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Offline Warcold

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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2008, 11:23:46 AM »
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Mining
Found this 60-ish page mining guide, going to print and read it today...
http://www.lsjv-eve.com/completeminersguide_v2.2.pdf

I read this and it is a mustread for miners, really!
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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2008, 11:54:37 AM »
Jarkko, mebbe speccing for trade would be something for you? Dunno what you would like best, but selling stuff is the end of the line, so dont think we'll be too reliant on you then. Except mebbe for bying stuff...
Ok :)  Speccing for trade sounds that it needs a bit more than the book for the skill Trade (which I incidently already have bought but haven't began training yet). Need to find a easy-to-read guid on trading :)

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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2008, 12:03:34 PM »
this should be a good place to start: http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g617.asp

you have any opinion on whether to start new corp or join beo's toon?



beo, what you got to offer? what kinda corp is your corp, what kind of ppl you need?
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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2008, 12:09:17 PM »
Hmmm...

"...takes lots of time, *real* time..."

"...a good trader doesn't even have to leave anywhere!"


Err... so I'd be sitting at my base for hours and hours without killing stuff? Sounds like what I do for a living 8 hours a day. Perhaps not what I am looking for in a game, I get to do that in real life enough :P

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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2008, 12:11:44 PM »
I don't have any opinion on the corporation. To be frank, I think I still know too little of this game to have any clue  ;D  For example, is there some negative impact with joining Beo's corp compared to forming a new one? If there isn't, then wouldn't it be smart to take advantage of the structure already built by Beo?

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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2008, 12:34:34 PM »
To me its a difference between
- the exciting experience to find out everything for ourselves (pro), but making mistakes and losing stuff (con)
- having a lot set out for us already (con) but not worry as much (pro) and maybe be able to set out on exciting ventures earlier (pro)

IMO the first option will bind the players together more, because we depend on each other more. This can be pro and con, depending on how things go.
I havent really decided which way I like better yet. But was wondering if you guys would have feelings/opinions about it.
I havent anything against joining Beo (to the contrary, I think its a cool offer of him and can give us a lot of oportunities', but the exciting thing of starting something from scratch also pulls at me.
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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2008, 04:43:05 PM »
My corp has basically always been my alts and myself, so other than being a place to share crap amongst my accounts and so on, there hasnt been a direction tbh :) So joining ML, could see you all exploring corp options as fully as if you start your own; hell theres still roles and titles I am figuring out despite months as a director in another corp as Caradir can testify :)
 
If you chaps do go the way of a new corp (I'll set out how to do that and what skills are required to get you going below) then no problems from me. I promise not to flip your mining cans or scam you all some how :D

As for creating a corp you need the following:

Corporation Management (xx numbers of members per level of the skill)
Ethnic Relations (Allows races other than the corp starter's race to join the corp - x% of corp can be "foriegn" per level of the skill)
1.5 Million Isk.

Also you will most likely need an office somewhere central for your members - really busy systems and the office rent is stupid high (seen some as high as 18million isk a month!) - office isnt the same as HQ, they can be different and iirc you can have hangars at both :)
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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2008, 05:32:30 PM »
As Beo says his corp is basically home for his alts and hasnt had a singular "focus" so we could help give it a direction ;)

we all gain an easier pooling of resources etc, and heck no one needs to train corp management as its already covered.

Constantines skill sets are:

Exploration
Hauling (Badger II as Caldari industrial is at V)
Researcher (currently have agents in Graviton Physics and Caldari Starship Engineering)
Salvaging
Stealth Bomber Pilot (if needed :)  )
mission Runner ( as long as they are easy, as my weapon skills need some work and of Level 1 variety )
Basic Manufacturing/Refining abilities.

Id be willing to give 50 % of my training time to whichever direction corp needs from me (other 50% is going to my weapon skills and learning skills at the mo ;P  )
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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2008, 05:45:53 PM »
I like the option of joining Beo's Corp. I like what I hear of it, and I like the fact that Beo is offering the chance for us to take over his pet (I had in WoW my personal guild, and once I did let other people in it wasn't quite the same anymore, even though the other people in that guild were/are (it still has active members, even though I am the guild leader and haven't logged on for months  :o ) my own kids or my real life friends).


As for roles, I don't know how long my attention span holds, it is notorioiusly short HEY WHAT'S THAT SHINY THINGIE!?!


errr... Anyway, I've always liked, be the game what ever, "survivors". Not necessarily the meanest damage dealers, not the best "healer", not the wealthiest chap. Just the fellow that is the last one standing :P

So, if there is a role for a person who is 101% focused at one thing at any given time, but the thing at focus is prolly quite different one week from now, then *that* is my role. Looking at Caradir's list of interests I do feel quite similar, except for stealth runner I would like to change alpha striker ("hit first, hit hard and get the hell out" could very well be my motto :P) :)

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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2008, 10:48:18 AM »
As a general direction I was thinking of the following:

Stage 1:
Mining & Refining/reprocessing

Stage 2:
Manufacturing & research

Stage 3a:
Moon mining, POS manufacturing

Stage 3b:
0.0 PvP, POS (moon mining, POS manufacturing)

Stage 2 allows us to build ships, eq and ammo - which makes PvP & 0.0 easier.
Stage 3 is really a choice - moving to 0.0 is where the action is and once we have the resources & exp (not to mention the skill training) from Stage 1 & 2 - it'll be an easier move.
0.0 is also where the most profitable mining can be done - but there is a skill lag for "Compressing minerals" - which is where you take the minerals and turn them into items to be moved into empire (space/transport considerations).

In between we can work missions (we should agree on which zone to boost the corp standings), explore, DS complexes,etc  & maybe play the market.



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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2008, 11:48:11 AM »
As a general direction I was thinking of the following:

snip sensible stuff

As an aside, I'm training up a mining alt to come join you guys.
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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2008, 02:45:23 PM »
What does POS mean?

Aside from that, Rub's plan sounds sensible.
Also I'd suggest joining Beo's corp to start with. Sounds like it's just the infrastructure is there at the moment, for free (in terms of skillpoints/assets) - I don't think it'll be too challenging to set this all up ourselves, it'll just take a lot of extra time and money.
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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2008, 03:17:38 PM »
What does POS mean?
Player owned station.

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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2008, 04:49:05 PM »
Regards to access, I'll sort that out for hangars etc as each of you join :)

Anyone who wants the full gamut of roles just let me know and I'll sort that out, that way you can accept apps, give hangar access and so on - its a little trial and error even for me)
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Re: EVE Mining Corp
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2008, 11:48:08 AM »
http://www.fluidorbit.co.uk/

Useful URL for 'where to mine?'