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Offline Mangala

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Re: Drake
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2009, 08:50:03 PM »
Quote from: Dlarah on September 03, 2009, 04:11:05 PM
Looks like he is using a 5% powergrid implant. :)

yeah, my main clone has had one fitted for ages.
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Re: Drake
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2009, 07:56:55 PM »
So a 3 rigged (2xlarge CDFE and 1xmedium CDFE) drake with 2 invulns and a 2 lse II's works well in a wormhole against 5 sleeper cruisers and assorted frigate support (final wave of anomaly I just emptied) :D
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Re: Drake
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2009, 06:04:22 AM »
so 2 midslots open?
that would mean in a group everybody could either fit 2 ewar or 1 ewar & 1 AB on each Drake = nice against gankers
im thinking targetpainters, warpdisruptors and webbers
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Re: Drake
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2009, 06:39:36 AM »
Quote from: Warcold on September 17, 2009, 06:04:22 AM
so 2 midslots open?
that would mean in a group everybody could either fit 2 ewar or 1 ewar & 1 AB on each Drake = nice against gankers
im thinking targetpainters, warpdisruptors and webbers

Had an MWD and a sensor booster fitted - but that was cos im lazy and didnt want to dock to remove them and switch them out for other utility :)
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Re: Drake
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2009, 09:47:29 AM »
Quote from: Mangala on September 17, 2009, 06:39:36 AM
Quote from: Warcold on September 17, 2009, 06:04:22 AM
so 2 midslots open?
that would mean in a group everybody could either fit 2 ewar or 1 ewar & 1 AB on each Drake = nice against gankers
im thinking targetpainters, warpdisruptors and webbers

Had an MWD and a sensor booster fitted - but that was cos im lazy and didnt want to dock to remove them and switch them out for other utility :)

but for PVE id say the MWD and a shield recharge thingamijig for more passive tank goodness would be gid
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Re: Drake
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2010, 08:11:36 AM »
There has at some point been discussions here about "spider remote sensor boosting" on cruisers.

I suppose the benefit for that is best when setting up a gate-camp, no? Ie you have the camp set up, are sensor-boosting the battleships (or whatever) and wait for the pray, or did I miss something?

If so, how about a Drake with remote sensor boosters? I have got the feeling the conventional wisdom atm is that Drakes should be targeted last (as they tend to be very good at taking punishment), what about taking that rumour into account, and make the Drake such a sensor booster? For example_

[support]
Damage Control I
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Remote Sensor Booster I,Scan Resolution
Remote Sensor Booster I,Scan Resolution
Large Shield Extender I
Invulnerability Field I
Invulnerability Field I
10MN MicroWarpdrive I

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Terror Assault Missile
Small Remote Hull Repair System I

(Where the remote hull repair system is of course off-line, and is supposed to be used afterwards on who ever the sucker was that nearly died in the fleet ;) )

The HAM's could just as well be changed for HML's if the intention is to engage from a distance, but might be just as well fit a Caracal then, as Caracals can shoot missiles from a much longer range (the Drake is IMO more of a "in your face, punk" -type ship, but I may be mistaken of course). With Swuuls skills the above has ~43.8k EHP and is cap-stable with the MWD off (and with all whistles and bells on (minus the remote hull repper) can run for almost 4 minutes before running cap dry. The remote sensor boosters give a 67.5% boost to scan-resolution, what ever that means (I am *still* not entirely sure what different percentages mean in different situations), but I presume it would be quite a noticeable scan resolution bonus.
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Re: Drake
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2010, 08:40:00 AM »
A group of ships (say 3 BC's) with 1 with regular sensor booster and the other 2 with RSB's could really do well in a camp situation.  The other 2 boost the one with the standard SB, which is fitting a couple of utility meds - faction point/webs etc to allow for pinning at range.  Overheat helps too.



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Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II

10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Small Remote Armor Repair System

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I


Drones could be combat or reppers. Ship will tank sentries if needed (in case of lowsec gate camps/station camps :D) but will also tank the shit out of most everything else.
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Re: Drake
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2010, 12:26:14 PM »
So the idea would be that the boosted Drake opens fire (as it will have a ridiculously fast targeting speed, if I get this right) and/or scrambles the target, and then the two others join in (as soon as they get a lock on the target)?

Sounds cool. If you want to try this in practice, count me in (although I won't (yet) be able to fit all the T2 stuff in your example) :)
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Re: Drake
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2010, 12:30:26 PM »
The utilityboat will get primaried like a hot blonde though...  ::)
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Re: Drake
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2010, 12:38:22 PM »
Quote from: Warcold on January 14, 2010, 12:30:26 PM
The utilityboat will get primaried like a hot blonde though...  ::)

id never primary the "hot blonde" give me a sexy redhead with a big rack any day.
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Re: Drake
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2010, 12:46:59 PM »
Quote from: Caradir on January 14, 2010, 12:38:22 PM
Quote from: Warcold on January 14, 2010, 12:30:26 PM
The utilityboat will get primaried like a hot blonde though...  ::)

id never primary the "hot blonde" give me a sexy redhead with a big rack any day.
that's why you dont play eve anymore...
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Re: Drake
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2010, 12:49:02 PM »
Quote from: Warcold on January 14, 2010, 12:30:26 PM
The utilityboat will get primaried like a hot blonde though...  ::)

Utility fit them all, give the attackers/trapee's a choice of what should they rape first, either way the drake will take them a while to eat through, allowing (if you have it), other support to jump in from nearby and burn to your gate/belt/site of a fight etc.

mmm Draek gangs....
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Re: Drake
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2010, 12:49:24 PM »
Quote from: Warcold on January 14, 2010, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: Caradir on January 14, 2010, 12:38:22 PM
Quote from: Warcold on January 14, 2010, 12:30:26 PM
The utilityboat will get primaried like a hot blonde though...  ::)

id never primary the "hot blonde" give me a sexy redhead with a big rack any day.
that's why you dont play eve anymore...

Bhaalgorn with a rack of neuts :)
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Re: Drake
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2010, 12:50:28 PM »
Quote from: Warcold on January 14, 2010, 12:30:26 PM
The utilityboat will get primaried like a hot blonde though...  ::)
But isn't the idea of Mang that they all are basically similar, just that one opens up fire before the rest because it will have way faster time to lock the target? Or did I misunderstand?
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Re: Drake
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2010, 12:51:11 PM »
Quote from: Jarkko on January 14, 2010, 12:50:28 PM
Quote from: Warcold on January 14, 2010, 12:30:26 PM
The utilityboat will get primaried like a hot blonde though...  ::)
But isn't the idea of Mang that they all are basically similar, just that one opens up fire before the rest? Or did I misunderstand?

Yes pretty much, with the option of rsb's fit on all boats, each boat can effectivly do this - spiderboost each other.
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