy over video stills - however that thread is great, some brilliant conjecture on possible ui and utilisation of said ui.
/me wonders if this needs a forum section of its own yet...
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http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=51392
And I thought I got nerdy over video stills - however that thread is greta, some brilliant conjecture on possible ui and utilisation of said ui.
/me wonders if this needs a forum section of its own yet...
Yes, yes it does.
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i still want more info on the actual gameplay elements regarding partying etc :)
but i cant wait for this game , they better not let me down.
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this is not the thread you are looking for, go about your business, move along
laters elv :D
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ok guys seems IGN.COM are hosting the gameplay footage its on the front page its in 4 parts 2nd part starts automatically 10 seconds after the first part finishes and so on.
each part is 5 minutes long and features smuggler/bounty hunter and sith warrior along with an extended flashpoint segment.
enjoy i know i did.
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always linkage for the lazy sheesh ;P
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Ok, is it me, or does the combat seem really sloooooooooow?
;)
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linkage for the lazy :)
http://uk.media.pc.ign.com/media/816/816935/vids_1.html (http://uk.media.pc.ign.com/media/816/816935/vids_1.html)
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always linkage for the lazy sheesh ;P
it was twenty past one in the morning and my eyes were like piss holes in the snow:P
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always linkage for the lazy sheesh ;P
it was twenty past one in the morning and my eyes were like piss holes in the snow:P
nice imagery hehe :D
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Hmmmm all sounds interesting. Especially stealing lightsabers off dead Jedi. Hope you can keep a collection. ^_^
Think I'm going to play KOTOR I and II to prepare for SWTOR (and yes, I will get a new pc for that one -_-).
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I'm excited so far, and it's just getting better.
I don't need photo-realism in my games, as long as the world looks good, and feels right for the game, its all good. The graphics looked perfect for the star wars feel, combat animations to me looked fine, no awkwardness or stutters.
Cover system is interesting in a MMO, especially with the little green 3-d Cardboard cutouts it showed as placements for the cover spots(this kinda seems out of place, good for a tutorial or something, but in the actual real playing world seems odd).
I came when the sith warrior Dual-wielded sabers at the end :P
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Cover system is interesting in a MMO, especially with the little green 3-d Cardboard cutouts it showed as placements for the cover spots(this kinda seems out of place, good for a tutorial or something, but in the actual real playing world seems odd).
I agree, I hope they change that, or you have an option to turn it off at least. Good concept though.
I came when the sith warrior Dual-wielded sabers at the end :P
Dirty monkey!!! ;D
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Ok, this now got me excited enough so I searched for and bought both KOTOR I and II....
This could very well be the next MMO I get addicted to..... :-X
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Where did you get them?
I had a go at Diablo II to keep me busy... but ZOMG you actually lose your stuff when you die! So harsh. =p
Didn't manage to find two new copies of KOTOR I and II all that fast yesterday.
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Kotor 2 is available (cheaply) on Bol.com. (15 euro)
Kotor 1 was a bit harder, I finally found it second hand as a part of "star wars the best of pc" on Ebay UK for 20 quid.
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KOTOR II would have been a couple of euro's cheaper with Play.
I'll do some more searching for KOTOR then and give the Ebays in the world a go as well.
KOTORS are single player offline rpgs right?
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Aye.
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Balmorra revealed:
http://www.swtor.com/info/holonet/planets/balmorra
Looks like a possible pvpish place?
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Isn't that the Queen's Scottish residence?
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Isn't that the Queen's Scottish residence?
Near enough - you actually had me check my spelling too :D
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arent those cigars?
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http://www.swtor.com/news/news-article/20100521_003
hoth latest planet to be revealed as playable makes 13 so far.
in really torn as to will i or wont i play this think i may try it for the initial free month atleast.
necro thread ftw.
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any ideas when this is due out yet?
laters elv
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spring 2011