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Offline Caradir

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2008, 03:22:32 PM »
worked on preview sorted hopefully ;)
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2008, 04:53:42 PM »
worked on preview sorted hopefully ;)

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I hosted it over on the forum gallery and linked it in your post now.
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2008, 06:16:30 PM »
As for thoughts, use a griffin for distance EW. Use a merlin for a tackler :)

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2008, 04:30:06 PM »
As for thoughts, use a griffin for distance EW. Use a merlin for a tackler :)

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2008, 08:42:57 PM »
Corp account with Agony is now up and running. Please register at their forums and keep an eye on class dates. You are looking for PVP-Basic currently. (They do two variants of this, one for the world and one for Australian time zone players).

Also ingame you can join their chat channel and mailing list as detailed here on their site.

Please ENSURE when you enrol in a class, following their instructions you tell them that the Ma'adim Logisitics (MAADI) corp account is paying for your class.
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2008, 10:48:53 PM »
http://www.agony-unleashed.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?104994

Links to an article on the Agony forums, written by someone from EVE Uni who has taken a basic class recently. Really good read there, and makes me wish they'd hurry up and setup the next one!
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2009, 11:45:39 AM »
Did you see where Berta is btw? Frickin other side of space. Hard for me to get a jumpclone near there fast, so I'll just hope I wont get podkilled.
Hope you can freighter some frigates and modules for me to there Mang?
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2009, 11:52:23 AM »
1. You don't need a jumpclone there, just jump to a clone here and fly there.
2. 16-20 jumps is only 20 minutes with warp-to-zero, you should have played when it was warp to 15km as the closest
3. if you go to 0.0, then you will get podded, set your clone to the station you go to, have a jumpclone without implants.

Enjoy, this sounds like a blast ...

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2009, 12:20:09 PM »
I'll be at work during that weekend sadly. In theory I could slip away from work a bit earlier on Saturday to make it in time, but I really can't stay up until the early hours of Sunday as I have to be at work 6 AM server time on Sunday...

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2009, 01:32:39 PM »
1. You don't need a jumpclone there, just jump to a clone here and fly there.
2. 16-20 jumps is only 20 minutes with warp-to-zero, you should have played when it was warp to 15km as the closest
3. if you go to 0.0, then you will get podded, set your clone to the station you go to, have a jumpclone without implants.

Enjoy, this sounds like a blast ...
2. aye, but i will need me a collection of ships and stuff there, that will be a drag if i have to make several haultrips to get my stuff there
1&3. ahh, never mind, i made some reasoning error there, thought i had to have a jumpclone close to where i died, figure I need to learn Infomorph psychology IRL too   :-\
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2009, 09:07:01 PM »
My most recent kills - or at least those I was involved in:

http://www.handsofjustice.co.uk/maadikb/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39011&view=recent

(They wont show on the front page as mang is in kasei currently)

MAADI losses so far:

http://www.handsofjustice.co.uk/maadikb/?a=losses
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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2009, 12:40:32 AM »
Excellent fun.

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2009, 07:11:29 AM »
Eagerly waiting for an AAR :)

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Re: Who would like to learn a little basic pvp?
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2009, 11:42:27 AM »
Ok, writeup of the basics from yesterday, let others do the more juicy details.

Class started with balancing the fleet (about 50 boats) using an ingame webpage where everyone could enter their loadouts so that the fleet coordinator (FC) could see what was missing and what we had too much of. After some ppl changing loadouts to fit FC's taste, explaining what did what, going over communication rules and assigning ppl to groups and squads in fleet, we undocked.

Oh no! Class started 15 minutes before Beo cared to arrive, that was how it started!   :D

Several basic (fleet) flight techniques were then explained to us. Among others:
- When warping as a fleet, everyone aligning to the target beforehand will make you warping and arriving in one group, thus having more chance to surprise and kill a target. Even with fast ships like frigates, the aligning takes time and this will cause delays in a lot of ppls warp.
- Spiraling towards a targets was explained and practiced. Essentially it means that when you have to travel a distance (say 50 km) to a battleship in a frigate in a straight line, he is able to hit you easily. When you travel in a 45o angle towards him, he will have a harder time hitting you, cause his guns will have to track you.
We were told this also applies to missiles. In this case it is not the tracking, but the explosion velocity that has to keep up with you. Getting hit head on is worse than getting hit from behind.
- Next up was orbiting speed. They went into detail about orbiting, rad/sec and stuff. I already studied this myself when thinking about speedtank tactics, so not many surprises for me there.

What was also a major theme of the course was communications. Agony uses several keywords for different situations. Like certain codes for everyone to shut up and listen, emercency codes (another shut up and listen essentially) and a code for reporting intel. Not so much visible to the students but a major issue on voicecoms was the reporting of intel (codeword: recon). Agony had about 3 pilots constantly on watch for incoming ships. When in a system with 3 exits, this ment we received intel from those 3 gates, stating how much ships were where, what alliance and such. Other than just visual inspection local channels were checked for pilot spikes (groups entering system) and doing a 360o scan on ships scanners (for scan probes for example). The ship scanner was also used for checking out the state of a jumpgate from beyond visual range (in 5o modus).

After the theory section was over (after 2-3 hours in high/low sec) we went to truesec to find us some kills. Not quite remembering all the details on kills, losses, sequence and such, I leave this to ppl with the writing skills to offer you a juicy report.
I might add another post about bubble warfare later, if noone else chooses to adress it before that, that is.
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