Moon Mining

[Rubino]

Wotcha Guys,

A Moon harvester and silo has been setup at the Z3 POS now for Caesium.
The silo holds 20k m3, Caesium is 0.8 in volume and the harvester yields 100 units/hour
 

    SiloVolume/Caesium Volume
    20000 / 0.8
    = 25000 Caesium/units
      = maxCaesiumHeld/100
      = 250 HarvesterHours
        = HarvesterHours/24
        = 10.41 days
          = TimeToFillSilo
          = 10d 10h

So it'll need emptying every 10 days or so.

[peo]

I can go around emptying it (big work )

[Warcold]

is it (theoretically) possible to set up a 2nd setup at the same pos for mining the titanium?

[Rubino]

Yep

[peo]

I decided to scan the moons a bit, more specifically the ones in k8l that had a ? in dotlan.
The only one that had anything in it was:
K8L-X7 VIII moon 6: Titanium+Silicates.

[Rubino]

Ideally we'd need a Chromium moon - which would unlock 2 simple reactions for us:  Solerium & Titanium Chromide (Titanium can be obtained from the current Moon in Z3).

[peo]

I know.
Hope we find one not occupied then. Going to go scanning in ir- later, lots of for dotlan unknown moons.

[peo]

So far (updated:090408):
IR-WT1: 1:1:Titanium, evaporate deposits
IR-WT1: 3:1:Nothing
IR-WT1: 3:2:Nothing
IR-WT1: 3:3:Nothing
IR-WT1: 3:4:Silicates (2?)
IR-WT1: 3:5:Hydrocarbons
IR-WT1: 3:6:Nothing
IR-WT1: 3:7:Nothing
IR-WT1: 3:8:Nothing
IR-WT1: 3:9:Evaporate deposits (2)
IR-WT1: 3:10:Nothing
IR-WT1: 3:12:Silicates (2), evaporate deposits
IR-WT1: 3:13:Nothing
IR-WT1: 4:1:Silicates, hydrocarbons(2)
IR-WT1: 4:2:Caesium, silicates
IR-WT1: 4:3:Hydrocarbons, evaporate deposits
IR-WT1: 4:4:Nothing
IR-WT1: 4:5:Hydrocarbons
IR-WT1: 4:6:Nothing
IR-WT1: 4:7:Silicates, Evaporate deposits, Atmospheric gasses
IR-WT1: 4:8:Nothing
IR-WT1: 4:9:Nothing
IR-WT1: 4:10:Chromium, Silicates, hydrocarbons
IR-WT1: 4:11:Occupied (unknown content)
IR-WT1: 4:12:Evaporate deposits, silicates(2)
IR-WT1: 4:13:Atmospheric gasses
IR-WT1: 4:14:Evaporate deposits (2)
IR-WT1: 4:15:Nothing
IR-WT1: 5:1:Nothing
IR-WT1: 5:2:Atmospheric gasses
IR-WT1: 5:3:Nothing
IR-WT1: 5:4:Silicates(2), Atmospheric gasses
IR-WT1: 5:5:Silicates(2)
IR-WT1: 5:6:Nothing
IR-WT1: 5:7:Silicates, Hydrocarbons, Evaporate deposits
IR-WT1: 5:8:Titanium
IR-WT1: 5:9:Nothing
IR-WT1: 5:10:Nothing
IR-WT1: 5:11:Nothing
IR-WT1: 5:12:Silicates, Hydrocarbons, Atmospheric gasses
IR-WT1: 5:13:Atmospheric gasses (2)
IR-WT1: 5:14:Hydrocarbons
IR-WT1: 5:15:Nothing
IR-WT1: 5:16:Silicates, Evaporate deposits
IR-WT1: 5:17:Silicates
IR-WT1: 6:1:Nothing
IR-WT1: 6:2:Silicates, Hydrocarbons
IR-WT1: 6:3:Silicates (2), Hydrocarbons
IR-WT1: 6:4:Nothing
IR-WT1: 6:5:Nothing
IR-WT1: 6:6:Evaporate deposits
IR-WT1: 6:7:Nothing
IR-WT1: 6:8:Nothing
IR-WT1: 6:9:Silicates, Evaporate deposits
IR-WT1: 6:10:Titanium

Rubino did some moon scanning in a SoT system where we perhaps can get to set up a pos and mine:
Results were:
4HS-CR: 4:6:Tit, Silicates, Atmospheric gasses
4HS-CR: 4:7:Atmospheric gasses
4HS-CR: 4:9:Evaporate deposits
4HS-CR: 4:10:Atmospheric gasses
4HS-CR: 4:11: (as per dotlan) Atmospheric gasses, Evaporate deposits(2), Platinum [this was unoccupied and would be a decent place for a pos, reacting gasses with deposits and selling platinum should at current prices give about 3.7m/day or a bit over 100m/30days in Jita]
4HS-CR: 9:4: (as per dotlan) Hydrocarbons, Platinum [also unoccupied, would be a second choice]

[peo]

Did some more scanning (results added to the list above) and found a good moon, acctually one good and one decent, namely a chromium moon.
IR-WT1 planet 4 moon 10.
I think our next pos should be at that moon.

[peo]

Trying to look a bit at reactions we can potentially earn money on using the moons we know of or have poses on. It will probably require a few more poses for both reaction and mining.

The simple reactions we can do are: (given a pos on the chromium moon that is)
Solerium (Caesium+Chromium, ~12m isk/day)
Titanium Cromide (Titanium+Chromium,  ~7m isk/day)
Hexite (Chromium+Platinum, ~9.5m isk/day)
Sulfuric Acid (not worth it by itself)
Silicon Diborite (not worth it by itself)
Ceramic Powder (not worth it by itself)
Carbon Polymers (not worth it by itself)

Complex reactions (all of them are based on two parallel reactors ):
Titanium Carbide (Silicon Diborite+Titanium Cromide, ~25m isk/day)
Sylramic Fibers (Ceramic Powder+Hexite, ~22m isk/day)

If we could find a tungsten and/or a cadmium moon the number of reactions would increase significantly. Some of the reactions are of course exclusionary due to the moon mining limit of 100 units/h.

edit: Missed the lower yield per hour of sylramic fibers 6k/h and reactor rather than 10k so have updated with that

[Mangala]

How do I go about emptying these and checking when they need emptying and also once emptied where would the contents need moving?

I ask as I'm able to help out having a hauler at Z and being able to scout just prior to moving stuff anywhere too

[peo]

How do I go about emptying these and checking when they need emptying and also once emptied where would the contents need moving?

I ask as I'm able to help out having a hauler at Z and being able to scout just prior to moving stuff anywhere too

You offline the harvesting array then pick up the stuff in silo and then turn the harvesting array on again.

[peo]

Was the silo that was to be offlined and then onlined not the harvesting array. Emptied the silo just now.

[Mangala]

Thanks for the advice Hrod - and emptying it too

So its every 10 days or so.

* Mangala thinks gogo windows calendar!

[peo]

Yup, about 10 days for the caesium one. It depends on the size of the mineral being mined ofc.
I dumped the minerals in the ore/mins tab at the corp hangar in z30. Didn't know where to put it otherwise.