Hands of Justice
What we have played => EVE Online => Topic started by: Mangala on February 16, 2011, 06:27:25 PM
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I meant to post this a while ago, but I R DUMB.
Basically, during the time that Beyond Control was just an extra chat channel or two for us (some might say it still is), and we as a corp were/are inactive for whatever game we like this week, or real life issues, or BC just sucking out our souls a year ago etc, Hrod started looking around for new homes for us as a corp - trying people from pretty much all the big pewpew blocks in EVE.
However obviously none of these ever really panned out - not that we ever got many answers Hrod eh?. So it got a couple of us to thinking that the best idea may be for us, should this BC in 0.0 thing not work out, would be to move corps and find another corp willing to take us on as a group of friends with varying different skills and what not and just keep maadi as a shell for alts and random stuff its too much hassle to divide etc. Obviously if our interests had us go further ways from that juncture, then we'd at least have a forum and a chat channel for getting stuff together that way.
Yes, MAADI could recruit, but for us that would be difficult given that we arent always active, we dont really fit one playstyle or another which makes finding suitable folks inside of eve a herculean task.
This thread isnt a statement of our intent to do this, but more of a "this is best if xx doesnt happen" and its also here to let you know, and see what sort of interest we would have if we did this and what sort of direction we should look in and so on.
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Best response I got was "get back in a month or so" from the testies. (seriously doubt they will want more people even with the entire of fountain at their disposal)
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I like that as a plan. With my 4yr old running the house, my playtime is getting eroded. Being in a large corp/alliance would be the way to go for maximizing the fun during my limited play time. Will see how BC turns out.
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So, it may have to come to pass - upcoming changes MAY make 0.0 a nuisance for those of you who live there or attempt too - and so I revisit this topic.
While I posted that I think we could move on as a group and find people willing to take us, I am not so sure that may work for us all.
After 6 years I am beginning to doubt CCP and their ability to focus on spaceships, so am going to be selling all my remaining alts that are on active accounts and once done keep the Mangala account running off isk in the hope that they make spaceships awesome again. And given that when I am on I spend alot of time docked chatting in various places, I wouldnt be of use to other entities, so remaining in RVB is the best solution for me.
As to those of you remaining in MAADI who do want to move on together, then I can help find somewhere that you may like and stuff? Or if people want to go their own ways we can divi up assets and wallet and what not. (Hell join the NC if you want, yes space changes will affect them a bit but they use moons to pay for sov...)
I just dont see maadi working as anything more than a retirement home for people who havent logged in for ages now.
I do suggest if people just want to pewpew and get a combat record - RVB ;) Then moving on somewhere people care is easier. Obviously theres a load of different options...
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After 6 years I am beginning to doubt CCP and their ability to focus on spaceships, so am going to be selling all my remaining alts that are on active accounts and once done keep the Mangala account running off isk in the hope that they make spaceships awesome again.
WHOOSH!
Where did that come from all of a sudden?
But yeah, I'm no stranger to the sentiment that you have about MAADI.
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After 6 years I am beginning to doubt CCP and their ability to focus on spaceships, so am going to be selling all my remaining alts that are on active accounts and once done keep the Mangala account running off isk in the hope that they make spaceships awesome again.
WHOOSH!
Where did that come from all of a sudden?
But yeah, I'm no stranger to the sentiment that you have about MAADI.
Ive been getting increasingly bitter over the past few months, and fanfest tipped me over. Lack of spaceships focus really didnt enamour me, even with "promised" fixes from team bff it just isnt enough, and since I only really need 1 account to shoot people - or have the patience to run these days...
And then finding myself unable to sleep last night I decided to do a few things and this was one of them.
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To be honest given MAADI's basis in this community I am surprised it has lasted as long as it has - testament to the fact that EVE does have "something" I suppose, but when its pretty much down to 4 or 5 guys who all have different views on EVE and what they want, its not going to go anywhere.
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One thing that struck me while at the barbers.
If MAADI does fold/go even less active, BC is stuck in a position of not being able to afford its bills unless the other parties take up the difference. Which then sees their 0.0 life terminated if they dont, and tbh I think they can make a go of it as renters out there, they seem happy enough out there.
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Even if they can take it isk-wise, afaik they depend on Hrods logistics quite heavily.
Plus the mental blow they'd get.
Don't think we should have this influence our decision too much though...
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Even if they can take it isk-wise, afaik they depend on Hrods logistics quite heavily.
Plus the mental blow they'd get.
Don't think we should have this influence our decision too much though...
Of course - was just making sure we all understood that :)
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One thing I do advise - lets not rush into this - theres a couple of weeks of evaluation time as to how bad it is - if it is - and for Sin to ask AAA if they have plans to reduce rent if necessary - all before the next rent period starts and so on.
Wouldnt want to cause folks to jump ship all because Im bitter ;)
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I'm going to refuel the bimener towers today and stay for that time at least. But hauling shit to c-f etc well... thats a different story.
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I'm going to refuel the bimener towers today and stay for that time at least. But hauling shit to c-f etc well... thats a different story.
:)
Dont worry about the logistics - they have carriers, Ombe have a couple of rorq pilots and stuff. (Im sure they have a rorq too now).
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I'm going to refuel the bimener towers today and stay for that time at least. But hauling shit to c-f etc well... thats a different story.
:)
Dont worry about the logistics - they have carriers, Ombe have a couple of rorq pilots and stuff. (Im sure they have a rorq too now).
Dont' give a shit about the other corps any longer, much less omber after that comment he made (in general I really don't respond well to thinly veiled insults at my devotion to something given the time i tried to actually get the alliance somewhere earlier)
I was thinking about our towers there.
IIRC they have fuel for 2 weeks more or something like that. (I'll check later) so its no real effort to keep them alive, mostly just moving stuff for the reactions. In either way it means we need a decision around that time.
At the moment what I'm leaning towards is to get maadi shit out of tenerifis and run the reactions in bim out of fuel (one month). Move hrod/linnea into rvb and get some pvp then try to see if someone will take me, if not well then i'll find something else to do rather than spin in station. There is no place in eve for a small corp/alliance.
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what's this omber stuff you mentioned a few times now?
was it in game or?
have to admit i didnt follow BC forum too much lately
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If being in Null sec is only about you making ISK doing Ratting/Anomalies,,,,don't let the Knob hit you on the way out.
We are down there as a ALLIANCE.
That means we put secondary our greed, so to further the Alliance/Corp needs. If you cant, see the last part of my first statement.
But also watch out Missioning is about to undergo changes.
Yes the changes will some effect on those that are after Anomalies, get over it,,,so it takes you longer to generate isk by ratting/anomalies. If that is the only way you can see to generate isk in null sec, see the last part of my first statement.
Why do you think AAA rented these systems out...because they are at best marginal, at worst wastelands.
from blindbleu
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I wouldnt take that too much to heart.
Guy clearly doesnt know what he is in 0.0 for, because, for example : http://maadim.handsofjustice.co.uk/beyondkills/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1&view=corp_kills :D :D :D :D
And it's not like OMBER is a leader in coming up with ideas on how to get things done.
I could understand it's the last drop though...
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what's this omber stuff you mentioned a few times now?
was it in game or?
have to admit i didnt follow BC forum too much lately
Blindbleu said this in response to hrod voicing his concerns about next week:
If being in Null sec is only about you making ISK doing Ratting/Anomalies,,,,don't let the Knob hit you on the way out.
We are down there as a ALLIANCE.
That means we put secondary our greed, so to further the Alliance/Corp needs. If you cant, see the last part of my first statement.
But also watch out Missioning is about to undergo changes.
Yes the changes will some effect on those that are after Anomalies, get over it,,,so it takes you longer to generate isk by ratting/anomalies. If that is the only way you can see to generate isk in null sec, see the last part of my first statement.
Why do you think AAA rented these systems out...because they are at best marginal, at worst wastelands.
Its like he didnt even read hrods posting name or who he was responding too - you know the guy what moved the alliances shit down there and so on...
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If being in Null sec is only about you making ISK doing Ratting/Anomalies,,,,don't let the Knob hit you on the way out.
We are down there as a ALLIANCE.
LOL comedy. Don't worry about the knob hitting us slappy. We will be out so fast it will make your head spin.
Move hrod/linnea into rvb and get some pvp then try to see if someone will take me, if not well then i'll find something else to do rather than spin in station.
That sounds about right. Let me know if you start pulling the towers out, and I will pull mine too. I have a month and a half worth of fuel so I'm good either way we decide to go.
This was a good experience for me, and at least I will break even on the deal. But I won't miss Tenerifis too much. PVE is not something I am interested in any more. Its not even worth doing to make money. Moon mining has spoiled me.
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Seriously what the fuck are you guys even doing in the same bed as those nobs?
people like that are shit on my shoe which i wipe off as a smear :D do the same to them.
tempting for me to resub then come down and shoot them even though id be blue :D
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Seriously what the fuck are you guys even doing in the same bed as those nobs?
people like that are shit on my shoe which i wipe off as a smear :D do the same to them.
tempting for me to resub then come down and shoot them even though id be blue :D
Youd have to rejoin MAADi first - we removed a lot of chars to keep our rent bill low as poss :D
Even though we have isk :)
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Yesterday evening the idea jumped in my head that I will tear myself loose from MAADI and join either B-REP so we can do some pvp together at least (esp if more ppl choose to do the same), or REDFED so I can shoot Mang ;)
Thought I'd take about a month to prepare for it (make more isk, set jumpclones in trading hubs, etc), so easy does it.
Feels bad though, leaving MAADI as its currently oldest member :-[
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Is it mean that I am supporting the pro 0.0 crowd in BC despite the fact that Im not a real member of the alliance, and MAADI itself will be jumping ship at some point ;)
Probably is, but I cant help giving them advice and support until the very end :)
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*shrugs*
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*shrugs*
:)
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So, it seems everyone is pulling out of Tenerifis.
When will we break the news to BC?
What are ppl's plans after this?
I am preparing for the move to B-REP. Making safespots and bookmarks, moving stuff, etc. Will change corps within a forthnight I guess.
*sniff* strange - leaving my EvE home after 2 years+
will ofc stick around here and in HoJ gaming channel in EvE :)
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My plan at the moment is:
1. Remove our stuff from 0,0
2.React the stuff in bim until the fuel runs out (about 3 weeks) after that tear down the towers and get it to maadi office.
3. With great sadness leave maadi for b-rep
4. profit??? no idea will see what happens next.
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Saf shot blues, oh noes :)
Even better, ones was a guy who reported him in intel!
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1 blue.
BC isnt blue to Rol.Citizens. I checked :)
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Oh, good! What a relief! :D
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I have started packing up my tower and moveing it over to the Gula Tower to be jumped out. Hrod, when will you be pulling your tower out? As of right now it looks like you have about 10 days of heavy water left. Are you going to pull out before that? Let me know. I would like to keep my moon miner running right up to the last day if possible.
I have about 12k in Oxygen Isotopes in with the things I just Moved over to the "Stuff" array. Please use that for jumping. Let me know if you need more and I will get some and move it to Hasateem for you. I currently have just under 150k m3 in stuff sitting in the Random tab of your Assembly array. Only thing left is the tower, Silo and moon miner plus any plat I get.
-Rex
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Rex could you as soon as you ave the chance pack up the stuff and get it to the tower?? Fuel is running out this weekend (i'll have to get more heavy water for it as its shouting for that but it should be easy enough) want to get it down tomorrow at latest.
edit: sorry for the short notice... been away for easter and not been online that much this week so didn't think i was in this rush.
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Tower is down. everything is in the "Stuff" array. If you have room you can take my badger too. If not dont wory about it. All the ships that are left are expendable.
Thanks
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I started topping off the fuel in the tower but I don't have helium Isotopes. so I just topped everything off to equal the helium Isotopes. So as of now we have 4days 6hrs of fuel.
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Tower is down.